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Pietenpol-List: engine mount washers
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:14 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steve Ruse
As long as you people are tossing famous quotes out there,here's mine: "Where are we going? And what's with thishandbasket?"I was getting ready to order some new engine mount bolts forthe A75 and came across some info regarding the large flatwashers that bear against the conical rubber mounts. Therewere AN970s on the mount before but I notice that they aretoo thin to remain flat under load and they show somecupping where the nut was bearing against them. Must be fromall the G's that I've been pulling ;o) The officialway to do it is with the "special" Teledyne Continentalengine mount washers but those puppies are almost $10 apiece!I assume I can use any thick, flat washer for this duty soI'm going to look at grade 8 fender washers or anything thatis about 1/8" thick unless somebody has found something elsethat works well here. Ideas? Thanks.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCsoon to be A75 poweredSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:16:31 -0400
RE: Pietenpol-List: engine mount washers
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:33 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: engine mount washersOscar-- I used hardware store thicker fender washers (anodized) and they workedfine. Also used extras on the left and upper mounts to give me some right thrust anddownthrust. I couldn't bring myself to build in all that downwash he calls for on his Continentalmotormount drawing but made up for it a bit by washering the engine down a bit. ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Building with wood question
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:53 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Building with wood questionCertainly my recommendation also. I am building in poplar and for $79.00 I got 2 poplar planks S3 1x12" X 12' which when ripped on my table saw provided enough sticks to build the entire fuse structure. So I had cash to purchase more tools and other needed items. like my miter saw, probably my mostfavorite shop tool, indispensable and you don't have to build a bunch of gigs to get the angles you need. I bought all Ryobi tools on sale at the big Orange box store so again trying to make my cash go as far as possible, FYI I am building in the basement so no room or money to spare.I did the same thing with my spars and got them in 16' X 5 qtr rough 10" wide , they couldn't be put through the planer or jointer due to the length cut down and routed to size which is where the router cam in really handyNow you have to remember my bench is made from an old Library table 10' long and an old door I had in the basement covered with 3/4 particle board end to end for my little more than 16'. So you don't have to spend a fortune on wood if you can improvise in all your work area and the approach. Every dollar you save in one area is another dollar you can reallocate to another piece or part that you are forced to purchase. Cant say I have any regrets so far and really like working with the poplar, takes the glue really well and doesn't split out or splinter as easily as other woods, clear strong and inexpensive to work with, you got to love thatJohn**************Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! bleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215910283%3B38350812%3Ba)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Mark Roberts
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:29 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mark RobertsSo Mark are you retired or do you just have an abundance of energy and time ?Congratulations on ordering your plans.One thing I always, always, strongly advise is to get the complete book set from EAA that Tony Bingelis wrote.There are four books and if you were locked in a phone booth with those books you would never need to logonto a list or consult anyone during the construction of your airplane.I heard so much mis-information or old wives tales when building my Piet that whenever I went on to anothersection of my plane I always read up on it FIRST in the Tony Bingelis books---and the truth is always found therewith multiple ways and cost levels of approaching a task. Those books were invaluable to making my plane withoutdoubts in my head about acceptable materials, hardware, fabrics, cables, glue, you name it.
http://shop.eaa.org/html/publications_h ... l?cart_id= Then scroll downTony Bingelis BooksEnginesA treasure of information for all aircraft builders, restorers and mechanics. Here are all the right answers at your fingertips. (224 pages)Qty F15691 Book $27.99*[cid:image001.gif(at)01C9F598.E8382EC0]________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:54:52 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mark Roberts
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:55 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: shad bell
Re: Pietenpol-List: Mark Roberts
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:30 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Mark RobertsThat was kind of Mike Groah to refer to my Piet but I can't take total credit formanyof the modifications since some of them simply came from other builders who hadcomebefore me. I took what I liked best in other Piets I saw and then added a fewof myown ideas. One idea that I REALLY liked was raising the turtle deck and instrument panelsby 1" higherthan plans. I like the look of the turtledeck better-- more rounded and thenthere is moreroom for instruments in the back panel and the windscreen's are a tad higher. I fully understand being compulsive and enthused at the beginnings of a projectand it reallyis a neat little airplane-- you just make me envious of your energy and enthusiasmto learn. Now go take your medicine

) Mike C. in Ohio ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:59:33 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Mark Roberts
Pietenpol-List: Re: Mark Roberts
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:19 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: shad bell
I know the feeling Mark... I'm torn between several parts of my Piet build rightnow. I am tearing down an engine, putting the finishing touches on wing ribsand preparing the shop for a wood delivery, not to mention all the reading material(books, manuals and this site, where I usually camp during the work day).It is all so fun and rewarding... just not enough hours in the day.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:24:02 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: engine mount washers
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:02 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Howdy, low 'n' slow fliers-I think I've found the answer for extra-thick fender washersfor the engine mount bolts on my Cont. A75 (same as for othersmall Continentals). I bought a pack of ten steel washersfor 3/8" bolts, black oxide finish, 1/8" thick, from McMasterCarr. Twelve bucks for ten washers. Item No. 92140A118. Wayless money than the "for real" TCM parts.I'll let you know how they work out but they should be fine.Meanwhile, I stripped out the threads on one of the rockercover mounting screws when reinstalling the cooling eyebrowsand I've got to fix that. Grrr-!!! I just want to get backin the air!!! Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC, A75 hung and A65 soldSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead or bust
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:19 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jim"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead or bustooikkkk-----Original Message-----