Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "bubbleboy"
Just compare prices too. When I ordered, Wicks was double the cost. Not sure why.Scotty :?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper build in Australia

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Hi all...just a quick intro. Just starting an Air Camper build in Australia. Havea little web site going. www.scottyspietenpol.com--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
We had one of the NASA test pilots who first flew the space shuttle atEdwards (before they ever launched one) speak at our EAA cahpter a couple ofyears ago. He said that what they developed to use to teach astronauts howto glide the shuttle was a G-4 Gulfstream with the thrust reversers on atfull throttle! That gave a realistic simulation of the space shuttle'sglide ratio. I figured they could do the same thing and save a lot of moneyby just training the astronauts in a Pietenpol.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____

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Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper build in Australia

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Prepping seemed prudent given that I'd never flown a taildragger:).The four different aircraft and 8 total hours of taildragger time accumulated priorto the 1st flight served me well. The first flight was an anti-climax -a tribute to the design.Take care,KevinRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "Graham Hansen"
Have any of you flown a Tri-ppacer enough to compare it's glide to a GN-1? that'sone that was always made fun of but I rally enjoyed it's ability to lug itselfoff the ground with a load and get back down without a lot of float. I'm hopingthe GN-1 will behave similar. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "Dave Abramson"
Hi Rick....not many Corvairs here in OZ! I had to get my block from the USA. Howis your Corvair running?Scotty--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper build in Australia

Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
sounds like it needs that attitude to maintain level flight. the wing naturallyhas to be at a certain angle of attack at a given weight and speed.are you holdingany forward stick pressure? might be possible to raise the leading edgeof the horizontal stabilizer a little to reduce the down elevator and clean itup a little but probably wouldn't gain much unless you're maintaining pressureon the stick or have a trim tab doing it. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:39:49 -0500

Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Hi scottGreat to see another Piet in OZ I am looking forward to the day we all have themfinished and have a flyin of our own.I am just north of Brisbane but I come from down your way, near Scone I often pass through Tamworth on my way home to see the folks.Also I brought all my spruce from a guy in Newcastle well priced great qualityand will save you a lot on shipping.Email me if you like carsonvella(at)yahoo.com.au I have tail,fuse,gear one half of wing done and currently working on the other.CarsonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:57:21 -0500

Original Posted By: "Ben Charvet"
Hi Ben,NX18235 needed a substantial amount of back pressure to maintain level flight on it's first flights. On close inspection it was discovered that the elevators were rigged slightly uneven.Adjusting the cables to even out the elevators removed most of the nose-down tendencies.Lowering the front edge of the stabilizer using cable tension took care of the rest.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "bubbleboy"
Some aircraft have a downward-lifting tail, since there's generally a downward force on the tail except during take-off.David Paule>> Has anyone ever tried a lifting airfoil for the tail? I did this for many> of my RC's and it helped a bunch. The tail would come up faster and it> seemed to improve the pitch control.> Jack________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper build in Australia

Original Posted By: "skellytown flyer"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator droop in level flight?> > the Fleet Bi-plane that is about 20 miles from here has a upward lifting tail.(Ithink)I don't think they were a very popular idea. probably because > if it lost lift you could drop the tail causing the wing to stall > quickly.seems like they said it could be very interesting to land. > they put it over on it's back last year and have not got it re-> built yet.but I think it was because they switched to disc brakes > and probably got to heavy footed. Raymond> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 897#289897> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator droop in level flight?

Original Posted By: "bubbleboy"
Hi Rick...loved the video. Got me dreaming!Yes I have heard of Brodhead. Would love to get there one day. I am a Kiwi actuallyand been in OZ for 15 years now.--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper build in Australia

Original Posted By: "bubbleboy"
Hi Rick...yes I have heard of Brodhead. Would love to get there one day.I am actually a Kiwi originally but moved to OZ 15 years ago.Loved the video!--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Air Camper build in Australia

Original Posted By: "skellytown flyer"
Hi Carson...will email you!--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator droop in level flight?

Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB"
the Fleet Bi-plane that is about 20 miles from here has a upward lifting tail.(Ithink)I don't think they were a very popular idea. probably because if it lostlift you could drop the tail causing the wing to stall quickly.seems like theysaid it could be very interesting to land. they put it over on it's back lastyear and have not got it re-built yet.but I think it was because they switchedto disc brakes and probably got to heavy footed. RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: skellytown flyer
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Elevator droop in level flight?It is my understanding that some planes used an upside down tail airfoil, Withaerodynamic "Lift" going down in such a way that if the tail stalled (Upward)then the nose dropped, keeping the plane flying. At least it flew to the groundwith out the main wing stalling. This makes sense until I think of hte plane being nose high with the tail airfoilat a "reverse" position to the wind. Blue Skies,Steve D----- Original Message -----