Original Posted By: "David Paule"
Still a long ways to go, but the good news is that I managed to get thru thechainsaw work and keep all my digits, and, so far, I have not taken off toomuch wood! The final shaping will take longer than I thought, as it's easyto get fatigued and lose concentration.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Gary,It's very impressive. And without any major bloodstains, too. Excellent work. David Paule ----- Original Message -----
Gary,It's very impressive. And without any major bloodstains, too. Excellent work. David Paule ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Bolting horizontal stab to fuselage longerons
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
How come you guys are insisting on going through the longerons?In my post on using the pronged nutplates I specificaly said I wasn'tdoing that. I have an extra crossmember under the leading edge.There's already a 1/8" ply plate there,. Put another one across under the longerons, or even 1/4" thick if you think you have to. Bolt through the crossmember and plate. I firmly believe that there should be an absolute minimum of holes in the longerons. Especialy considering that those nuts require a 5/16" hole to fit into.Clif ----- Original Message -----
How come you guys are insisting on going through the longerons?In my post on using the pronged nutplates I specificaly said I wasn'tdoing that. I have an extra crossmember under the leading edge.There's already a 1/8" ply plate there,. Put another one across under the longerons, or even 1/4" thick if you think you have to. Bolt through the crossmember and plate. I firmly believe that there should be an absolute minimum of holes in the longerons. Especialy considering that those nuts require a 5/16" hole to fit into.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Bolting horizontal stab to fuselage
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dan,All my struts are Hickory, also, so the feel was not unusual. It is plentyhard, and the grain can be somewhat directional, affecting how I use thespoke shave. In his book, Alvin Schuster, warns about the eye-choking dustfrom a bench grinder and a sanding pad. He wasn't exaggerating, but it surecleaned up the saw cuts in a hurry!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.) _____
Dan,All my struts are Hickory, also, so the feel was not unusual. It is plentyhard, and the grain can be somewhat directional, affecting how I use thespoke shave. In his book, Alvin Schuster, warns about the eye-choking dustfrom a bench grinder and a sanding pad. He wasn't exaggerating, but it surecleaned up the saw cuts in a hurry!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.) _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
66/34 or 64/34. It's really not that hard...just exacting. I am finding thatI need to be in the right frame of mind - no distractions, etc...Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down)-----Original Message-----
66/34 or 64/34. It's really not that hard...just exacting. I am finding thatI need to be in the right frame of mind - no distractions, etc...Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down)-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: Douwe Blumberg
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Original Posted By: Douwe Blumberg
photos photos photos!!!!! ----- Original Message -----
photos photos photos!!!!! ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: progress!
Original Posted By: Darrel Jones
Congrats Douwe! Do you have a picture?JackDAMSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 21, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> >>> Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the > finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!!>> I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole > thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint > scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm > really pleased with it.>> I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get > inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's > in my studio right now)>> Keep building!!>> Douwe>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:24:28 -0800
Congrats Douwe! Do you have a picture?JackDAMSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 21, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> >>> Today was a BIG day here. After a couple of years, we put the > finished wings on the finished fuse of 799B!!>> I can't describe how rewarding and exciting it was to see the whole > thing together and pretty much finished, I've never seen the paint > scheme all together until now (except for in my sketches) I'm > really pleased with it.>> I'm hoping to get all the little tidbits finished this month and get > inspected soon so I can get it broken down and to the airport (it's > in my studio right now)>> Keep building!!>> Douwe>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:24:28 -0800
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: Jim
Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
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=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHappy New Year to All, =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ASo far I have spent 3 weekends on this project. Many thanks=0Ato Dan Helsper and PF Beck!! Before anyone gets too liberal with the=0Acongratulations, I am keenly aware that, until this thing is actually swinging=0Aon the end of an engine, it=99s nothing more than a potential wall clock,=0Aat best!! Still have the hub to drill out, final sanding and balancing, and=0Avarnish. =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0ABTWWhat a LOT of filing and sanding!! Another one of=0Athese and I can throw away the Bow-FlexI=99ll be looking like=0APopeye!! =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A=0A=0AGary Boothe =0A=0ACool, Ca. =0A=0APietenpol =0A=0AWW Corvair Conversion, mounted =0A=0ATail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on=0Agear =0A=0A(16 ribs down) =0A=0A=0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Happy New Year to All,So far I have spent 3 weekends on this project. Many thanks to Dan Helsperand PF Beck!! Before anyone gets too liberal with the congratulations, I amkeenly aware that, until this thing is actually swinging on the end of anengine, it's nothing more than a potential wall clock, at best!! Still havethe hub to drill out, final sanding and balancing, and varnish.BTW.What a LOT of filing and sanding!! Another one of these and I can throwaway the Bow-Flex.I'll be looking like Popeye!!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.)________________________________________________________________________________
Happy New Year to All,So far I have spent 3 weekends on this project. Many thanks to Dan Helsperand PF Beck!! Before anyone gets too liberal with the congratulations, I amkeenly aware that, until this thing is actually swinging on the end of anengine, it's nothing more than a potential wall clock, at best!! Still havethe hub to drill out, final sanding and balancing, and varnish.BTW.What a LOT of filing and sanding!! Another one of these and I can throwaway the Bow-Flex.I'll be looking like Popeye!!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: "Gene & Tammy"
Happy New Year to All,So far I have spent 3 weekends on this project. Many thanks to Dan Helsperand PF Beck!! Before anyone gets too liberal with the congratulations, I amkeenly aware that, until this thing is actually swinging on the end of anengine, it's nothing more than a potential wall clock, at best!! Still havethe hub to drill out, final sanding and balancing, and varnish.BTW.What a LOT of filing and sanding!! Another one of these and I can throwaway the Bow-Flex.I'll be looking like Popeye!!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.)________________________________________________________________________________
Happy New Year to All,So far I have spent 3 weekends on this project. Many thanks to Dan Helsperand PF Beck!! Before anyone gets too liberal with the congratulations, I amkeenly aware that, until this thing is actually swinging on the end of anengine, it's nothing more than a potential wall clock, at best!! Still havethe hub to drill out, final sanding and balancing, and varnish.BTW.What a LOT of filing and sanding!! Another one of these and I can throwaway the Bow-Flex.I'll be looking like Popeye!!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Welcome Wade. Where in Tennessee?GeneN502R In WINDY Tennesseea >> Wade from Tennessee>> --------> Pietenpol Aerial>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ---Checked by AVG - www.avg.com09:18:00________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:05:09 -0500
Welcome Wade. Where in Tennessee?GeneN502R In WINDY Tennesseea >> Wade from Tennessee>> --------> Pietenpol Aerial>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ---Checked by AVG - www.avg.com09:18:00________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:05:09 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jim,Yes, I will leave the length at 66" until I get a chance to fly it (assumingit lasts that long!). I really hope to fire up the Corvair at the Springtime Corvair College. How about you? You must be ready, too...Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down)-----Original Message-----
Jim,Yes, I will leave the length at 66" until I get a chance to fly it (assumingit lasts that long!). I really hope to fire up the Corvair at the Springtime Corvair College. How about you? You must be ready, too...Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down)-----Original Message-----
RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.> Michael,> > > > Thank you! Of course I am happy to talk about any part of my favorite> subject! For now, though, you can always consult with both Dan > Helsper and> PF Beck. PF is currently flying his second home made prop (Corvair > poweredPiet), and has, I think, flown two other props on that plane.> pfbeck(at)bellsouth.net, helspersew(at)aol.com. > > > > Gary Boothe> > Cool, Ca.> > Pietenpol> > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted> > Tail done, Fuselage on gear> > (16 ribs down.)> > _____ >
Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.> Michael,> > > > Thank you! Of course I am happy to talk about any part of my favorite> subject! For now, though, you can always consult with both Dan > Helsper and> PF Beck. PF is currently flying his second home made prop (Corvair > poweredPiet), and has, I think, flown two other props on that plane.> pfbeck(at)bellsouth.net, helspersew(at)aol.com. > > > > Gary Boothe> > Cool, Ca.> > Pietenpol> > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted> > Tail done, Fuselage on gear> > (16 ribs down.)> > _____ >
Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: Jim
Yep, that is indeed a "Cool" prop you've got there.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:21:45 +0000 (GMT)
Yep, that is indeed a "Cool" prop you've got there.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:21:45 +0000 (GMT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Michael,Thank you! Of course I am happy to talk about any part of my favoritesubject! For now, though, you can always consult with both Dan Helsper andPF Beck. PF is currently flying his second home made prop (Corvair poweredPiet), and has, I think, flown two other props on that plane.pfbeck(at)bellsouth.net, helspersew(at)aol.com. Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.) _____
Michael,Thank you! Of course I am happy to talk about any part of my favoritesubject! For now, though, you can always consult with both Dan Helsper andPF Beck. PF is currently flying his second home made prop (Corvair poweredPiet), and has, I think, flown two other props on that plane.pfbeck(at)bellsouth.net, helspersew(at)aol.com. Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.) _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Have you got Dan's CD? It pretty much walks you thru it. I used the methodsthat Dan talks about, and the one's that PF Beck sent to me. PF has ahelpful 2 page review that he'll send you for free, + a case of JohnnyWalker Red (just kidding). Between those 2 guys you will get all the helpyou need. You will recognized that I copied PF's profile.Mahogany should make a beautiful prop! And much easier to work than Hickory.:-0 Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.) _____
Have you got Dan's CD? It pretty much walks you thru it. I used the methodsthat Dan talks about, and the one's that PF Beck sent to me. PF has ahelpful 2 page review that he'll send you for free, + a case of JohnnyWalker Red (just kidding). Between those 2 guys you will get all the helpyou need. You will recognized that I copied PF's profile.Mahogany should make a beautiful prop! And much easier to work than Hickory.:-0 Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(16 ribs down.) _____
Re: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.Just a thot for practice. I won a prop at an EAA chapter raffle for a $2 ticket.The maker "Otto" made this prop as a practice prop and it has 4 layers. He toldme that the final prop had 8 layers. He also warned me that mine is simplya wall hanger and should not even be considered for a club!OT at Paradise airport South of Oklahoma City, is a company that does a lot ofprop work. They havea lot of wood "lasts" (I think that is the correct term forthe model used as a template) for props. Very interesting. I bought my Beechcraft215 electric prop from the old man who had established the company. Hisson ran it when I bought my prop.Blue Skies and admiration for prop makers. ,Steve D. ----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress from Cool Propeller Co.Just a thot for practice. I won a prop at an EAA chapter raffle for a $2 ticket.The maker "Otto" made this prop as a practice prop and it has 4 layers. He toldme that the final prop had 8 layers. He also warned me that mine is simplya wall hanger and should not even be considered for a club!OT at Paradise airport South of Oklahoma City, is a company that does a lot ofprop work. They havea lot of wood "lasts" (I think that is the correct term forthe model used as a template) for props. Very interesting. I bought my Beechcraft215 electric prop from the old man who had established the company. Hisson ran it when I bought my prop.Blue Skies and admiration for prop makers. ,Steve D. ----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: Dave and Connie