Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: update on 41CCCorky is in Souix 'city Iowa on his way to Fargo to get his plane. Isablc________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building

Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Chris,Took your post to heart and went to Home Depot. Got a 45000 BTU, 2 burner, propaneheater for 60 bucks. Immediately put it together and got the shed from 8.6Fto 82F in about 25 minutes on low. Runs on a regular gas grill tank. Theyhave another one that has one burner , 15000 BTUs, for 29 bucks. Once the placeis warmed up I could probably fall back to 1 burner and crack a window. Burns clean and my work shed is warmer than the house! Just curious how longa tank lasts.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:03:09 -0600 (GMT-06:00)

Original Posted By: KMHeide
Jim,That is an excellent idea. I was planning on keeping the window open a littleand opening the door frequently but your suggestion is a more scientific solutionto that guessing game. Thanks--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:50:15 -0800 (PST)

Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Glen,It all depends on how much you have to use it. I cycle mine on and off as I get to cold. My last tank lasted about a month and a half but I used it a lot. Around here a BBQ tank cost $15 to fill. Seems like a cheap way to go for me. Does the instructions have a flow rate in it? You could calculate the hours per tank. It also works better when the tank is full.Your probably right that you could go down to 1 burner to maintain the heat and save cost. I think I will go and see if HD has any here. All you need now is to get your self a bag of marshmallows.Isn't it fun to be hotter then the house. My wife gives me grief because I wont let her keep the house that warm.Chris----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Jim Markle"
I frequently take my digital carbon dioxide detector out in the garage to do air sampling and it never registers anything. I sometimes wonder if the thing is working. I think I will by another one just to test it. Fear of carbon monoxide is one of the reasons I cycle it on and off.My garage is a bit drafty so I'm sure it helps circulate the air. PLEASE everyone listen to Jim and get a carbon dioxide tester and test it for your self.Speaking of Jim, did Jim finally get back to working on his plane?Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Larry Rice

Original Posted By: Michael Fisher
These posts have been pretty interesting to read. I used an electric heater inmy attached insulated garage. Could have bought a new Cessna for what I paidthe utility company. I now have a natural gas furnace. The furnace is 45,000btu and is vented to the outside through a forced air chimney. Even in thegarage with a forced air furnace I have a CO (Carbon Monoxide) detector. Youcan purchase a very reliable CO detector for less than $ 25 at most discountand hardware stores. Seems like very cheap insurance. Click on this link tolearn more... http://www.nfpa.org/itemDetail.asp?cate ... test=1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:31:28 -0800

Original Posted By: "Gene and Tammy"
Well, it was in the mid 60s today, clear and nice, the new brake linings were all cured and full braking effect available, and Charlie took the airplane out of ground effect and into the pattern. Quite different from the slight right wing heaviness in ground effect, he found that in the pattern he had to hold the stick with both hands at one point, hard left aileron, due to excessive wash-in on the starboard wing. But we have plenty of threads on the forward lift strut fork end to make adjustments, so that's next.The engine pulled 2250 RPM in climb with that 72x42 Hegy prop, climbing at 50 MPH. I have not verified the mechanical tach against an optical one, so I'm feeling real good about the engine and prop doing just about as good as you can expect. It runs and sounds strong and smooth.Life is good ;o)Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net_________________________________________________________________FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people you know ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
Congrats Oscar! Pretty exciting. Keep us posted and get some in flight photos you can share with us.Gene----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Jim Markle

Original Posted By: KMHeide

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After the ice storm of 97/98 up here in Ottawa we changed our fire place to a gas style instead of wood burning and at the flick of a switch I have instant heat even if the hydro goes off.Now mind you there won't be any blower from the fire place if the hydro is off but you can get enough heat from it to survive.Sort of like camping out.You just bring your sleeping bags down and sleep in front of the fire place.Nothing to do with Pietenpols but everything to do with survival and carbonmonoxide poisoning.There won't be any danger from this system.>From: Jim Markle >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:03:09 -0600 (GMT-06:00)>>>>I once had one of those Home Depot two burner heaters and a tank lasted >about a day and a half. But I kept it on the highest setting.>>But...after 5 days without electricity last week because of a sever ice >storm in NE OK, I have become EXTREMELY aware of (possible) carbon monoxide >generating heating devices. One of my neighbors and her kids just got out >of the hospital because of carbon monoxide poisoning....>>Please add another $20 to that $60 investment and buy a carbon monoxide >monitor...please...>>JM>>>-----Original Message-----> >From: Glenn Thomas > >Sent: Jan 26, 2007 9:10 PM> >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building> >>> >> >Chris,> >Took your post to heart and went to Home Depot. Got a 45000 BTU, 2 >burner, propane heater for 60 bucks. Immediately put it together and got >the shed from 8.6F to 82F in about 25 minutes on low. Runs on a regular >gas grill tank. They have another one that has one burner , 15000 BTUs, >for 29 bucks. Once the place is warmed up I could probably fall back to 1 >burner and crack a window. Burns clean and my work shed is warmer than the >house! Just curious how long a tank lasts.> >> >--------> >Glenn Thomas> >N?????> >http://www.flyingwood.com> >> >> >> >> >Read this topic online here:> >> >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90744#90744> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
this rig cost me a couple of hundred to set up, mostly the insulated pipe torun through the ceiling. The kit for the barrel stove was about $70, barelrescued from behind the local Catterpillar dealer.fuel is mostly pallate material collected behind big box stores, andconstruction site dumpster diving. 3 yrs and I never had to pay for fuel forit yet.keeps my uninsulated shop in T shirrt conditions till the ouside temps dropbelow zero.then a sweat shirt is all we need.I know in the republic of Kalifornia where you have to get a burn permit fora Hibachy you could not do this but then you likely don need to either.Michael in Maine________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:08:59 -0500

Original Posted By: "Glenn W. Thomas"
heres the one I have:http://www.vogelzang.com/barrel_stoves.htmIf I leave the door open it gets going to fast. too much draft. it is aleaky thing so even with the damper shut she draws real good. Sometimes onreal low wind days if I open the door to soon when its all shut down low itwill belch out a cloud of smoke. But my shop is quite drafty so its not abig deal. Runing it with the door open is not real efficient and runsthrough fuel way to fast.I try to keep the fire in the back 3rd of the barrel and it keeps thingruning nicely without to much belching.michael________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:30:48 -0600 (CST)Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building

Original Posted By: "Glenn W. Thomas"
Glen:Just a bit of sand on the inside of the barrel, couple of 25 lb bags isenough.as you see I also have the cement paver pad under the stove.at first I was concerned but with the sand in the bottom of the barrel theunderside remains completey cool to the touch. so there is no issue at allthere. I also placed he stove so that it is in the corner of the shop andthe stair well comes up around it so it tends do draw cool air in form thegarage bellow.michael----- Original Message -----