Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
The front seat in 41CC failed due to the nose-over, in a peculiar way. Forwardimpact by the pilot's feet jammed the seat forward and separated some of thejoints. When I rebuilt the front seat, I found much the same thing as you guys...the glaring need for some uprights to support the ends of the seat pieces.Since getting into the front cockpit almost invariably involves standing onthe front seat, those little uprights are really needed. It's amazing what acouple of 4" long pieces of wood will do.Picture of my seat framing is at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/seat.html, second photo from the bottom, and if you're a Piet purist, save yourself a rise in blood pressure and don't look because my seat is a departure from plans. Oh, and you'll also notice in the picture that 41CC has the tailwheel steering cables run all the way from rudder bar to the tailwheel, as per plans.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: front seat repairsOscar,The best part of your seat repair was without a doubt the notation you put on the back. Without His blessings we would all be in trouble. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips andcalculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
I saw in the plans that there was no support for the rear of the seat, and I think it is one of those points where the plans are incomplete. My correction for the plans looks exactly like your fix, I added the two uprights on the sides, as they should be. I also added a "saddle gusset" to the rear of the center brace. I took a number of photos of the seat, but I am on the raod now. I will attach some photos of my fix for the seat when I get home.Gene ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Here is my installation of the front seat.I've never posted a picturebefore.hope it's not stripped!Front seat rear support. After seeing Oscar's pictures, I think I will addanother support to carry the sides.But I did add gussets on the sides and center to help distribute the 'load.'Front supports are wide enough to help carry load.Note: Gussets.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, working on fuselage(11 ribs down.)----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Jim

Original Posted By:> Ben Charvet
The attaches shows my front seat. The side rails are hardwood, hickory Ithink. The uprights are flared at the top so the side rails actually sit onthem, and there are double front and back end rails to give extra supportto the ply seat bottom. I left out the middle support since I had all theextra beef-up.Skip> [Original Message]

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
I'm one step ahead of you Rick ;o)----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Skip Gadd"
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: front seat repairs>>> Oscar, >> Enjoyed looking at your description of your front seat. I got a chance > to look at mine this afternoon. I've just started covering my tail > surfaces, and have the fuselage nearly ready to cover. I'm sure I built > my front seat to the plans, but as built it sure looks like it could > fail as the originator of this string described. I have cut-outs > similar to yours to give access to the rudder bar. Think I might need > to reinforce a little here, although I'm a long way from taking > passengers. Really liked your note on the seat bottom!>> Ben Charvet> Mims, Fl> Oscar Zuniga wrote:> >> >> > The front seat in 41CC failed due to the nose-over, in a peculiar way. >>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Gene Hubbard
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: front seat repairs> >> bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net>> >> > Oscar,> >> > Enjoyed looking at your description of your front seat. I got a chance> > to look at mine this afternoon. I've just started covering my tail> > surfaces, and have the fuselage nearly ready to cover. I'm sure I built> > my front seat to the plans, but as built it sure looks like it could> > fail as the originator of this string described. I have cut-outs> > similar to yours to give access to the rudder bar. Think I might need> > to reinforce a little here, although I'm a long way from taking> > passengers. Really liked your note on the seat bottom!> >> > Ben Charvet> > Mims, Fl> > Oscar Zuniga wrote:> > > >> > >> > > The front seat in 41CC failed due to the nose-over, in a peculiar way.> >> >> >> >> >>>-- Rick HollandCastle Rock, Colorado________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:46:49 -0700