Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "David Paule"
Hey guys & gals:I couldn't help but pass this info on since it has a great and very real connection to the Pietenpol Air Camper.Take a look at this web site for info on a new organization. The fellow who started this, Don Abbott, is an old friend of mine from here in Indiana. I was talking with him last winter when we were in Florida (he lives on Sanibel Island), and he told me of his idea to start a aircraft/camping organization. He has finally made it's presence known via the attached site. I didn't know at the time that the name would be the American Air Campers Association.I think it's a great idea and he is looking for 6 regional directors and a wing leader in each state. This is a perfect tie-in with our chosen aircraft. Watch the video and then drop him a line with your interest and ideas. This would be a great way to further promote the aircraft that really started the idea of camping from your plane in the first place. Go to www.americanaircampers.comWhat do you guys think of the idea?Bob Robert Butsch7360 Steinmeier DriveIndianapolis, Indiana 46250-2567PH 317-841-3786________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: > Gene & Tammy
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Got a new camera Scott, Scott Knowlton wrote: > > I'm with Gene on this assessment. Departure stalls happen with an engine failurebecause the instant loss of thrust is accompanied by a dramatic increasein angle of attack. Remember the old pictures of the relative airflow in a fullpower climb as compared to a power off nose high attitude. That relative airflowchanges very quickly with a power loss to the point that the wing will reachits critical angle of attack before the pilot can react to it. Try it at 2000feet. With full power, briskly pull the nose up until you reach your departureclimb speed, then retard the throttle to idle and see the result. I'd suggestafter you try that your climb angle on departure will become a little moreconservative. Even more reason to get that stick forward and find that max L/D speed, right now! So, "the book" recommends 2 speeds: one for normal take-offs and one for short field. In ye olde spam can, a C-152, the former is 65-75KIAS, for the latter it's 54KIAS. In my Piet, the former (Vy) is 63mph, the latter (Vx) is 59mph. I would never fly any slower than the Vx speed - there's no point. As happy circumstance would have it, max L/D is also 59mph, so on power failure during climb out, push, push, push the stick forward. It's completely anti-intuitive; your brain says "pull back, pull back, pull back," which is exactly the wrong thing to do! I am going to try Scott's experiment at altitude - I seem to recall doing the maneuver when I got my licence almost 20 years ago, but I don't remember the results. > As an aside, the climb angle of a transport category airliner on departure isnecessary to meet the stages of minimum net flight path altitudes on departureand are designed to be sustainable in the event of a thrust loss in one engine(one... Because they have more than one...) > Scott Knowlton > (slow builder in Burlington) Burlington... which state? Cheers, Dan > > -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "John Recine"
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Original Posted By: "Scott Knowlton "
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Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Got a new cameraThe state of Ontario!! -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: H RULE

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
One of my main reasons for haste is my 8 yr old grandson, Zachary. He tellseveryone that we are going camping in the Aircamper! Zach even picked outthe instruments he wants in the front cockpit, but the first instrument hepicked was a clock. He says he, ".needs to know when it's time to turnaround and go home." How can I resist? I hope this site gets up andrunning..Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.) _____

Original Posted By: "Pieti Lowell"
We re-covered the Aircamper at Pioneer Airport a few years ago during Oshkosh.This plane was built by Bernard in 1966. I have a few photo's of the constructionof the wing. Here is how the designer put it together. Note the laminatedspar. Plywood was glued on both sides of the spar ( under the fitting ).The spar was signed Bernard Pietenpol - 1966.Dan WilsonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dan1 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Got a new camera

Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Hi Jeff:,Looks perfect to me, I'm glad that I never have shown the rate of climb when Ihad the Werner 145, 500 cu in. on my Piet, It was very capable of a loop on take-offand still have 200 feet under me at the bottom of the loop. God help meif the engine sneezed once. I tested that item at 2000Ft.Jeff, fly as you feel comfortable with, And you sure look good to me.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:58:55 -0500 (EST)

Original Posted By: Matt Dralle

Original Posted By: > "Dan Yocum"
> To: > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Got a new camera > > > Dan, up to a point I agree with you. I think what Harvey is trying to say > is that if you take off at too steep of an angle and your airspeed is low > and the engine quites close to the ground, you don't have time to push your > nose over and build up flying speed before you hit the ground. It's all > quite different than being let off a tow at 200 feet. I've had two friends > die because of steep takeoffs close to the ground. One only killed himself > but the other killed his 4 yr old son, his father-in-law and himself. It > went down in front of his wife and his mother-in-law. He was flying a super > cub (as was the other), had thousands of hours as an Alaskan Fish and Game > pilot and was showing off. As I say, very different than a 200' release > with a glider. > Gene > > ----- Original Message -----