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Pietenpol-List: alternative shelter/lower cost

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:42 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"

Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:22 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: glennthomas(at)flyingwood.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soonHello all,I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool"method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is toat some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:22 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soonHello all,I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a = very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. &nbs= p;My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some= nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of puttingall of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as w= ho might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.____________________________________ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di= 100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid= =emlcntnew00000002">Try it out! _http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List_ (mip://0522f2c8/3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List") (mip://0522f2c8/3D"http://forums.matronics.com") _http://www.matronics.com/contribution_ (mip://0522f2c8/3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution") ============ **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)________________________________________________________________________________

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:34 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:42 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soonDan,Sign me up, I doubt I will ever venture into that aspect of building however, one never knows do one ? The seeing it and learning about it is certainlyworth the price of admission plus it makes a nice addition to my DVD collection of builders and tipsters in action.Just a fan of the craft!John RecineIn a message dated 10/16/2008 10:35:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glennthomas(at)flyingwood.com writes:I'd like one. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ____________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:20 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soonCount me in!Bob HasselSanta Fe, NMHello all,I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool"method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is toat some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002">Try it out! 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Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

> Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:53 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: bob(at)cozyworld.net
I would be interested...Ed Grentzer Do not archive>From: HelsperSew(at)aol.com>Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:14 EDT>>Hello all,>>I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about>making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power > Tool">method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed>essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is >to at>some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee>(to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete>information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who >might>possibly be interested in getting one of these.>>Dan Helsper>Poplar Grove, IL.>>**************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your >destination.>Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out>(http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)________________________________________________________________________________

Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:20 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: outofthebox50(at)yahoo.com
Count me in!Bob HasselSanta Fe, NM=C2-Hello all,=C2-I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool"=C2-method of=C2- prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. =C2-My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. =C2-Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002">Try it out! ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:42 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:11 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: bob(at)cozyworld.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soonWell since I was an early responder this morning, I am going to check my mail just as soon as I get home and see if mine has arrived.I am certain it must be there by now! And I know Dan would not let me down, he hasn't yet, no reason to think he would now.JohnIn a message dated 10/16/2008 4:42:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, outofthebox50(at)yahoo.com writes:Count me in too.Jeremy in DallasSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile-----Original Message-----

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:17 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gardiner Mason"
I'd sure like one! You should be very proud of your work!!! I'd really wantto pay for you trouble.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9084#209084________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:34 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Chet's Mail"
Me too! Dan Wilson - Austin, MNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9228#209228//mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________

Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:43 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: bob(at)cozyworld.net
I am interested also, Gardiner Mason ----- Original Message -----

Pietenpol-List: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:34 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Me too! Dan Wilson - Austin, MNRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9228#209228________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:59:39 -0700 (PDT)

Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:09 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Please add me to the listChet HartleyHolts Summit, MO ----- Original Message -----

Pietenpol-List: Re: alternative shelter/lower cost

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:27 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Tom Anderson"
Oscar,Could you comment please on the flight characteristics of a Piet vs. a typicaltrike? I figure since your brother has one, you'd be well educated on the differences.Things I'd like to know are: how do they compare flying in turbulence, their loadcapacity, handling, landing/takeoff distances, glide ratio, etc.. I'm going to buy or build one or the other (a Piet or a trike) and intend to tailormy training around the aircraft itself. Thus, I'm not interested in learingto fly 3-axis planes if I'm going to end up with a weight-shift trike andvice-versa.PM me if you wish.Thanks,Tom--------Location: Wilson, NCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: alternative shelter/lower cost

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:30 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
Thanks for passing this along Walt and Mike.--------Location: Wilson, NCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> Re: Pietenpol-List: alternative shel

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Reading the many options and costs of hangars makes me want to interject my own opinion on the subject. Having been in the sport for thirty years I've come to notice that the guys who seem the most concerned on maintaining the appearance and structure of their aircraft at an economical balance use door-less T-hangars of some variety or other. Truly the three elements we want to avoid coming in contact with our aircraft are precipitation=2C UV and heavy wind. The secondary items (mice=2C birds=2C thieves etc) don't seem to care whether there is a door in front of your aircraft or not. The big down-side to a hermetically sealed hangar with a door (along with higher cost and possible difficulty of operation) is that it is very difficult to adequately ventilate in the summertime which can expose your pride and joy to temperatures well above ambient for many hours at a time. An airplane in an open T-Hangar remains the driest as well as coolest. Not just the cheapest solution but also the most available in the country and the easiest to build. I keep my Stinson 108 in a T-Hanger in Southern Ontario. It is tied down and chalked. I sleep well during snow and thunderstorms (even hail). I have a nose cover and pre-heater for winter ops and my annual hangar cost is $2100.00 Canadian. (one third of this cost is paid for in my reduced hull insurance). The time and expense to recover a fabric aircraft that has been exposed to the elements is equivalent to five years of hangar rent. I justify the cost because I feel my airplane will last indefinitely since it isn't exposed to the elements. Just another opinion. Keep building and flying.Scott KnowltonBurlington OntarioSlow Piet Builder pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: alternative shelthlink.net>> > When I was in Illinois=2C supply and demand had driven hangar rents to be quite expensive (relative to what I was paying in Florida). One of the seemingly popular solutions for the farm strips was a clamshell hangar. They're corrugated metal over a t-shaped structure. IIRC=2C there was a foot or two of open air along the bottom edge=3B the siding didn't go all the way to the ground (Although I guess it could). One part of the structure hinged up to get the plane in and out.> > > Jim > > -----Original Message-----> >From: "Cuy=2C Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" > >Sent: Oct 16=2C 2008 7:42 AM> >To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: alternative shelter/lower cost > >> >http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineered-structures/> > > > > > > >These are impressive for the cost alternatives to hangaring or the> >costly effects leaving your plane tied down outside. > > > >Don't you have something very similar to this in NJ Walt Evans and> >you've had good things to say about it ?> > > >A friend in KY has a Grumman and Corby stored in one of these structures> >on his farmstrip and he's also had> >good things to say about it INCLUDING the phenomenally MINIMAL damage to> >his planes (virtually none to the Starlet)> >after the remnants of Hurricane Ike roared thru. His Grumman had some> >horizontal stab damage but nothing like> >his buddies had in actual airport hangars that collapsed---crushing many> >planes in the state of KY. These shelters> >appear to be a decent low-cost option if it works for your situation. > > > >Mike C. > > =============> > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________