Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Mike Scovel"
Matco is full castoring and only $149,http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/lg/ ... htmlRickOn Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:Oscar Zuniga wrote:Dan; the tailwheel on 41CC is a Scott. -I can sendyou pix of the tailwheel setup if they would be useful.Mine is supposedly a Scott, too, but it's not a fully castoring tailwheel. -Well, it is, but it isn't at the same time. -Here's a fuzzy picture to show what I mean:http://5n429glenoak.homelinux.net/galle ... mg_2592The arms are attached to the rudder with the springs and those prevent it from castoring fully.Jeez, AS&S wants a kings ransom for a new Scott 2000 assembly: $1837.65 for the full deal and still over $1100 for everything up to the hub and wheel. -Think I'll make due with my homemade triangular tailwheel dolly thinga-ma-jig.Thanks,Dan-- Dan YocumFermilab -630.840.6509yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.govFermilab. -Just zeros and ones.st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... nics.comle, List Admin.="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution-- Rick HollandCastle Rock, Colorado"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Air Camper on floats

Original Posted By: "Mike Scovel"
HiI'm just considering starting this odyssey I have a few early questions. 1) I've found fuselages that are framed up for sale I'm thinking thisand buying premade ribs would expedite the process.2) I'm a big guy 6'3" and a 42 waist will I fit I saw somewhere therewas a mod to increase the width of the fuselage where can I find that.3) Best supplier of wood4) I've built RC control model plane (remember "Flight of the Phoenix")so I have some basic skills. But I live in Ga. and I'd like to go see somefinished planesThank You________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Air Camper on floats

Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Has anyone ever put the Air Camper on Floats? Pros and Cons please.--------Mike ScovelRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:04:06 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie

Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NewbieWelcome Newbie Being a builder now 2 years into the process and fellow wide guy, I builtmy own fuse to my specifications which now measures 27" inside dimension. I found no plans to do that, just my own desire. I carried that from the firewall to the rear seat back then began the taper to the tail. Easily done, I am building in poplar which on the east coast is easier to find, purchaseand afford and I really like working with it.Just remember that what you do in one part will have an impact on other parts. Where you may use more plywood or reset the radius of a curve as aresult of your modification. Some of it is learning on the fly and some is preplanning, either way you need to be prepared for the impact on the whole for your modifications and ready to pay the piper for those changes. That also includes weight increases, what you add in one area you need to reduce inan other.JohnIn a message dated 9/23/2009 11:53:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sinnoj(at)bellsouth.net writes:Hi I=99m just considering starting this odyssey I have a few early questions. 1) I=99ve found fuselages that are framed up for sale I=99m thinking this and buying premade ribs would expedite the process. 2) I=99m a big guy 6=993=9D and a 42 waist will I fit I saw somewhere there was a mod to increase the width of the fuselage where can I find that. 3) Best supplier of wood 4) I=99ve built RC control model plane (remember =9CFlight of the Phoenix=9D) so I have some basic skills. But I live in Ga. and I=99d like to go see some finished planes Thank You====================================(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) ========================================================================(http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ====================================________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:06:03 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Air Camper on floats

Original Posted By: airlion

Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Well, that's not entirely true. With ANY homebuilt, modifications andrepairs can be done by anyone (I replaced two cylinders on my RV-4, which Idid not build, this past winter). However, the annual "ConditionInspection" must be done by either a person holding the "Repairman'sCertificate" for that airplane or an A&P license. Note that InspectionAuthority (IA) is NOT required to do inspections on a homebuilt.So if you buy a Pietenpol, or a Pietenpol project, even without theRepairman's Certificate you can still do all your own work, except for theinspection.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____

Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Problem resolved! I just received a call from Tawny Castillo at Aircraft Spruce today. She reviewedthe photos I sent with several people (to include Mr. Irwin), and they concludedthat this damage did not look to be caused by the shipper. She said thatthey were going to truck (at their expense) a new spar to my location. I am impressed! Two days after reporting the problem and they totally came through!I was a little skeptical at first, but I tried to be optimistic. As faras this particular experience goes, I am a happy customer. Oh, I'm not realhappy that I received faulty "certified" wood, but I am certainly happy that AS&Sis standing behind their product. Sorry to keep carrying on about this for the last few days... I hope some of youfound this report helpful.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:07:06 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I haven't weighed in on this, wanting to see what they did, but I'm notsurprised. Over the 8 years I was building my Pietenpol, I bought an awfullot of stuff from AS&S, and overall I found them to be a very good companyto deal with. Their prices can be a bit high on some articles, but theyalways HAVE what you need and generally ship it pretty quickly. I don'tknow how you could build an airplane if they weren't in business, becausethey are the only company that carries EVERYTHING you need. Wicks has goodwood, and some hardware, but not everything.Glad you got it resolved. Not get out to that shop and make some sawdust!Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Now that I have seen it done, I am going to pursue this matter a bit farther. I'll be looking for more replies, hopefully with some technical info and or Pros/Cons.--------Mike ScovelRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"

Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Howdy Newbie! Don't worry about expediting, just get some plans and start studying and building.There will be days of absolute frustration and overload followed by daysof complete satisfaction when the pieces start coming together. I've only beenbuilding since March, but after a few snags and delays I am getting real closeto having a couple of huge assemblies that look like wings. Lot's of fun.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:30:50 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Air Camper on floats

Original Posted By: "tkreiner"
I will be going to Tulsa probably tomorrow and then on to Ft. Worth next week sometime.-I need a couple 4X4 sheets or a 4X 8 sheet of either .020 or .025" 2024T-3 to make my cowl from.does anybody have a name or phone number of a supplierin those places that might sell retail? if I don't locate someone beforeleaving I'll most likely just order from Airparts in Kansas city. thanks forany help.RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie

Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Newbie,Straight from my FSDO, as this question has come up frequently, and I decided to call and verify. If the builders log on the airframe you are considering purchasing, along withyour logged efforts reflect that you have done 51% of the work, and you providethe FSDO with a notarized Affidavit of Facts to support that, the FAA will conferthe Repairman Certificate upon you.In the case of an outright purchase of a flying experimental aircraft, you cannotapply for the Repairman Certificate (on that airframe) unless you have performed51% of the construction. (Not sure how that could happen...)However, as the owner of the purchased (and completed) experimental aircraft YOUmay perform 100% of the maintenance and repairs to the aircraft. The work youperform must then be signed off by an A&P. Annual Inspections must also be signed off by an IA, but if during the inspectiona problem is found where a repair is warranted, you may perform the repairand the IA can sign it off.In order to have an A&P sign off your work, it would be wise to cultivate a goodworking relationship with the A&P well in advance of approaching him to signoff any work.Hope this addition helps.TK--------Tom KreinerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:24:40 -0400

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"

Original Posted By:> ezdriver(at)sbcglobal.net
It has been done. I considered it=2C but I do not believe it has enough wing. The J-3 makes a decent floatplane=2C but has significantly more wing area. It reminds me of a pacer or tri pacer which makes a better speed boat than float plane. I have almost 200hrs in a tri-pacer on floats. Scared me more than once. I would call it's performance marginal at best. I think the Piet could do well on floats with about 4ft more wing. But=2C I don't know if I want to be the one to tackle the engineering involved.Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Air Camper on floats

Original Posted By: "Mike Scovel"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: leaf springsSteve,I began taxi testing with a single-leaf spring setup as your photo shows you have and found out that it slappedaround back there-was not stiff enough so I added a second leaf and bound the two together with a strapfitting.Two good reasons for this. Should you break one leaf spring (I've had it happen) the second leaf spring will keep yourtailwheel from bashing up into your rudder and making a mess.Secondly-if one leaf breaks you still have control of your tailwheel as it will stay in position.Tony Bingelis has a great section in his books where he shows how to drill holes (you simply use a masonry bit) in springsteel leafs and how to re-contour/shape without using heat. You don't want to use heat to bend a spring.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Air Camper on floats

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
I want to thank everyone for their input. I am still in the research mode. HopefullyI can begin building next year. finishing a VariEze at the moment. Utilizingthe Corvair engine with the 5th Bearing arrangement. Looking forwardto being an active member on this site as soon as I start building and maybe before.--------Mike ScovelRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:59:54 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> et>> > Has anyone ever put the Air Camper on Floats? Pros and Cons please.> > --------> Mike Scovel> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 540#264540> > > > > > > ============================================> > > =0A_________________________________________________________________=0ABing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.=0Ahttp://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form= ... __________