Original Posted By: "Jack T. Textor"
Re fitting nut plates in various places in my Piet, I have used a lay up offibre glass with great success.The aim is to have a means to prevent the nut plate from pulling thru thewood & to prevent any movement of the nut plate and also not to degrade thewood fibres in any wayMy method is to lay up several layers of fine cloth to make a thickness ofabout .070 or 2MM on a sheet of glass, an area of 6 square inches will makesufficient for the whole project.When this has cured, cut into strips slightly wider than the nut plate &length to suitDrill hole one size larger than the screw or bolt diameter, attach the nutplate to the fiber glass then drill the small holes which mount the nutplate.Counter sink these holes to allow a small alloy rivet to fit flush with theshiny surface.Then rivet the glass to the back of the nut plate.using small countersunkalloy rivets.Then drill the wood to the exact size of he bolt , finally use a bead ofglue around the edges of the glass strip (Araldite is fine) take care not toget glue near the nut plateThis works really well with the floating type of plates which will selfalign thru the enlarged holeThis was used to anchor the bolts on the tail plane & also to mount theaileron hinges.If this is hard to understand I could try to take pics of the whole thing.Regards Graham Hewitt________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web DesignDate: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:52:27 -0600
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Original Posted By: "chase143"
I knew Al when I was a teenager. My Dad and I used to go to his barn on occasion just to visit. He was a nice man. I remember propellers all over his barn and he gave me a booklet he wrote about Der Fledermaus (I still have the booklet). It was a low, polyhedral wing with a 1600 cc VW, if I remember correctly. Single place and looked a bit like a baby T-18.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Dec 22, 2009, at 8:39 AM, tbyh(at)aol.com wrote:> Just a note to point out that it was E. Alvin Schubert (not "Shuster) who wrote "How I Make Propellers." His first name was actually Edward, but he always went by Al or Alvin. I grew up in the town where Al lived -- Trempealeau, WI, which is about halfway between La Crosse, WI, and Winona, MN, along the Mississippi River.> > Al was a very bright man and although he was valedictorian of his high school class (among his "tinkerings" as a teen-ager in the 1930s he built a generator and wired his folks house) he never got to go to college. I always wondered how far Al would have gone had he had that opportunity. I'm willing to bet that he would have been one of the fellows working on the Manhattan Project or the B-29 and later the space program. He was very good at math and designed and built his own airplane and, as you all know, propellers. He also advised and made a couple propellers for Bernard for his Corvair-powered job -- one of which Bernard called the best propeller he ever had. I don't know, but it's possible that prop is flying yet today on "The Last Original."> > Alvin passed away about 10 years ago and our EAA Chapter still misses him very much. Al had a homegrown wisdom that was very much in keeping with Bernard Pietenpol and the fellows of that era. And, by the way, Al apparently planned (or at least considered) to build a Pietenpol because at his estate sale I purchased the Air Camper plans that Al had purchased from Bernard in the 1960s (and one of Al's propellers that he had carved for his own VW-powered "Der Fledermaus" airplane). I am using those plans to build my Air Camper...someday it will fly! (Right now the fuselage and tail feathers are in the basement along with a "pile" of other parts including a set of Charlie Rubeck wing ribs!)> > Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, everyone! > > Fred B.> La Crosse, WI > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
I knew Al when I was a teenager. My Dad and I used to go to his barn on occasion just to visit. He was a nice man. I remember propellers all over his barn and he gave me a booklet he wrote about Der Fledermaus (I still have the booklet). It was a low, polyhedral wing with a 1600 cc VW, if I remember correctly. Single place and looked a bit like a baby T-18.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Dec 22, 2009, at 8:39 AM, tbyh(at)aol.com wrote:> Just a note to point out that it was E. Alvin Schubert (not "Shuster) who wrote "How I Make Propellers." His first name was actually Edward, but he always went by Al or Alvin. I grew up in the town where Al lived -- Trempealeau, WI, which is about halfway between La Crosse, WI, and Winona, MN, along the Mississippi River.> > Al was a very bright man and although he was valedictorian of his high school class (among his "tinkerings" as a teen-ager in the 1930s he built a generator and wired his folks house) he never got to go to college. I always wondered how far Al would have gone had he had that opportunity. I'm willing to bet that he would have been one of the fellows working on the Manhattan Project or the B-29 and later the space program. He was very good at math and designed and built his own airplane and, as you all know, propellers. He also advised and made a couple propellers for Bernard for his Corvair-powered job -- one of which Bernard called the best propeller he ever had. I don't know, but it's possible that prop is flying yet today on "The Last Original."> > Alvin passed away about 10 years ago and our EAA Chapter still misses him very much. Al had a homegrown wisdom that was very much in keeping with Bernard Pietenpol and the fellows of that era. And, by the way, Al apparently planned (or at least considered) to build a Pietenpol because at his estate sale I purchased the Air Camper plans that Al had purchased from Bernard in the 1960s (and one of Al's propellers that he had carved for his own VW-powered "Der Fledermaus" airplane). I am using those plans to build my Air Camper...someday it will fly! (Right now the fuselage and tail feathers are in the basement along with a "pile" of other parts including a set of Charlie Rubeck wing ribs!)> > Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, everyone! > > Fred B.> La Crosse, WI > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Original Posted By: Wayne Bressler
Hello Jack,I'm no IT expert, but I manage several websites (pro bono) for friends, church, sports team, etc. Most hosting companies offer the templated sites, and software with price of hosting, and all very easy to use (yes, go daddy, being one). Often using a secondary software is more trouble then it's worth (the simpler the better for me too), so I would recommend bundling the service! I've found www.networksolutions.com to be a little superior to go daddy for several reasons: about the same price, but more of a professional approach, much easier to set up and maintain a site, far less advertising, easier picture management. No sales pitch here, just my 2C.If I can be of any help at all, feel free to contact me off-line.SteveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hello Jack,I'm no IT expert, but I manage several websites (pro bono) for friends, church, sports team, etc. Most hosting companies offer the templated sites, and software with price of hosting, and all very easy to use (yes, go daddy, being one). Often using a secondary software is more trouble then it's worth (the simpler the better for me too), so I would recommend bundling the service! I've found www.networksolutions.com to be a little superior to go daddy for several reasons: about the same price, but more of a professional approach, much easier to set up and maintain a site, far less advertising, easier picture management. No sales pitch here, just my 2C.If I can be of any help at all, feel free to contact me off-line.SteveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "ivan.todorovic"
Jack,What exactly are you trying to change?I don't see any problem with using FrontPage. If you're keeping the site simple, you should be able to do things pretty easily using FrontPage.I use Microsoft Expressions which replaced FrontPage.Let me know more specifically what you're trying to do, and might be able to help get you set up.Have you considering making the site like a blog? Wordpress is a great open-source program that is very flexible.Wayne Bressler Jr.wayne(at)taildraggersinc.comTaildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.comSent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Jack,What exactly are you trying to change?I don't see any problem with using FrontPage. If you're keeping the site simple, you should be able to do things pretty easily using FrontPage.I use Microsoft Expressions which replaced FrontPage.Let me know more specifically what you're trying to do, and might be able to help get you set up.Have you considering making the site like a blog? Wordpress is a great open-source program that is very flexible.Wayne Bressler Jr.wayne(at)taildraggersinc.comTaildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.comSent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Jack,As Wayne said, it is not obvious what you are trying to achieve. Front Page isoutdated, but replacing it won't make your photos load faster. If you are tryingto reduce traffic generated on your site, the best way to do that is to resizeevery single photo, you are looking at few hours of work in front of you.This will have an side-effect that photos will load faster as well.Best software to do this job is Adobe Photoshop, but it costs several hundreds US$. Best free software capable of doing it with good results is Gimp, http://www.gimp.org/ .Ivan.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:49:55 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Jack,As Wayne said, it is not obvious what you are trying to achieve. Front Page isoutdated, but replacing it won't make your photos load faster. If you are tryingto reduce traffic generated on your site, the best way to do that is to resizeevery single photo, you are looking at few hours of work in front of you.This will have an side-effect that photos will load faster as well.Best software to do this job is Adobe Photoshop, but it costs several hundreds US$. Best free software capable of doing it with good results is Gimp, http://www.gimp.org/ .Ivan.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:49:55 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
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Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Ryan Mueller wrote:> ... If all you are doing is resizing images, maybe cropping some (light editing),then there is no need for tools such as Photoshop or GIMP: that's swattinga fly with a sledgehammer. I would recommend a small, free program called Irfanview...Well, on this list we have to be opinionated about everything :-)I would not call these tools sledgehammers, there is a reason people use it. IfJack managed to make his whole site, he is more than capable to learn them quickly,and they can do things in a way Jack may yet to discover and find useful.Although I agree NVU is good idea as alternative to Front Page.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Ryan Mueller wrote:> ... If all you are doing is resizing images, maybe cropping some (light editing),then there is no need for tools such as Photoshop or GIMP: that's swattinga fly with a sledgehammer. I would recommend a small, free program called Irfanview...Well, on this list we have to be opinionated about everything :-)I would not call these tools sledgehammers, there is a reason people use it. IfJack managed to make his whole site, he is more than capable to learn them quickly,and they can do things in a way Jack may yet to discover and find useful.Although I agree NVU is good idea as alternative to Front Page.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Web Design
Pietenpol-List: Re: Re fitting nut plates
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Ivan,Sure, we're all entitled to our opinions here, but I think you missed Ryan's point,which stated specifically "If all you are doing is resizing images, maybecropping some (light editing)...".Photoshop is a great tool, and packed with all sorts of features that Jack (oranyone else) might find useful ... BUT if the only thing you need to do is resizeor crop some photos, then spending a few hundred dollars on Photoshop wouldbe akin to using the proverbial sledgehammer on the proverbial fly. It is amuch bigger tool than is necessary to get the (very simple) job done.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re fitting nut plates
Ivan,Sure, we're all entitled to our opinions here, but I think you missed Ryan's point,which stated specifically "If all you are doing is resizing images, maybecropping some (light editing)...".Photoshop is a great tool, and packed with all sorts of features that Jack (oranyone else) might find useful ... BUT if the only thing you need to do is resizeor crop some photos, then spending a few hundred dollars on Photoshop wouldbe akin to using the proverbial sledgehammer on the proverbial fly. It is amuch bigger tool than is necessary to get the (very simple) job done.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re fitting nut plates
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Not to be a Smart-Alec, but why don't you just put a dab of glue on the tabs ofthe nut plate?Your method seems like a lot of extra work, with basically the same net result.All the fiberglass plate gives you is a little more surface area for the glue.When attaching the nutplates for my empennage hinges, I used two tiny little brassscrews (#0 x 1/4" long, I believe) to secure them, and also carefully appliedepoxy. The epoxy is probably overkill, but I won't have any worries aboutthe screws coming loose. I am NOT concerned about the penetration of the littlewood screws. Then again, I also wouldn't be worried about the use of Tee nutseither. The advantage of nutplates is that the hole in the wood is only thesize of the bolt, whereas with a Tee nut, the hole in the wood needs to be bigger,since the threaded portion of the nut is embedded in the wood.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aw_n ... __________
Not to be a Smart-Alec, but why don't you just put a dab of glue on the tabs ofthe nut plate?Your method seems like a lot of extra work, with basically the same net result.All the fiberglass plate gives you is a little more surface area for the glue.When attaching the nutplates for my empennage hinges, I used two tiny little brassscrews (#0 x 1/4" long, I believe) to secure them, and also carefully appliedepoxy. The epoxy is probably overkill, but I won't have any worries aboutthe screws coming loose. I am NOT concerned about the penetration of the littlewood screws. Then again, I also wouldn't be worried about the use of Tee nutseither. The advantage of nutplates is that the hole in the wood is only thesize of the bolt, whereas with a Tee nut, the hole in the wood needs to be bigger,since the threaded portion of the nut is embedded in the wood.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aw_n ... __________