Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Hello guys.. First post here.I am trying to get back into flying after a 7 yearslump.. I have totally fell in love with the nostalgia, simplicity, afforadbillityof the air camper. My BIG problem is I dont have much time at all to build..Does anyone have a flying one or a project for sale?? Eather way could getme there faster.. Regards, chad.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:21:15 -0500

Original Posted By: "taildragger21"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Looking for a piet.used to be a sky scout on there too. I kinda had my eye on it, but never could find the extra dough to buy it. It was owned by a fellow in Florida I think named Brian Kraut (ya'll correct me) It was a completed plane, that I think had some issues with the 2.2 Chrysler engine installed. Asking price was like $3700 I think.Boyce________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Thanks for the replies guys. I am in ky.. I saw those on barnstormers. I have searchedthe net high and low.. I found a "project" for 6k that had a cont a65on it but has been setting unused for at least 10 years.. I personally am scaredof those being more trouble and money than just building one.. I would alsorather have an a65-0200 rather than the model a engine.. Saw the bumped up oneon barnstormers. Man that guy has had bad luck.. [Laughing] Thanks!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: "taildragger21"
This one might still be for sale. New ceconite/top overhaul '07. Asking 10.5k lasttime I checked. Call him and see if it's not sold yet.. Henry 740-269-1194Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/n884 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: "taildragger21"
Also an unfinished project would be ideal if not a flying one..Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Wow thanks!! Thats nice!! I will call and see later. Thanks, chad.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:45:34 -0500

Original Posted By: shad bell

Original Posted By: shad bell
If that is clever field, it's a very old picture, the hangar has not looked like that for at least 10 years, when I moved up here.Maybe he managed to mount the engine upside down somehow? :)Kip GardnerOn Aug 24, 2010, at 2:10 PM, shad bell wrote:> Is that harry clever field in New Philadelphia Ohio??? > > Shad> > > For what it's worth, that's a GN-1 with a... a... what the heck engine > is that?!?? The exhaust ports are on top of the cylinders. Maybe it's > a GPU. Looks like the builder got tired and didn't bother to put the > wingtip bows on. But, he did a good job on the paint.> > > On 08/24/2010 12:14 PM, TriScout wrote:> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "TriScout"> >> > This one might still be for sale. New ceconite/top overhaul '07. Asking 10.5k last time I checked. Call him and see if it's not sold yet.. Henry 740-269-1194> >> >> >> >> > Read this topic online here:> >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 011#310011> >> >> >> >> > Attachments:> >> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/n8846_451.jpg> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Dan Yocum> Fermilab 630.840.6509> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov> "I fly because it releases my mind from the t - The Pietenpol-List Email ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List" target=_blank>http://www.matro/forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com> Thank you for your generous nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:31:35 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: "TriScout"
You are close, Adrian... S4S means Surfaced 4 Sides. The surfacing is normallydone with planers and edgers, not sanding machines. Planers and edgers usecutting blades which provide a suitable surface finish and last a lot longer ina production setting than abrasives would, and the wood does not need to beas smooth as if it were sanded. Interior grade and aircraft grade plywood AREsanded, though.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
According to the log book the engine is an A65-3, I think they came on some pre-warChief's. Ed and I stopped at New Philly on the way back from the AllianceT-Craft fly in to look at this Piet(GN-1) for a friend. The plane has a goodgeneral appearance, and paint job. It has steel tube tail feathers. The planehas some issues. The biggest is since it is a Grega the back pit is smaller thana Piet and this one has real thick foam in the seat back. Ed got in the pitand it fit perfect, Ed is 5'3" and 135lbs. The Ailerons are warped and will needat least recovering and maybe remade. One big red flag is the inside of thefuse is painted black, so you can't get a good look at the wood or joints.This plane does have potential, but you need to look at it real close and knowit needs some work.Skip----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "taildragger21"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Maule tail wheel mountingI have a Maule tail wheel, recently acquired piece and am really not certain how the spring mounting is built and connected to the fuse. Anyone haveany fitting or mounting drawings or location information pics or advice they are willing to offer so I can get it mounted properly?I am slowly moving towards getting her up on her wheels and would like to have that phase completed before moving into 2010 and 2011 Buildapalooza in December.Please adviseThanksJohn________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
skip.. Thanks for the info! This makes me curious now.. I was about to drive 7hours one way to look at this.. Pictures always make things look better I guess:( .. Should I reconsider driving up??Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
I'd appreciate the same info for the same reason. Thanks!KIp GardnerOn Aug 26, 2010, at 9:00 AM, AMsafetyC(at)aol.com wrote:> I have a Maule tail wheel, recently acquired piece and am really not certain how the spring mounting is built and connected to the fuse. Anyone have any fitting or mounting drawings or location information pics or advice they are willing to offer so I can get it mounted properly?> > I am slowly moving towards getting her up on her wheels and would like to have that phase completed before moving into 2010 and 2011 Buildapalooza in December.> > Please advise> > Thanks> > John> > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "taildragger21"
It's only an excessive amount of power if you open the throttle all the way, andnobody said you need to open the throttle all the way all the time. Extra poweris nice to have when you need it!--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Any more opinions on this plane?? It is a LONG drive..LOLRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: airlion
When I bought my Piet a couple of months ago there was also another one for salein Collinsville, OK. I didn't get any pictures of it or any details. Ibelieve it was Corvair powered and it could be a GN1. I really don't rememberthe details but it might be worth a phone call for details and pictures.--------Dan PlettRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sam_ ... ______Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:03:33 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I'm getting 28.75" between the centerline of both 3/4" spars and 28" from the rearedge of the front spar to the front edge of the rear spar.yocum137(at)gmail.com wrote:> I disagree. I think 29" on-center is a better dimension. > -- > Dan Yocum> yocum137(at)gmail.com> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."> > On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:> > > > > > > > The 27 3/4 is the important dimension. Go ahead and use it!> > > > Ryan> > > > Sent from my iPhone> > > > On Aug 28, 2010, at 4:35 PM, JGriff wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > I received my plans and am about to construct my rib jig on 3/4" MDF. I didn'tgive much thought to using the supplied rib drawing and instead was goingto plot out the shape because so many posts in the archive say not to use itsince the drawing is off due to the xerox reproduction. I just double checkedthe drawing and it seems pretty accurate. The chord is 58" which I assume iscorrect because it doesn't include the leading or trailing edge. Also the 27 3/4inch dim given between the spars is spot on. Has the drawing improved fromyears past? I'm thinking of using it - has anyone else used it instead of plottingit out?> > > Thanks.> > > Jamie> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 413#310413> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: airlion
Since Dan brought it up, I'll provide what details I can on Roger White's airplane.I have been hesitant on offering this info, but I spoke to him Friday nightand he said he wouldn't mind me posting some information here. Roger completed "Precious Pete" in 1996. While it's not an exact Pietenpol reproduction,it apparently flies real good according to those who have flown itand it looks neat. If I remember correctly, he has a long steel tube fuse, metalempennage, a single point wing attach (rather than the pair of cabanes shownin the plans), steel gear and a Continental A-65 with metal prop for power.I don't know much more on the specifics other than I think he was asking $15,000.That may be negotiable, not sure what he would take. For those that don't know Roger White... he is a master homebuilder (EAA #41) withseveral aircraft to his credit and a super nice guy. He has built severaltypes, such as the Wittman Tailwind, Cassut Racer and a Glassair to name a few...he is currently working on a Corvair powered Bolkow Junior. Jim Ballew is a good friend of Roger's that lives on the same field... he alsofrequents the boards here. Perhaps he can offer more details or clarification.--------Mark ChouinardWings and Center Section framed up - Working on EmpannageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p926 ... ______Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:27:40 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Yep. Sounds about right. If you want, split the difference and move each one apart1/8" to get the 29" on-center measurement. N8031 is 29" OC and it flies justfine. Dan-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 29, 2010, at 5:10 PM, JGriff wrote:> > I'm getting 28.75" between the centerline of both 3/4" spars and 28" from therear edge of the front spar to the front edge of the rear spar.> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a piet

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
No, no. That's not the one I was talking about. That looks more like a Piet thanthe one I'm talking about - Roger's plane looks pretty nice, actually. I likethe cowling and the combing is the smoothest I've ever seen. -- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 29, 2010, at 6:12 PM, K5YAC wrote:> > Since Dan brought it up, I'll provide what details I can on Roger White's airplane.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 19:19:26 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib drawing

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib drawing

Original Posted By: shad bell