Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "VanDy"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: one man's suggestion for not bending any tubingRichard,I ended up simply sticking a piece of =BC" stainless steel tubing thru a hole in the leading edge of my wing and connectingit inside the wing with poly tubing and fittings from Wicks sold for the purpose of being used in routing airspeed andpitot/static lines. Don't bother running static lines-you don't need them in an open cockpit airplane. Just plug theASI and altimeter static ports with a pipe plug and drill a tiny hole in the plug to let the instrument vent slightly. Whala.Also to hide my air speed line coming down from the inside of the wing I just ran it down the inside of the right rear cabanestrut into the instrument panel bay.We don't need to bend no stinkin'g tubing !!! We ain't got no stinking tubing.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Handheld GPS

Original Posted By: "coxwelljon"
So I'm going to buy a Garmin GPSMAP 96 (black and white) and just curious as towhat everyone else uses. I have a Garmin 92, but its a little outdated, andthe 96 seems to be better but equivalent in weight and size. I learned to navigateby map, but its nice to have the GPS for when night fall or the gas levelgets low! the only electronics I plan on running is for coms between seats,and a battery powered GPS for standby. Stuff like that does come in Handy!!!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: GN-1 cabane length

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
timothywillis(at)earthlin wrote:> Tom, isn't the "standard" to build with the aft cabanes 1" shorter?> Tim in central TX> > > --Tim,I think that is the norm for the Piet. but the GN-1 has the spars relocated andthus the attachment hardware relocated, and with the larger radius leading edgewhich adjusts the leading edge end of the mean aerodynamic chord upward. Allof these slight changes add up to 3/8" less on the GN-1. Perhaps I am splittingtoo many hairs here and the actual angle of incidence may not be that critical.Maybe several with flying GN-1's could chime in here.Jon in central NY--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "VanDy"
I use a sectional, a compass and a clock. No worries.I have yet to experience a "Low Signal Strength" or "Low Battery" with a sectional.My teenagers might tell you I'm old-school because I'm too thick headed to learn how to program a GPS.......Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a serious response: Handheld GPS> > I'm not flying my Piet yet (nowhere close), but I have, and intend to use, aGarmin GPSMAP 195 and an Icom IC-A22 NAVCOM. Of course > I won't need the GPS unless I'm flying cross country. Even then I > don't NEED it, but it sure is nice to just fly direct, following > the CDI. As for the radio, it is such a small package, and offers > so much added safety that I can't really consider NOT using it. I > also hope to teach my son to fly in the Piet... so he will need to > learn to use the radio, and I'm sure we will appreciate the intercom.> > I have a great view of the approach to rwy 17 from my hangar, > where I see non-radio guys cutting off people on final all the > time. I'm not trying to include everyone in that comment. Heck, > there may be days that I just want to fly around the patch without > my headset on, but just yesterday I saw one of our breezy fliers > cut off two aircraft (at different times) that were well > established on final. For starters he took the active and > departed in front of one, and later he flew a short pattern and > turned final right in front of another that was already > established on final and was flying a proper pattern. I know all > of the people involved and I imagine Mr. Breezy will hear about > it. I'm aware that these things just happen occasionally, but we > have students flying at our field, and I regularly see people stop > by that are not from our field (for fuel, visit, etc.) and they > probably don't know (nor do they expect to see) Mr. Breezy cutting > in underneath them. We all need to !> work on our scan to be safe, but I also think this particular > pilot's vision may improve if he had something on his ears. > > Anyhow, I'm not trying to rant as much as I am trying to promote a > couple of useful widgets. Especially the radio. As stated above, > the IC-A22 is a NAVCOM, so I could navigate with it using VOR > stations, which is actually pretty fun. A lot of bang for the > buck in a modern day handheld.> > --------> Mark - working on wings> > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 915#290915> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Jim Ash
What's GPS?Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio _________________________________________________________________Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:23:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Handheld GPSWhat's GPS?Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow OhioDoug-that stands for getting pretty stupid:)________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Thomas Bernie
Subject: Pietenpol-List: a serious response: Handheld GPSI use a simple Garmin Pilot III GPS since it doesn't draw enough current to warrantasupplemental battery like the larger and/or color screens do. I'm old school too Greg for the most part with regard to things like GPS and cellphones. (use a Tracphone only when necessary) I've always been a hold out on things likegettinganswering machines, gps, and cell phones. For many years I went everywhere NORDO but finally broke down and bought a handheldIcom A-4mostly to just hear where the other guys in the pattern are. I usually just announcemyarrival with a few puffs of smoke. Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: GN-1 cabane length

Original Posted By:>> Thomas Bernie
Tim,I think 1" has been working out about right for Piet guys. The GN-1 is sort ofa different animal -- the plans, depending on which ones you have, all give differentlengths that result in insufficient, or negative a.o.i. The way thespars and fittings are configured (i.e. equal height at the spar attach fittingsdoes not give you zero a.o.i.). This has come up a couple of times amongGN-1 builders in the past -- but no consensus. We know the plans give a crappyresult, so every man for himself.Regards,TomOn Mar 18, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Tim Willis wrote:> > Tom, isn't the "standard" to build with the aft cabanes 1" shorter?> Tim in central TX> > > -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
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Original Posted By: "skellytown flyer"
Just something to think about. The more systems you have the more preceived problems you have to solve. How much redundantcy do you really need on a simple plane and when does that plane become complicated?JMHO if you have an electronic fuel gauge that is backup for a stick fuel tester watch and the knowlege of your fuel burn per hour plus reserve. The best backup fuel guage would be a sight glass. I am not trying to start anything just start a thought process."Trusting any fuel gauge should only be done in the pattern for dead stick practice"Bryan GreenElgin SC----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
at7000ft wrote:> I have a copy of the newer CAD version of the GN-1 plans, the bottom> bolt to top bolt centerline measurements are 23 1/4" front and 23 1/2"> rear.> > rick> > Rick and others,It looks like the concensus for Piet plans is 1" longer for the front. I willhave to do some looking at my Piet plans (I have both Piet and GN-1 drawings)and see what 1" does as far as the angle of incidence. I will report back. Seemslike with a few GN-1 builders out there it would be good to settle this asthere is no support from Don Grega.--------Jon Coxwell GN-1 BuilderRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________