Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
From Pat Panzera's Experimenter Online mag. Thanks Pat. You are doing a great job.http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?video ... 4896001The link is to the video of Mark Gilmore's, Gold Lindy, Marquart Charger. I have known Mark since 1990 and shared a hangar with him in Anderson, Indiana for about five years. Those of us who have been around this project for the past 20 years new (if it ever got done) it would be something special. It is. Some may have seen it at Brodhead for the Piet flyin. He staged there. Mark was back for Grassroots last weekend and hopped a few rides. When I talked with him back in July he was telling me how he flew circles, working his way to the edge of his flight test box and when his time hit 25 hours he headed up towards Brodhead.Also, here is a link to a bad iPhone video I took last weekend at Brodhead of the Autogyro and my Beech 18 ride with Steve Thomas. 110 GPH on takeoff!http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100012-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
John,Great thanks for sharing! You have to show me how to share vids from iPhone.JackWww.textors.comSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 17, 2009, at 11:18, John Hofmann wrote:> From Pat Panzera's Experimenter Online mag. Thanks Pat. You are > doing a great job.>> http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=40274896001>> The link is to the video of Mark Gilmore's, Gold Lindy, Marquart > Charger. I have known Mark since 1990 and shared a hangar with him > in Anderson, Indiana for about five years. Those of us who have been > around this project for the past 20 years new (if it ever got done) > it would be something special. It is. Some may have seen it at > Brodhead for the Piet flyin. He staged there. Mark was back for > Grassroots last weekend and hopped a few rides. When I talked with > him back in July he was telling me how he flew circles, working his > way to the edge of his flight test box and when his time hit 25 > hours he headed up towards Brodhead.>> Also, here is a link to a bad iPhone video I took last weekend at > Brodhead of the Autogyro and my Beech 18 ride with Steve Thomas. 110 > GPH on takeoff!>> http://gallery.me.com/johnnyskyrocket#100012>> -john->> John Hofmann> Vice-President, Information Technology> The Rees Group, Inc.> 2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800> Madison, WI 53718> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150> Fax: 608.443.2474> Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Talking about the fuel flow in the Beech 18 reminds me of the time when Iwas a young line boy at the airport, back in the 60's. A DC-3 came in forfuel, and as I was up on the wing refueling it, the pilot asked me to checkthe oil in the right engine. I found the door on the nacelle and unscrewedthe dipstick. There was a mark labelled "24" and one at 22, and the oillevel was right in between them. I yelled down to the pilot "You've got 23quarts."He said "Quarts? You mean gallons. Goa ahead and put another gallon init." Thus it is in the world of radial engines.Jack PhillipsNX899JP _____

Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
I'm an old DC-6 engineer we planned on 100 gallons of gas and 1 gallon of oil per hour per engine. The oil dipstick was in 5 gal increments. If you didn't need at least 10 gal of oil per engine you didn't bother putting oil in. By the way the take off power was 59.5 inches at 2800 rpm with a fuel flow of 300 gal/hr per engine. The Connie in Kansas City burns more than that and holds 7020 gallons if you fill it up and that's without the center section tank. Mike McGowan ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net
Jack=2CHad a similar experience when I got a little time in an AT-6 with Dick Schwab. People in NE ohio might remember him. When doing the preflight and checking the oil I asked how much should be in there? He said 8-10. I said quarts? he said no=2C gallons. On another note when we got in and took off he told me to help him watch for traffic as he had promised a fly by. When he asked if I was ready I looked down at the airport. We were only about 1/2 mile from the end of the runway and at 200agl. I said sure. He pointed the thing down at about 50deg and when we went screaming past the terminal bldg we were doing 260mph (well past redline). I asked him if the a.s. indicator was accurate. he said not to worry as they used to dive them to 320 all the time during WWII!He let me fly it all the back to Kent. On of the most exciting flights I've had. Unless you count the engine failure and 2 inflight fires and the rock I hit on floats at about 25kts. But=2C that's not the knid of excitement I like=3B-)Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio

Original Posted By: Tim Willis

Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
Why would anyone want one? Maybe it's just me, but hand proping my A 65 is just part of flying an old open cockpit airplane. I love it all.Gene in rainy TennesseeN502R----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: airlion

Original Posted By: "Tim Willis"
Thanks Tim, for the heads up. Had not heard of the acetone-AFT mix, but you can bet I'll give it a try. I worked a lot of years in the Arctic and around salt water and we found Kroil worked the best and always carried a can on any of my boats.Gene----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Robert Ray
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marquart Charger

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
It may seem weird when looking at the face but on theedge you see it flows right down the grain. Also if youreally look at the grain in that area it has quite a jog in it.Even without the crack I would not been happy with it.One thing about the lift strut attachment area is thatit is where the highest bending stress is from flightloads. Bending loads concentrate at attachmentpoints.Clif Looks a little weird, the stress line cuts across the growth rings, as far as a splice I would trust a proper splice more than the flaw, this may have happened when the tree was cut down it was tortured a few minutes as the tree was coming down and hitting the ground. I've heard of this before. Russell________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: sketches and photosGroup,I will not be mailing out CD's to individuals but rather thru the generosity of Chris Tracy,he has invited me to send him my batch of chicken-scratch sketches and some photos thathe'll post to his fantastic Westcoast Piet site.Chris will let us know when those are up and ready for viewing.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How will the vendor do?

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Follow up on the Aircraft Spruce wing spar...I spoke to two individuals this morning. I did not get the first persons nameas we only spoke briefly, but upon explaining to her what I was calling for (withouta chance to offer much detail), she stated, oh, that is a freight claim.I informed her that the packaging was not damaged in any way, and that accordingto a few of the people that inspected the damage, they were of the opinionthat it looked like damage that might be caused by dull plainer blades, orfrom feeding material too quickly. Her response was, as you know, we are VERYmeticulous with our wood products. There is no way we would have shipped a defectivepart. I said, ok, that may very well be, but mistakes can be made andI am just trying to describe the nature of the damage. She said, hang on asecond, then she promptly handed me off to another individual (Tawny Castillo).While I was trying to explain my situation to Tawny, I hear the other womanspeaking under her breath its a freight claim... but I continued to describethe situation. My conversation with Tawny proceeded like this...Tawny: Did you sign for the shipment as damaged?Me: No, the packaging on the wood kit was in tact and in good condition. I didn'thave any reason to suspect any damage, especially by the shipper. I have somephotos of the damage if you would like to have a look at the damage I am tryingto describe. (I did mention to her that the plywood carton was damaged,so we opened it right away and inspected the contents, which looked to be ingood condition.)Tawny: Well, if the shipment was signed for free and clear than there isn't muchwe can do as far as filing a claim with UPS and ohhhh this material was deliveredway back in July. Me: Yes, way back in July (2 months ago), but the packaging on this material wasnot damaged in any way. Why would I have filed a freight damage claim? Also,some of this material may not be used for many months, but... (interrupted)Tawny: I can get you over to the order desk to place a new order for the part youneed. Me: No, I would like to discuss the defective part I currently have. She asked for the part number for the specific component, which I provided. Shetallied for a moment and stated (kind of to herself as she researched the part),there would be a freight charge. I was wondering, is she talking to me?She asked, you said that you have photos of the damage? I stated yes. She thenasked if I could e-mail them over for the customer service manager to takea look and see if there is anything they can do. I told her I would... now Iam waiting for their response. It is hard to illustrate their willingness to blame me and/or the shipper. I didntrecord the conversation, but I did take notes in order to capture the highlightsbecause I was afraid of this sort of reaction. They were ready for meto just order another spar, something I will not be doing with them if it isnecessary. Perhaps they will come through.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How will the vendor do?

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
E-mail message to Tawny Castillo (AS&S)Tawny:Ive attached a few photos (below) of the damage I found on the spar material wespoke about earlier today. Fortunately, this damage happened to be right abouteye level when on my wing jig, otherwise it may have gone undetected. To me,this damage looked like nothing more than a scratch, but since I was uncertain,I called on several experienced builders to get their opinion. One of theindividuals that looked at the damage in person is an A&P with Inspector Authorization.He inspected it closely under magnification and stated that he believesthat it is indeed a crack, and that the part should not be used. Furthermore,this individual (and others) claim that the way this crack is distributedagainst the grain on one face and with the grain on another, that it looksreminiscent of the type of damage done from a dull plainer blade or from feedingthe material too quickly. Im not suggesting that this IS what happened, justthat a few experienced woodworkers and aircraft builders concur on this analysis.I know that it is my responsibility to inspect and report any damage upon deliverythat may have occurred during shipping, but as I stated during our conversation,the carton that contained the wood kit showed no signs of damage. In fact,it was completely in tact and packaged very well. Furthermore, even thoughI performed a preliminary inspection and inventory, some of this material maynot be used for many months, therefore some items may not get a close inspectionfor some time. If this type of damage were found on a less critical partI may just attempt a repair, or replace it on my next order, but this is a criticaland expensive component that I expected to be in good condition giventhat it is certified material. I will be paying close attention to the remainingparts.Cordially,Mark ChouinardOwasso, Oklahoma-----I included the photos I posted on the other link for her to review. I hope theyare willing to assist.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
Talking about the fuel flow in the Beech 18 reminds me of the time when I was a young line boy at the airport=2C back in the 60=92s. A DC-3 came in for fuel=2C and as I was up on the wing refueling it=2C the pilot asked me to check the oil in the right engine. I found the door on the nacelle and unscrewed the dipstick. There was a mark labelled =9324=94 and one at 22=2C and the oil level was right in between them. I yelled down to the pilot =93You=92ve got 23 quarts.=94He said =93Quarts? You mean gallons. Goa ahead and put another gallon in it.=94 Thus it is in the world of radial engines.Jack PhillipsNX899JP

Original Posted By:> ** owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
>>> Talking about the fuel flow in the Beech 18 reminds me of the time when I> was a young line boy at the airport, back in the 60=92s. A DC-3 came in for> fuel, and as I was up on the wing refueling it, the pilot asked me to check> the oil in the right engine. I found the door on the nacelle and unscrewed> the dipstick. There was a mark labelled =9324=94 and one at 22, and the oil> level was right in between them. I yelled down to the pilot =93You=92ve got 23> quarts.=94>>> He said =93Quarts? You mean gallons. Goa ahead and put another gallon in> it.=94 Thus it is in the world of radial engines.>>> Jack Phillips>> NX899JP>>> ------------------------------>