Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Jack T. Textor"

Original Posted By: "Steve Ruse"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection holes (wing)Dear Jack,Thanks for your very helpful web site, the pictures help to quickly answer a lot of questions.One thing that may become clearer to us when you get further toward covering your wings and tail feathers is the attachment of the control horns. The plans show an opening of approximately one inch in the horns as well as the available material for the attachment tabs and screw holes support geometry forfastening to a one inch thick beam, yet the spruce beam material indicated inthe plans is 5/8" thick at that point, is it intended that the beam is filledin with a ply shim on each side before attaching the horns? Does anyone have pictures on their web site showing these installed? Also how is the covering material dealt with around these interruptions?And by the way, nice job on the metalwork Jack.Please excuse our ignorance, this old-fangled construction is new to us =)Regards, Chrissi & RandiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================In a message dated 5/26/2008 10:22:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jtextor(at)thepalmergroup.com writes:Finally getting my first wing finished. The plans show a plywood plate with 4 hole beneath the aileron pulley for inspection. For the other inspection holes what does everybody suggest? Should I use plywood plates orinspection rings cut into the fabric? Thanks!Jackwww.textors.com **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?vide ... 0000000002)________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Jack T. Textor
Hey JackI used the nylon inspection rings and am very happy with them. They are very easy to install. As far as installing around control horns, I pre ironed a piece of fabric up to 350 deg. I used the pinking sissors and installed 2 additional patches over the covering. That seems to have worked well.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Gene & Tammy"
Chrissi & Randi wrote-> Thanks for your very helpful web site, the pictures help to quickly answer a> lot of questions.Yes, they do. And one of the most helpful sites is Chris Tracy's nice compendium of photos at http://www.westcoastpiet.com . True enough that you only get thumbnails and you have to open them individually to find what you want, but at least all the pix are in one place. For example, look at Don Emch's and Frank Pavliga's airplanes to see if there are finish details there that help you.>attachment of the control horns>is it intended that the beam is filled in with a ply shim on each side before>attaching the horns? Does anyone have> pictures on their web site showing these installed?I'm sure someone has pix of that. I believe that's how the rudder horn is doneon 41CC, the only such horn I've had actual experience with when I made repairsto it.>Also how is the covering material dealt with around these interruptions?I wondered about that myself, since it would seem that the heat shrinking operation would pull the fabric away from the protruding metal fitting and create a gap. I did somewhat the same as has already been mentioned... preshrink a round or square pinked patch to go over the part where it sticks through, then it won't pull away. You end up just making a slit in the fabric anyway, so it fits fairly tightly around the metal part. Some finish work I've seen is just incredible in spots like that... take a look at where the lift strut fittings come through the wing underside fabric of John Dilatush's "Mountain Piet" (now Craig Bacon's airplane), at http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Joh ... 210018.jpg . He's used a pinked round doubler where the fitting comes through, and I defy you to find any gap around that penetration! Also interesting to note that John installed the rings for inspection covers at the wing drag bracing attachment locations but elected not to cut them in at this time. My guess would be that he also painted a number of inspection hole covers when he painted the wings, so they would match the paint perfectly if the time came to use them. Perfectionist!> Please excuse our ignorance, this old-fangled construction is new to us =)Wait till you get to the part about the empty oatmeal cardboard containers ;o)Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection holes (wing)"Wait till you get to the part about the empty oatmeal cardboard containers ;o)"Oscar, oh great, that will be the one thing we obsess about till we know =)On the road from Osh down to Brodhead right now, I don't expect to post this till returning to Scholler.Regards, ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 5/27/2008 12:56:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, taildrags(at)hotmail.com writes:Wait till you get to the part about the empty oatmeal cardboard containers ;o)**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/ ... 0000000017 )________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT)