Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]"
To:Subject: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?After all this talk of cross country flying, baggage loads, and what planes tobuild, I see that many of you have other planes. I see that the pattern so farleans towards other faster two seater planes. In our family we have learned thatit takes more than one plane to fulfill all of our needs. The Rans is forflying for fun. The Mooney is for traveling. The Piet is for the fun of buildingour own plane. My question is: What other planes do you have and how often do you fly them? Also,those of you that only have two seater planes, do you regret not having aplane that seats more people? My dad has a Mooney M20C. It is currently for sale for money reasons and he onlyuses it 100hrs a year and cant justify the expense. He also has a Rans Coyote II S6ES. We leave the doors off most of the year. Hehas a grass strip at his house and it is a hoot to fly. It gets flown 5-10 hrsa week. The Piet is his project that I do most of the leg work and research on. It is aSky Scout, woodwork done, Subaru EA-81 on the stand with redrive, hoping to getit running in the next couple of weeks, as soon as I find time to finish convertingthe distributor. My plane is going to be a Wagabond. I have a Colt fuse that needs a lot of workand will start on it when the Piet is done or when I get divorced, whichevercomes first. I will be stretching it a little and working the weight and balanceso that I can add a childs seat, similar to the ones used in Cessna 150s, formy son. It will be my everything plane (cross country, pleasure flying, theworks). Jeremy in Dallas. ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:00:29 -0500

Original Posted By: airlion(at)bellsouth.net
To:Subject: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?After all this talk of cross country flying, baggage loads, and what planes tobuild, I see that many of you have other planes. I see that the pattern so farleans towards other faster two seater planes. In our family we have learned thatit takes more than one plane to fulfill all of our needs. The Rans is forflying for fun. The Mooney is for traveling. The Piet is for the fun of buildingour own plane. My question is: What other planes do you have and how often do you fly them? Also,those of you that only have two seater planes, do you regret not having aplane that seats more people? My dad has a Mooney M20C. It is currently for sale for money reasons and he onlyuses it 100hrs a year and can't justify the expense. He also has a Rans Coyote II S6ES. We leave the doors off most of the year. Hehas a grass strip at his house and it is a hoot to fly. It gets flown 5-10 hrsa week. The Piet is his project that I do most of the leg work and research on. It is aSky Scout, woodwork done, Subaru EA-81 on the stand with redrive, hoping to getit running in the next couple of weeks, as soon as I find time to finish convertingthe distributor. My plane is going to be a Wagabond. I have a Colt fuse that needs a lot of workand will start on it when the Piet is done or when I get divorced, whichevercomes first. I will be stretching it a little and working the weight and balanceso that I can add a child's seat, similar to the ones used in Cessna 150s,for my son. It will be my everything plane (cross country, pleasure flying, theworks). Jeremy in Dallas. _________________________________________________or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notifythe senderDansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk- Portuguese________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?> > I have a cessna 140 that I am learning to fly with until the > pietenpol is> done.... My next project will be a WW1 fighter!!! That is what I > reallywant to fly......> > Dave A.> > > -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: outofthebox50(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: adding a baggage compartmentI have a corvair powered piet,and like the others say it likes to fly about 65 to 75 mph. that's at about 2400 rpm you can get 85 or 90 mph out of it but that is pretty much flat out. Randy Bush NX294RB**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?

Original Posted By: "Jeremy Bramall"
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Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

Original Posted By: airlion(at)bellsouth.net
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I have a Cherokee 140. Training on a Seminole and shopping for a 240-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I have a cessna 140 that I am learning to fly with until the pietenpol isdone.... My next project will be a WW1 fighter!!! That is what I reallywant to fly......Dave A.-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
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Original Posted By: Dave Abramson
Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?i am just lurking the list until I get the urge to buy someone's completed project.I probably will not build until I retire and that is a ways away. I havea 1948 Vtail Bonanza. Blue SkiesSteve D----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: airlion(at)bellsouth.net
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Original Posted By: John Hofmann
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Original Posted By:> "Jeremy Bramall"
J3 Cub, NC98872 is a recent addition to the family. Hangared at Hartford, WI.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jun 23, 2008, at 12:51 PM, outofthebox50(at)yahoo.com wrote:>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile>> -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: John Hofmann
From Gardiner Mason (airlion) I fly a cessna 140 for all my xcountry work and for pleasure while I am building my piet. If I am flying to a campout I do not carry any passengersfor camping gear and food takes it all. For that reason a cessna 170 wouldbe my ideal. No back seats for the station wagon. Also I sleep in the 140 with the seatback tilted back. Works fine for my short body. Cheers, Gardiner Mason.John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jun 23, 2008, at 1:11 PM, airlion(at)bellsouth.net wrote:> I fly a cessna 140 for all my xcountry work and for pleasure while > I am b> uilding my piet. If I am flying to a campout I do not carry any > passengers> for camping gear and food takes it all. For that reason a cessna > 170 would> be my ideal. No back seats for the station wagon. Also I sleep in > the 140 > with the seatback tilted back. Works fine for my short body. Cheers, > Gardin> er Mason.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: outofthebox50(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?Glastar for just pure fun. Reasonable speed for trips, but can get into small places. And can take the doors off in the summer. Am working on a RV-7with a friend (don't kick me off the forum) for more speed to travel and acro. Slowly working on the Piet - but work seems to keep getting gin the way.Jon**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Motivating words for builders, Please read! greatcan do poe

Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
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Original Posted By: gcardinal(at)comcast.net
Tesla is most remembered for the Tesla coil, and had a plan to transmit electricityto consumers without wires. It was a failure due to public fear and probablywould have killed a lot of folks. So, to stay on topic here, was your pointthat fear is a great motivator? ...and that you should put a tesla coil nearyour project that shoots lightening up your ### when you stop working formotivation?As for me, I'm more of and Edison fan:)--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Hi Tom,It is burled black walnut. Book matched and they are successive sheets so everyburl in the pilots panel matches a burl in the passenger panel.Dale spent many hours working out most of these details.Greg-------------- Original message --------------

Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"

Original Posted By: H RULE
I am told by the old-timers that taught me to fly that this was theirpreferred method to deter the late night visits by local hot-roddersintending to help them selves to 100 octane from the aircraft sitting in therural unguarded field. Something about a model T coil charged and rigged onto a lift strut provided sufficient fear to act as a deterrent.Michael>> Tesla is most remembered for the Tesla coil, and had a plan to transmitelectricity to consumers without wires. It was a failure due to public fearand probably would have killed a lot of folks. So, to stay on topic here,was your point that fear is a great motivator? ...and that you should put atesla coil near your project that shoots lightening up your ### when youstop working for motivation?>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:52:06 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: John Hofmann
> To:> Subject: WHAT ELSE DO YOU FLY?>>> After all this talk of cross country flying, baggage loads, and what > planes to build, I see that many of you have other planes. I see > that the pattern so far leans towards other faster two seater > planes. In our family we have learned that it takes more than one > plane to fulfill all of our needs. The Rans is for flying for fun. > The Mooney is for traveling. The Piet is for the fun of building > our own plane.>> My question is: What other planes do you have and how often do you > fly them? Also, those of you that only have two seater planes, do > you regret not having a plane that seats more people?>> My dad has a Mooney M20C. It is currently for sale for money > reasons and he only uses it 100hrs a year and can=92t justify the > expense.> He also has a Rans Coyote II S6ES. We leave the doors off most of > the year. He has a grass strip at his house and it is a hoot to > fly. It gets flown 5-10 hrs a week.> The Piet is his project that I do most of the leg work and research > on. It is a Sky Scout, woodwork done, Subaru EA-81 on the stand > with redrive, hoping to get it running in the next couple of weeks, > as soon as I find time to finish converting the distributor.>> My plane is going to be a Wagabond. I have a Colt fuse that needs a > lot of work and will start on it when the Piet is done or when I get > divorced, whichever comes first. I will be stretching it a little > and working the weight and balance so that I can add a child=92s seat, > similar to the ones used in Cessna 150s, for my son. It will be my > everything plane (cross country, pleasure flying, the works).>> Jeremy in Dallas.>>________________________________________________________________________________