Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Corvair BuyAfter several months of searching Ive finally found my engine. Actually, I amrequired to buy an entire car for the core, but Im willing to do that in thisparticular case. Ive scoured Craigslist, e-bay, local salvage yards and classified ads, etc. forseveral months, and while Ive been able to weed out several from the descriptionalone, Ive also done a bit of traveling in order to investigate some leads.None so far have panned out, until last Thursday my son and I were drivinghome from the gun club when we saw a small fenced in area in a little Oklahomatown that had 7 or 8 old cars and trucks inside. At first glance it looked likemany other small salvage lots in this particular town, but in the corner ofthe yard sat a late model Corvair that caught my eye. We turned around andhad a look. The vehicle was actually in pretty decent shape compared to someothers Ive looked at not drivable, but certainly a good candidate for restoration.The gate was locked, so I jotted down the number and called the fellow thenext day. He invited me out to have a look. One look at the back of the car and I saw the "110" emblem... I asked "what year"and he said "sixty-six." We opened the hood and everything was in place aircleaner, carb, shrouds even the factory spare tire with knobs it had never evenseen the street. I hope that means that the car was fairly well maintainedor has very low miles (I forgot to look). I asked, "you mind if I turn thecrank?" as I pulled out my 3/4 wrench... he said, "go right ahead." It turnedeasily. A light scrape with the box end of the wrench to remove the dirt aroundthe serial number revealed xxxxxRH gigidy gigidy GIG-GA-TY! I asked if he would be willing to part it out and he said no so I asked what hehad to have for the whole car he replied, "$500." I told him that Id have tothink about it for a bit but in the back of my mind I was actually thinking excellentSmithers. I called him back today an asked if he could take $350 for the whole car he said,"I could, but Im not going to I think its worth what Im asking if Im patient."I think he is right Ive seen worse projects go for more around here. Heoffered to take $50 off and I accepted. The car is in good shape, and there isa decent Corvair following in the Tulsa area, so Im thinking that I can partsome of it out in order to recover some of the expense. Either way I could spend several more weeks or months searching for another suitablecandidate, which I may or may not find for less money, but my time is worthsomething, so Im willing to put this task to bed for a little extra expenseup front. Plus it is local... no shipping or freight fees, and Ill be gladto have a cherry, untouched, complete, 66 110HP RH in the shop.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:02:25 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Corvair BuyAfter several months of searching Ive finally found my engine. Actually,I am required to buy an entire car for the core, but Im willing to dothat in this particular case.Ive scoured Craigslist, e-bay, local salvage yards and classified ads,etc. for several months, and while Ive been able to weed out several fromthe description alone, Ive also done a bit of traveling in order toinvestigate some leads. None so far have panned out, until last Thursdaymy son and I were driving home from the gun club when we saw a small fencedin area in a little Oklahoma town that had 7 or 8 old cars and trucksinside. At first glance it looked like many other small salvage lots inthis particular town, but in the corner of the yard sat a late model Corvairthat caught my eye. We turned around and had a look. The vehicle wasactually in pretty decent shape compared to some others Ive looked atnot drivable, but certainly a good candidate for restoration. The gate waslocked, so I jotted down the number and called the fellow the next day. Heinvited me out to have a look.One look at the back of the car and I saw the "110" emblem... I asked "whatyear" and he said "sixty-six." We opened the hood and everything was inplace air cleaner, carb, shrouds even the factory spare tire withknobs it had never even seen the street. I hope that means that the carwas fairly well maintained or has very low miles (I forgot to look). Iasked, "you mind if I turn the crank?" as I pulled out my 3/4 wrench...he said, "go right ahead." It turned easily. A light scrape with the boxend of the wrench to remove the dirt around the serial number revealedxxxxxRH gigidy gigidy GIG-GA-TY!I asked if he would be willing to part it out and he said no so I askedwhat he had to have for the whole car he replied, "$500." I told himthat Id have to think about it for a bit but in the back of my mind Iwas actually thinking excellent Smithers.I called him back today an asked if he could take $350 for the whole carhe said, "I could, but Im not going to I think its worth what Imasking if Im patient." I think he is right Ive seen worse projectsgo for more around here. He offered to take $50 off and I accepted. Thecar is in good shape, and there is a decent Corvair following in the Tulsaarea, so Im thinking that I can part some of it out in order to recoversome of the expense.Either way I could spend several more weeks or months searching foranother suitable candidate, which I may or may not find for less money, butmy time is worth something, so Im willing to put this task to bed for alittle extra expense up front. Plus it is local... no shipping or freightfees, and Ill be glad to have a cherry, untouched, complete, 66 110HP RHin the shop.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Corvair Buy

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Usually, one can find a photo of almost anything Piet-related on Chris Tracy's great website westcoastpiet.com. And this is no exception. These photos show Jack's nice engine-turned panels. http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Jac ... rument.jpg http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Jac ... 050059.JPG Bill C. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
After several months of searching Ive finally found my engine. Actually, I amrequired to buy an entire car for the core, but Im willing to do that in thisparticular case. Ive scoured Craigslist, e-bay, local salvage yards and classified ads, etc. forseveral months, and while Ive been able to weed out several from the descriptionalone, Ive also done a bit of traveling in order to investigate some leads.None so far have panned out, until last Thursday my son and I were drivinghome from the gun club when we saw a small fenced in area in a little Oklahomatown that had 7 or 8 old cars and trucks inside. At first glance it looked likemany other small salvage lots in this particular town, but in the corner ofthe yard sat a late model Corvair that caught my eye. We turned around andhad a look. The vehicle was actually in pretty decent shape compared to someothers Ive looked at not drivable, but certainly a good candidate for restoration.The gate was locked, so I jotted down the number and called the fellow thenext day. He invited me out to have a look. One look at the back of the car and I saw the "110" emblem... I asked "what year"and he said "sixty-six." We opened the hood and everything was in place aircleaner, carb, shrouds even the factory spare tire with knobs it had never evenseen the street. I hope that means that the car was fairly well maintainedor has very low miles (I forgot to look). I asked, "you mind if I turn thecrank?" as I pulled out my 3/4 wrench... he said, "go right ahead." It turnedeasily. A light scrape with the box end of the wrench to remove the dirt aroundthe serial number revealed xxxxxRH gigidy gigidy GIG-GA-TY! I asked if he would be willing to part it out and he said no so I asked what hehad to have for the whole car he replied, "$500." I told him that Id have tothink about it for a bit but in the back of my mind I was actually thinking excellentSmithers. I called him back today an asked if he could take $350 for the whole car he said,"I could, but Im not going to I think its worth what Im asking if Im patient."I think he is right Ive seen worse projects go for more around here. Heoffered to take $50 off and I accepted. The car is in good shape, and there isa decent Corvair following in the Tulsa area, so Im thinking that I can partsome of it out in order to recover some of the expense. Either way I could spend several more weeks or months searching for another suitablecandidate, which I may or may not find for less money, but my time is worthsomething, so Im willing to put this task to bed for a little extra expenseup front. Plus it is local... no shipping or freight fees, and Ill be gladto have a cherry, untouched, complete, 66 110HP RH in the shop.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:50:23 -0500

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I've tried to send it Mark, but there are a couple of photos and it totals1.5 Mbytes so it probably won't make it through. If not, I'll send it justto you.Jack-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Its about finding exactly what you're looking for and less about the price. Gooddeals and gimmies are hard to come by. It may be fun to try starting it up beforetearing it out and downJohnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: shad bell

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
TRUE! I would see if I could start it up too, just to see if the engineWOULD run!Dave-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Jim
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another Corvair Buybe sure to pull the distributor, and at least spin the oil pump first if it has been sitting a while. No need to run it dry!Boyce________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:11:52 +0000 (GMT)

Original Posted By: RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
Thanks guys! I feel even better about my choice. Starting it up before tearingdown sounds like fun too. Since my hanger is not climate controlled, but my garage is... I'm not planningto tear into the rebuild until it gets cold out. I may go ahead and get it pulled,place it on a pallet, etc. but I'm saving most of that project for themonths when T-88 doesn't mix well.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Subject: Pietenpol-List: panel ideasI like this one myself..... Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:43:35 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another Corvair Buy

Original Posted By: shad bell
Gee Mikee, can't understand why....KipOn Jun 18, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote:> I like this one myself.....>> Mike C.>>> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another Corvair BuyGood points Shad. For airplane use, you really don't stand to gain anything/much by running it, as I assume this will be a thorough overhaul beforeflight. Still, it would be fun though huh?Boyce________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:05:32 -0400

Original Posted By: Jim

Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
[quote="RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com"]Good points Shad. For airplane use, you really don'tstand to gain anything/much by running it, as I assume this will be a thoroughoverhaul before flight. Still, it would be fun though huh? Boyce> Now that these points are made, I've got to agree with the comments about not runningit. Dang you guys for taking all the fun out... and for saving me $$ onunnecessary repairs. [Laughing] It would be fun though. To answer a question... yes, there will be a thorough rebuild prior to use.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Corvair Buy

Original Posted By: Mark Chunard
Since I suggested it and have dealt with junk yards in the past. There is a strategyin buying from them;: if it has a good body either the owner died or theengine and trans did. For my own I would want to know that going in. When thebody has been hit in the rear as corvair one can anticipate broken engine partsif hit in the front and an insurance total engine was good and running whichis a good sign. So getting it to run does tell a great deal about it and recommendedas it provides a base line from which to approach the tear down and rebuildprocess. Always nice to know the cracker jack box has a prize in it. JohnJohn------Original Message------

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
I have a friend in Wyoming that has a Corvair engine he bought on speculation andtore down and cleaned up and put away.he also has a Wynn manual to build oneup-he will never do anything with it I'm sure and is planning a move to Oklahomathis year.if anybody wants to talk to him about it-e-mail me and I'll forwardit to him. Raymond. rhano(at)att.netRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By:> Mark Chunard
I would have to respectfully disagree, and concur with Shad and Jeff in saying that I don't think there is any good that can come from attempting to get your core motor running. It might be a different story if you needed to try to get it running to determine how extensive of a rebuild you want to undertake. In this case though, you already know that you will be completely disasembling the entire engine and inspecting, reworking, overhauling, or replacing every part. Why run it and risk damaging or destroying any parts?You've done your due diligence in picking your core. Finding a motor in a car means it hasn't been laying outside with exposed carbs or intakes to collect rainwater in the heads (assuming it had the "lid" closed). You verified the year, HP, and block code. And you made sure it turned over by hand. That information gives you the best chance of having a usable core for the aircraft conversion. Attempting to run it does not.Have fun tearing it down when you get to that point. We took apart 3.5 engines in the process of collecting all of the parts we needed. It's plenty of good, messy fun!RyanSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 18, 2009, at 6:24 PM, amsafetyc(at)aol.com wrote:>> Since I suggested it and have dealt with junk yards in the past. > There is a strategy in buying from them;: if it has a good body > either the owner died or the engine and trans did. For my own I > would want to know that going in. When the body has been hit in the > rear as corvair one can anticipate broken engine parts if hit in the > front and an insurance total engine was good and running which is a > good sign. So getting it to run does tell a great deal about it and > recommended as it provides a base line from which to approach the > tear down and rebuild process.>> Always nice to know the cracker jack box has a prize in it.>> John>> John> ------Original Message------

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all,>>>>>> Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare?>>>>>> Douwe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Corvair Buy

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all,>>>>>> Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare?>>>>>> Douwe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paintDate: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:05:55 -0400

Original Posted By: Jim
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint>>> >>>> Hello all,>>>> Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare?>>>> Douwe>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:15:50 +0000 (GMT)

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint>>> >>>> Hello all,>>>> Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare?>>>> Douwe>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________