Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Well, since the job lay off, I am getting pretty stingy with my George Washington's, but I want to start gluing rib sticks together and get my ribs started.So, I went to the local dealer in town which that sells T-88 here in Fresno, and I just couldn't justify to my wife spending the $21.95 for the 4 ounce sized bottles. I know there are other acceptable glues out there that have the test of time behind them, and I read about them in Tony B's book, but I am looking for what advice you all might have regard alternative glues I might try at least for a few ribs.=0AI know building an airplane is a luxury, and probably not for the un-employed. BUT, building a few ribs now that I have the wood cut up is not that expensive. So, I thought I might ask ya'll about epoxy alternatives that you might have used that would be acceptable for ribs. I want epoxy in the really stessful places, and the fuse, etc,... but the rib sticks with the gussets should be OK with older, tried and proven glues.=0AReading Tony's books gives me a start. I just thought I'd pick a few Piet Brains for some more advice. I saw a bucket of Plastic Resin glue there for about $9 bucks and thought I might go with it to start.... =0AThoughts?Mark=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wire wheel covering

Original Posted By: "David Paule"
Tom B.,Covering the wire wheels really is pretty simple. I made an aluminum disc outof some scrap that I had laying around. Probably about 3 1/2" to 4" in diameterand around .100" thick. I cut a hole in the center that would fit over thehub and actually just rest up against the spokes. I cut a piece of fabric thatwas a few inches larger diameter than my rim and cut a hole in the center.I glued the aluminum ring to the fabric and placed it over the hub against thespokes then just wrapped and glued the fabric around the inside of the rim wherethe bead of the tire contacts the rim. Really pretty simple. The only badthing is trying to muscle that tire over the fabric without messing it up.After a failed attempt I decided to leave the tire on the rim and clamp it tightand squezze it to itself so I could get to the inside of the rim. I haven'tchanged tires yet. When I do I was thinking I would just change the coveringtoo. However someone at Brodhead told me a lot of custom motorcycle shopshave a tire mounting machine that actually doesn't touch the rim. Needed forall of the custom rims on choppers out there. Might give that a try. Nice thingabout motorcycle tires is they usually have more natural rubber in them sothey don't rot out as fast as maybe a car tire might. Those tires are 15 yearsold. They show no signs of checking or cracking yet, probably because theystay so dry.Again a couple of shots to see that disc I'm talking;http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 094.JPGBig Thanks to Chris Tracy for that fantastic site!!!!!!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By:> EmchAir(at)aol.com
Don=2CI replied once but I don't know if it made it through... Anyway - thank you - this is exactly the info I was looking for. I love the look of your covered wheels - can't believe the tires are that old.. Just to clarify=2C the aluminum disc just rests on the hubs / spokes (as in=2C is not attached in any way - other than the pull of fabric of course).Thanks again!Tom B.> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wire wheel covering

Original Posted By: TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Don what size wheels and tires you got on that puppy and what size axle do they fit on?Bryan GreenElgin SC ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Tom, Yup, just the pull of the fabric when it is tight holds that disc up against thespokes. The fabric kinda gets a shape that is a little unique. I think itwould be a lot easier than making aluminum covers. By the way, I have a greasefitting on the hub that greases the axle. I made sure when the rims were lacedto the hub that that fitting was located radially in the same place as thevalve stem. That way when I covered them I could place an inspection ring onthe inside covering so I could get air to the tire and grease to the hub. Justa thought. I had bad visions of an inspection cover for that ring flying offhitting the pilot, passenger or part of the plane when the wheel was spinning,so I never did put one there, just left it open.Don E.NX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:16:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Original Posted By: "bryan green"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > Tom B.=2C> > Covering the wire wheels really is pretty simple. I made an aluminum disc out of some scrap that I had laying around. Probably about 3 1/2" to 4" in diameter and around .100" thick. I cut a hole in the center that would fit over the hub and actually just rest up against the spokes. I cut a piece of fabric that was a few inches larger diameter than my rim and cut a hole in the center. I glued the aluminum ring to the fabric and placed it over the hub against the spokes then just wrapped and glued the fabric around the inside of the rim where the bead of the tire contacts the rim. Really pretty simple. The only bad thing is trying to muscle that tire over the fabric without messing it up. After a failed attempt I decided to leave the tire on the rim and clamp it tight and squezze it to itself so I could get to the inside of the rim. I haven't changed tires yet. When I do I was thinking I would just change the covering too. However someone at Brodhead told me a lot o!> f custom motorcycle shops have a tire mounting machine that actually doesn't touch the rim. Needed for all of the custom rims on choppers out there. Might give that a try. Nice thing about motorcycle tires is they usually have more natural rubber in them so they don't rot out as fast as maybe a car tire might. Those tires are 15 years old. They show no signs of checking or cracking yet=2C probably because they stay so dry.> > Again a couple of shots to see that disc I'm talking=3B> > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 20_095.JPG> > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 20_094.JPG> > Big Thanks to Chris Tracy for that fantastic site!!!!!!> Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 222#270222> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com > > > Tom B., > > Covering the wire wheels really is pretty simple. I made an aluminum disc out of some scrap that I had laying around. Probably about 3 1/2" to 4" in diameter and around .100" thick. I cut a hole in the center that would fit over the hub and actually just rest up against the spokes. I cut a piece of fabric that was a few inches larger diameter than my rim and cut a hole in the center. I glued the aluminum ring to the fabric and placed it over the hub against the spokes then just wrapped and glued the fabric around the inside of the rim where the bead of the tire contacts the rim. Really pretty simple. The only bad thing is trying to muscle that tire over the fabric without messing it up. After a failed attempt I decided to leave the tire on the rim and clamp it tight and squezze it to itself so I could get to the inside of the rim. I haven't changed tires yet. When I do I was thinking I would just change the covering too. However someone at Brodhead told me a lot o! > f custom motorcycle shops have a tire mounting machine that actually doesn't touch the rim. Needed for all of the custom rims on choppers out there. Might give that a try. Nice thing about motorcycle tires is they usually have more natural rubber in them so they don't rot out as fast as maybe a car tire might. Those tires are 15 years old. They show no signs of checking or cracking yet, probably because they stay so dry. > > Again a couple of shots to see that disc I'm talking; > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 20_095.JPG > > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 20_094.JPG > > Big Thanks to Chris Tracy for that fantastic site!!!!!! > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 222#270222 > > > Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,>======================== > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wire wheel covering