Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
While I'm on the subject of building the straight axle gear, I want to say thishas been one of the more satisfying things I have done on the Piet. It certainlyhas been complex, but not the monster I thought it was going to be. This inthanks in large part to what Chris Tracey has posted on his website. Thank youagain Chris! You have undoubtedly saved me many hours of grief and expensein wasted material. From the begriming I had always planned on doing the wood,straight axle gear. For six years now I have dreaded/feared having to do it!I was always envious of those who had completed theirs, hoping for the day whereI would have mine done. Now I am there and I can honestly say I see the lightat the end of the tunnel for finishing my Piet. For those that are just starting,or are part way along, have faith!!! You can do this. Its not that hard.For those of us that enjoy building, the biggest problem is what to do when weare done? How many airplanes can I afford to own, hanger and fly?P.S. I have attached a couple of photos of the gear as it stands now, just beforethe spreader bars were added.. Rick Schreiberlmforge(at)earthlink.net________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sue sounds like a smart lady, who also knows how to 'stick it' to the ex!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Richard,Your work looks very precise! The best thing about Chris' method is that youget another workbench for a few weeks.;-)Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.) _____

Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Gary,My biggest problem was ceiling height. I am building in a walkout basement. I actuallyhad to remove some of the ceiling tiles to work on the gear, ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Gary:How are your wings progressing? I started out by doing my wing ribs and storedthem at various locations until I built my wings. I was really amazed at how muchroom the ribs and spars took up once assembled into wings. Rick S----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
You had to ask! Are you a friend of Chris Tracy? He's always giving me griefthat HE has HIS ribs done! Right now I'm on the center section. Wings tofollow.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.) _____

Original Posted By: Richard Schreiber
RickIt's a great feeling and a big boost to finally get you fuselage on its gear. Just try not to sit in it to much and pretend.One of the reasons I built the gear with the fuselage upside down was to get it up out of the way of the wife and kids. With it up high they could still park the car in the garage and move about without bumping the plane. I on the other hand being taller whacked my head into the axel several times. Ouch!ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I used 1 x 19 for drag / anti-drag wires, using thimbles and nicopressfittings. Pain in the butt to bend that stuff around a thimble and get itinto the nicopress sleeve. I used the same for the landing gear bracing(straight axle). I used 7 x 19 everywhere else.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----

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Original Posted By: Jim Markle

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Chris:I know what you mean about wacking your head! I still have the scars. RickValparaiso, In----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Tim Willis
It's going to be a beautiful weekend here Jim... are you going to be home? I'dlike to take another look at your wing if you have time to be in the shop.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:31:32 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Simple. 1 x 19 is stronger but cannot flex over pulleys as well. So whereI needed stength without flexibility, I used 1 x 19. For the control cablesor the wires that are removed and re-installed more frquently (like theflying wires) I used the more flexible 7 x 19.Jack _____

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: More cables and turnbucklesI see that 7x7 as being listed as aircraft cable and appears to be between the 1x19 and 7 x 19 in flexibility. Any reason not to go with the one stop shop method and just use that through out? What was your cabling material stainless, galv, steel and what was the nicoprress crimping material?In a message dated 9/25/2009 11:47:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:Simple. 1 x 19 is stronger but cannot flex over pulleys as well. So where I needed stength without flexibility, I used 1 x 19. For the control cables or the wires that are removed and re-installed more frquently (like theflying wires) I used the more flexible 7 x 19. Jack ____________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Correction to an earlier post I made in haste (would that be "post haste").I am using 7 x19 galvanized through out. Mine is not flight tested, but I amfollowing the lead of others who have. I tried some 1 x 19 and decided itwasn't worth the PIA.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.) _____

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I used stainless steel cable. Nicopress fittings were copper. _____

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: More cables and turnbucklesDoes anyone have any thoughts on this as a viable selection for a one stop shop for a Piets cable? I am interested in hearing your thoughts. Pro if any and con. ThanksJohn Wire Rope - Aircraft Cable 1/8", 7x7, 500 ft reel.Price: $25.00This item is in stock Quantity: Brief DescriptionDetailed DescriptionSpecificationsGalvanized Aircraft Cable, 7x7 construction, 1700 lb Breaking Strength. Galvanized Aircraft Cable, 7x7 construction, 1700 lb Breaking Strength. In a message dated 9/25/2009 12:11:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:I used stainless steel cable. Nicopress fittings were copper. ____________________________________

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum

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John:I asked a couple of AP's at the field about using cable from Sears or the localtractor supply. The cable was identified as being aircraft grade. All of themsaid don't. Just by from a legitimate aircraft supplier. Even though it may belisted as aircraft grade, it may not be. The risk is too grate for the costsavings. Actually the local stuff was more expensive than Aircraft Spruce.Rick S----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Would probably be fine, although you don't need all that much 1/8" cable. Iused 3/32" for the tail bracing wires and all the control cables.Jack PhillipsNX899JP _____

Original Posted By: Dave and Connie