Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Skip Gadd"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Love hate ListOkay gang here's the concept,Each of us as owners and builders have a set of things they wished they had done, are glad they did or regret doing as far as the build goes in addition to features or unnecessary modifications.For the rest of us in the building phase it would be great to have the benefit of that regret while consideration improvements, modifications or upgrades.For myself as I contemplate slight design alterations and preconceived improvements it would be nice to get the view point from others that have triedand love their modification or hate it.Anyone interested in sharing or setting up a love hate list and the reason for the builders comments.John**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?vide ... 0000000002)________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: _AMsafetyC(at)aol.com_ (mailto:AMsafetyC(at)aol.com)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Love hate ListWalt,Thanks for the encouragement. Actually I have no idea how it would work or how we can add to it its just a concept for the moment, however I think it should be something that lists the builder, the modification change or alteration, the result, satisfied or not and the why or why not for the dissatisfaction as some may be structural. cosmetic, functionality,performanceand safety of flight.and any other reason imaginable. At Broadhead last year I spoke to builders about the addition of a step, a flop and a forward pit door, none of which were too encouraging and actually cautioned against it. As useless non functional and a waste of time and resources. That being the case I though those type comments from people who havemade the alterations may be helpful in the planning and decision making process for all the builders and owners. Since all I have are the makings of what a fuse should look like I don't have much to regret as of yet and although I planned for a front pit door with support structure I have not cut and at thispoint do not plan on cutting the upper longeron to accommodate a front passenger easier with the possibility of compromising the structural integrityof my ship. Left to my own devices I would consider an ejection seat and jet engine so the trip to get me back on perspective and plan. It is always good toreturn to the origin and cleanse ones self of the worldly baggage of luxury and return to a minimalist concept of purityThose type of considerations may be helpful to other builders that have not the time or benefit to experience Broadhead, Pietenpol Mecca.BTW I am planning a return pilgrimage to Mecca for the 08 JohnIn a message dated 6/9/2008 12:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, waltdak(at)verizon.net writes:John,I think that is a GREAT idea!!Will it be by separate emails,,or a columned list that we somehow add to?Walt EvansNX140DL"Let's Legalize Freedom"----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]"

Original Posted By: shad bell

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]"

Original Posted By: "David Jones"
DavidThe good news is you got some serious build time that you can do almost anywheredepending on your determination and commitment level. I am building in a basement and don't expect to need a hanger for at least anotheryear. So not a real big concern for me at this point eventhough I am on thewaiting listJohnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "MikeD"
ben_ramler2002(at)yahoo.c wrote:> Afternoon Group,> I can't lay wax paper down because that will screw up the glue.If you are not in scrounging mode, small rolls of polyethylene are cheap at HomeDepot or the like, if you use a medium thickness like 3-6 mil it is tough enoughto peel stuck parts and glue from it without trouble.Waxes are indeed soluble in epoxy to some degree, for example waxed paper cupsare a no-no for mixing.--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Love hate List

Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
horzpool(at)goldengate.ne wrote:> Mike> I'm shure many of us are shocked to hear wax paper shouldnt be used under > wing ribs. I have now built 3 sets of wings and havent had any problems, so> far.> Dick N.> ---Now that you've recovered from the shock, for wing ribs I can't see any problemsince any epoxy touching it has nothing to do with the structure anyhow. Butas I said, waxed paper cups such as Dixie bathroom cups (which look temptinglyconvenient for mixing small amounts) should not be used for mixing, as the potentialexists to pick up some wax in the mix. Just a side note to the thread,thought it might be of use to someone.Glad to hear your wings haven't fallen apart so far.. [Wink] Mike--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:11:25 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
I concur with Jack and Mike on the Jenny style gear. Well worth the extra weight.Love the simplicity of being brakeless with a tailskid. Love flying into a busy fly-in without a radio. It is easier to concentrate on traffic and flying.Wish I had a forward step to assist with filling the center-section tank.Love the minimal instrumentation.Hate flying in turbulence.Wish the A-65 motor mount had been extended 4"Love the rudder bar.Love the 3 piece windscreensLove the AeroQuip fuel fittings and 3/8" aluminum fuel line. This is no place to be cheap.Love having Dale Johnson as my building partner. He is a master craftsman.Love the flop.Hate living 45 minutes away from the airport. Just going to shoot a few landings requires a 3 hour block of time.I'm sure I can come up with more...........Greg C. ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Thought I'd add mine too...Love the wire wheelsWish I had built the wood gearLove the extremely simple brakesLove the extremely simple tailwheelLove that, other than a few things like those above, I followed the plansWish I had a Model A on itLove that Continental more, thoughLove the NORDO thingLove KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)Hate the sore butt on long flightsLove the character of the original designLove that I can stop on the way to the airfield and fill my 5 gallon gas can andfly over to visit friends at a local airstrip and fly back and still have fuelleft overAbsolutely love going to the airport before dawn, watching the dew spray up fromthe tires as I run down the strip and causing the first day's sunlight to floodthe cockpit by climbing higher. Sharing the experience and the views withmy daughter makes me love it so much more!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________