Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Galen Hutcheson
All,As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, I find myselfwondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of the archives andthe answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5 years or older, Iwas wondering if anyone has any recent or updated advice on what would be neededand what would be desirable?I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press (mine isworn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch setup, metalcutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;Planer or no planer?Tablesaw or no tablesaw?Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!Thanks in advance,--------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: "gcardinal"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tools revistedAll,As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, Ifind myself wondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of thearchives and the answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5years or older, I was wondering if anyone has any recent or updated adviceon what would be needed and what would be desirable?I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press(mine is worn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torchsetup, metal cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;Planer or no planer?Tablesaw or no tablesaw?Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!Thanks in advance,--------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Galen Hutcheson

Original Posted By: panhandler1956 bowens2(at)insight.rr.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: tools revistedTo quote Tim on Tool Time-----it's impossible to have too few power toolsand impossible to have tools too underpowered. Use whatever flimsy excuseyou can to add to your useless and useful tool collection, if your wifeyunderstands the "need" to build a Piete then she'll understand the need forquality plentiful tools. At least in the beginning of the project, lie ifnecessary--- "Dear, you cannot do a proper job with the wrong tool, besidesthey'll be useful around the house"Gordon BowenOriginal Message:-----------------

Original Posted By: "panhandler1956"
1. 4" angle grinder with thin cut-off wheels.2. Belt sander.3. Bench grinder.4. Plywood and wood scraps for making jigs.5. Steel plate and bars for making bending forms.6. Hydraulic press.7. Drill press8. Miter sawOwning these is LESS important than having good access to them.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By:> panhandler1956 bowens2(at)insight.rr.com
Gordon,I agree with your line of thought, why just today I was putting a tile floor inour bathroom (browny points in the bank) and I mentioned to my wife that we really"need" a nice miter saw to install new quarter-round properly - she didn'tbite, but I'll keep trying.gbowen(at)ptialaska.net wrote:> Use whatever flimsy excuse> you can to add to your useless and useful tool collection, if your wifey> understands the "need" to build a Piete then she'll understand the need for> quality plentiful tools. At least in the beginning of the project, lie if> necessary--- "Dear, you cannot do a proper job with the wrong tool, besides> they'll be useful around the house"> Gordon Bowen> > Original Message:> -----------------

Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
warning this should go under the heading of tool porn.www.lie-nielsen.comwww.japanwoodworker. ... y.comorder the catalogs, and drool. :-)michael silviusin sacrborough, maine________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "panhandler1956"
Hi,So far I've just worked on ribs but found the following tools good for thestated reasons.Tablesaw - I bought precut wood but you have to make a rib jig andeventually a table to build the larger parts on. Based on how this projectseems to be unfolding, half the building is building tools, jigs, etc. and atablesaw is really handy for that. You can find them cheap too. I'm notsuggesting you get a cheap tablesaw, watch classifieds, ebay and those kindsof resources. I picked up an older tablesaw with a milled steel table and apowerful motor for 25 bucks. It's very accurate and cuts through oak likebutter (..no, not building an oak Piet)Router table. My plan when I build ribs is to use a flush laminate trimmerbit in my router to trim off the overhanging gussets. With a table it's apiece of cake. So if you get a router, also get or build a router table.The other posts cover everything pretty well.----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
M.Silvius(at)worldnet.att wrote:> warning this should go under the heading of tool porn.> > www.lie-nielsen.com> www.japanwoodworker.com> www.levalley.com> > order the catalogs, and drool. > > > michael silvius> in sacrborough, maineMichael,I ordered the catalogs, but the last link was for a GMC dealer. I do want a newtruck, but I'll have to wait till the Piet is built and I'm partial to Fords!:)Thanks,--------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 23:37:23 -0700

Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
This is what I think I use to build the fuselage. I'm sure it can be done differently and with other tools.This is assuming you buy your wood already dimensioned, i.e. 1x1 1x3/4 ect.Must have:-Good steel/aluminum 6", 12" and 36" ruler-4" - 6" square for laying out parts (I also use a plastic 8" T square all the time)-" to1" Chisels, cheap set from Lows, sharpen with 320 sandpaper on a flat surface. Good for chipping off glue squeeze out.-Calipers and or Micrometer, 0.001 accuracy works well-Wood cutting Band saw (in a pinch a scroll saw)-Hack saw and a strong arm or die grinder with cutoff wheels.-Drill press-Stationary Belt sander or Disk sander-Hand Drill-Reamers for perfect sized holes (I think you only need 3 sizes)-Good Drill bits-Sharpie pens, pencils, band aids-One of the angle measuring thingies. (proper name is sliding bevel).-Good Miter box and saw-C-Clamps, Bar clamps, large binder clips, home made PVC pipe kind ect.-Cut the plywood sides by hand with a smooth hand saw and 8' strait edge made form angle aluminum-Sandpaper-6" bench vice-Books on building planes-Aircraft Spruce catalog, get to know it well.-This listGood to buy if you have the funds:Gas Welder (This is almost a must for most people)Metal Band saw (Buy one, it will be the best $150 bucks you'll ever spend at Harbor Freight, toss the blade it comes with and get a bi-metal blade from Home Depot)Power Miter saw with a good blade, used it a lot but not really necessaryBarrow / use someone else's/ buy one it you really want to (I didn't use it that much)Table sawRouterGas WelderIf your buying raw lumber, i.e. 2x4 1x2 ect:You will, at least, need a table saw. With a good blade and using feather boards you probably don't need a planer and jointer but they would be nice to have.oryou can rip with your band saw but I think you will need to run them through a jointer and planer pr table saw as above.Chris TracySacramento, Ca ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tools revisted

Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
Clif,I found a picture of the tool I was looking for when doing the landing gear legs.It was your site after all.http://www.clifdawson.ca/Pietenpol4.htmlWhat is that tool called and how hard is it to develop dexterity with it? I lookedfor one on Lee Valley and didn't see it but don't know what they're called.Nice pictures on the site!--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:34:19 -0700