Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: John Hofmann
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot Flight Review questionYou are a private pilot who's third class medical has lapsed but continues toexercise flight privileges in the light sport/ sport pilot category regulations.Can this person take a flight review in a non-light sport aircraft with a CFI ?________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB"
My answer is yes, because you have been trained to a different standard than a sport pilot only license. For instance, unlike a sport pilot, those of us with tailwheel endorsements, while exercising our privileges as a Sport Pilot, can fly any conventional gear aircraft that meet the LS specifications which include Cubs, Taylorcrafts, Pietenpols and Champs plus others. An LSA only pilot must have an endorsement for each aircraft type. In a flight review, you will be doing at the PP standard and not LS standard as that is your training. Or you could come on up here, and fly my Cub for your review.Just one idiot's opinion.John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Sep 10, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote:> You are a private pilot who=92s third class medical has lapsed but > continues to> exercise flight privileges in the light sport/ sport pilot category > regulations.>> Can this person take a flight review in a non-light sport aircraft > with a CFI ?>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: totally non-Pietenpol relatedMike, I would like to give you closure on this issue but I am unable to tell youwhat a G3 is since I feel disenfranchised when new words are used. However,you should cheer up, I would bet that you know what both Viagra and Cialis areused for! :+}In Iraq, we caught a young soldier with 2000 viagra pills and a bunch of Pornography.He was disciplined but not after we explained the dangers of those twoproducts when combined. His real punishment was the ribbing his squad gave himfor the last half of the tour.Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sport pilot Flight Review question

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Hey Mike...It worked for me. I guess I never thought about it. I just figured I couldn'tfly solo in the Decathalon that I did it in. Don EmchRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot Flight Review questionI think Mike's question is really "Can I do my Sport Pilot checkride in a non LSA?"For example, in a Cessna 172.Blue Skies,Steve D________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot Flight Review question>I think Mike's question is really "Can I do my Sport Pilot checkride in>a non LSA?" For example, in a Cessna 172.Technically I'm asking about a flight review (BFR in the old days), not a checkridefor a Sport Pilot rating but yes you've got the gist of my question -- do you needa valid medical to get a flight reviewin anything other than a Light Sport a/c. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3G and sport pilotGood answers guys-thank you all.Thanks for your offer to fly your Cub John ! I've actually taken my flight review in my Pietenpol with a CFI upfront. When I hit my wake in a 360 degree turn he said "that's good enough for me". (no instruments in the front sohe couldn't really tell if I lost or gained any altitude in the turn-which is the object.Mike C.PS-then I had one guy one time, a lonnnnnnng time ago sign me off for a BFR after I took him for a ride in our oldChamp. It was at an airport picnic and I was the designated pilot giving rides as everyone else was having beer.The ink wasn't even dry in my logbook when the CFI's wife (who had about 4 beers by then already) told me thatshe now had enough nerve to go for a ride. I had done spins and loops with any passenger who said they wantedto go thru them so while we were up I asked this lady if she wanted to do a spin and loop and she said 'absolutely-yes !"When I landed the CFI said, "cripe sakes, the ink isn't even dry in your logbook and you're already breaking FAR's."Later he said "thank you" as I guess his wife thanked HIM later that night for taking her to the "dumb airport picnic hewas going to."________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:36:54 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot Flight Review question

Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Decathlon flight reviewThat's good to hear Don--excellent. Did you go see John Dye at Salem Air Park?That's who I went to in their Citabria, summer 2008 for my review but my medicalwas enforce then. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:42:13 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot Flight Review question

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
That is a different question. He does not need a Sport Pilot checkride as he is already a Private Pilot (or so he sez). He can fly a 172 for a flight review without the medical if a CFI is in and considered PIC. A Sport Pilot candidate must use get the checkride in the category of LS eligible aircraft which he is going to be operating, which leaves the 172 out.John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Sep 10, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB wrote:> NGB" >> I think Mike's question is really "Can I do my Sport Pilot checkride > in a non LSA?" For example, in a Cessna 172.>> Blue Skies,> Steve D>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:47:31 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport pilot Flight Review question

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
The answer is no you don't. Here it is from EAA: "A flight review can be taken in any aircraft for which you are rated (i.e., any single engine land airplane if you have an Airplane- SEL category/class rating on your pilot certificate). However, without an FAA medical certificate, you will not be authorized to act as pilot in command (PIC) of an aircraft that does not meet the definition of a LSA. This means the CFI will need to act as PIC during the flight portion of the flight review. Make sure the CFI is aware of this situation before you begin the flight review."John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Sep 10, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote:> [ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" >>> I think Mike's question is really "Can I do my Sport Pilot >> checkride in>> a non LSA?" For example, in a Cessna 172.>>> Technically I'm asking about a flight review (BFR in the old days), > not a checkride> for a Sport Pilot rating but yes you've got the gist of my question > -- do you need a valid medical to get a flight review> in anything other than a Light Sport a/c.>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: totally non-Pietenpol related

Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
3G or 3rd Generation (aka International Mobile Telecommunications-2000) is a highspeed standard set for mobile communications. Far more efficient than 2G series(2.5, 2.75, etc.)... it makes much more efficient use of the wireless spectrum.It also allows me to realize DSL type bandwidth on a USB network devicesmaller than my cell phone, plugged into my PC... in my dusty hangar! Lookma... no wires! LOL! Yes Mike, there is a 4G set of standards in the works, which will keep or Pietenpolinfo (and Jim jokes) flying around at lightning speed. In other words...get use to hearing of the G services. Hopefully no one will resurrect gravitas.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:38:11 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: totally non-Pietenpol related

Original Posted By: "Mike Tunnicliffe"
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Original Posted By: Michael Perez
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Original Posted By: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
MikeI hope the answer is yes, because that's what I did. I took my bi-annual in a 172, with CFI. He said it was legal.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----