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Pietenpol-List: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:07 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "pflyboy"
If your drill guide is 50 years old, it was probably made in America. How canyou get better than that?Jeff WilsonN899WT________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Terry Burtz Model A
Re: Pietenpol-List: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:55 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Great pictures Rick! These are the kind of pictures we all need to post more often.This way people can see how we do things not just how they look when finished.I used to be so afraid of drilling holes that I didn't do it for a longtime. Pictures like these would have been invaluable to me when I started this3 year project 8 years ago. I also drilled the holes for my wing strut fittings by hand but did it slightlydifferent than you did. I only drill holes in one of the fittings then use thisas a guide to drill the holes in the spar (or what ever you are drilling).Then I clamped on the back fitting and use the newly drilled holes in the sparas a guide (with the brass tubing protecting the hole) to drill the holes inthe back fitting. Note, do not cut the back fitting to final size until afterdrilling all the holes. (learned the hard way)As an example, here is a shot of me drilling the inner fitting on the landing gear.( I guess need to upload some pictures of me drilling the other wing fittings.)
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Con ... 656.JPGAnd here is how I drilled the center fitting for the 3-piece wing.
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:53 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Actually, Terry has a mailing list you can join and get monthly updates. Rightnow, I think he's in the pre-casting stage!The ONLY thing keeping me from building a Piet is the lack of Model A power.I guess we really have to wait for the final power graphs. It would be nice ifit puts out at least 70 hp at a suitable prop RPM. If that was the case, couldn't we go direct drive and govern the RPM? The throttlecould be pushed forward to maintain RPM as altitude goes up...?NickRead this topic online here:
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:21 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "David Paule"
What I meant was, this new design model A is supposed to put out 158 hp at 5000RPM. That's way too much RPM, so unless it also puts out an acceptable HP ata decent prop RPM, say 2200-2400, a gearbox would be necessary to take full advantageof the power.Read this topic online here:
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:45 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Pieti Lowell"
Okay, okay, so you got me [Laughing] Actually, I once had a Piet fuselage thatwas going to be corvair powered, but sold it so I could focus on other things.There are zillions of other options, but I just LOVE that Model A 8)Read this topic online here:
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:32 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "regchief"
Have you heard of the Donovan " D ".with an Al. block 5 mains etc.Or have you seen a Ford " B ' with inserts, Hi pressure oil,forged balanced crank,Funk head 6.25:1 Ratio,aluminum rods, swinging a 76X56 Prop at 2250, directdrive, and not to mention fuel injected, Any one want a ride in a short Pietenpol with over 80 HP ?And by the way this Piet has been flying with a 612 Riblitt clipped wing since2004,Give me a call or show up at Palmyra Airport, if you dare .Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:46 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
I would like a peek at your piet someday Rick. I am the other side of you, downin PueblowestRead this topic online here:
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:20 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Pieti Lowell"
and don't forget the helium to compensate for the addedweight of the supercondomexplicatorvibratorialejaculator.I understand that vocal communication is better understoodin the higher frequencies. The helium should help withthat too.Clif>> Oh wow, I had forgotten about that. The floatation solution was right in> front of my nose. It'll be even easier to stuff the wings with 'em, since > I> have a fly-by-wire control system and only have to deal with a couple of> shielded 250-conductor cables and quadruple-redundant hydraulic lines > going> out to the actuators, instead of those pesky, antiquated steel aileron> cables.>> Mike Whaley> MerlinFAC(at)cfl.rr.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:49 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Jeff,I have been to all the Piet fly-ins since the conception, and I do not intend tomiss the next , Of course it all depends on ,will I still be kicking the rudderbar. My track record is being marred by extenuating circumstances. Wouldyou like to take an introductory course in added Ford power? She doesn't snapyour head back, with two people but she goes well. Not like my Werner 145 andthere are a good number of more powerful engines on Piets. But the Ford is stilldoing it's job since 1989, with no problems, except a bent prop and crank extension.We ( Blue Piet ) and Lowell are looking forward to seeing all the group this comingsummer.Pieti Lowell -- "Now let's think about this..."[/quote]Read this topic online here:
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Terry Burtz Model A
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:23 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: santiago morete
RE: Pietenpol-List: Model A carburetor
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:17 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: V Groah
I had one on a 1968 Harley Sportster. Kick start only. It was good in that application. It was a magneto system with no battery. Similar to our Piets in that respect. Jeff WilsonN899WT________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Model A carburetor
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:02 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: moretesantiago(at)yahoo.com.ar
I run one on my 31 Ford car. Runs good. Will make 75 mph in high overdrive with an otherwise tired stock engine. It does have the mixture control as do all A carbs. I do not know how it would compare to the 1932 B carb. I know the manifolds are larger on the B. Some of the A guys machine out the inside of the A manifold to make better flow. Vic Groah NX414MV Date: Thu=2C 22 Apr 2010 11:23:15 -0700