Original Posted By: "Peter Bichier"
I should have shirts available online in the next few days. I will be adding this and a couple other ideas. I will probably also update some of last year's stuff as well. Sorry for the shameless plug. -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2424 American Lane Madison, WI 53704 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email:=C2- jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com ==________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Flying on Labor Day?
Pietenpol-List: Flying on Labor Day?
Re: Pietenpol-List: CG for heavy pilots
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
The 1933 fuselage is 163" and the long fuse is 172 3/8". The long fuse moves the firewall forward 2", the rear seat back 2", and all the rest is behind the rear seat. If you are concerned about aft CG you are better off with the short fuselage (even if you are going to use a Corvair or O-200).rickOn Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:I'm on vacation this week, so I'm going on memory here - the long fuse adds most of the length in the nose, not the tail, so yes it'll help with a heavier guy like you. There's a limit to the amout you can shift the wing back to modify the CoG. I think I've read that some people have tilted the cabanes back by up to 4", but it looks a bit odd.Then again, the long nose on N8031 looks a bit odd too, so... Take yer pick of oddities.-;-)Dan--- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 29, 2010, at 6:57 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP wrote:Dan,-Then for a guy like me (who is 6'0 and 270 lb. mass of water, bones, and fat)-should-I then make my fuse longer to compensate for the heaviness of my weight? It is reasonable for one to figure out the CG by adding the engine weight, weight of pilot, weight of fuse on tail wheel, then-use that-number to see if you have enough wing movement aft for compensation? Has anyone figured out what modifications are needed to compensate for a heavier pilot say 270?KMH---- On Sun, 8/29/10, Dan Yocum wrote:
The 1933 fuselage is 163" and the long fuse is 172 3/8". The long fuse moves the firewall forward 2", the rear seat back 2", and all the rest is behind the rear seat. If you are concerned about aft CG you are better off with the short fuselage (even if you are going to use a Corvair or O-200).rickOn Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:I'm on vacation this week, so I'm going on memory here - the long fuse adds most of the length in the nose, not the tail, so yes it'll help with a heavier guy like you. There's a limit to the amout you can shift the wing back to modify the CoG. I think I've read that some people have tilted the cabanes back by up to 4", but it looks a bit odd.Then again, the long nose on N8031 looks a bit odd too, so... Take yer pick of oddities.-;-)Dan--- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Aug 29, 2010, at 6:57 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP wrote:Dan,-Then for a guy like me (who is 6'0 and 270 lb. mass of water, bones, and fat)-should-I then make my fuse longer to compensate for the heaviness of my weight? It is reasonable for one to figure out the CG by adding the engine weight, weight of pilot, weight of fuse on tail wheel, then-use that-number to see if you have enough wing movement aft for compensation? Has anyone figured out what modifications are needed to compensate for a heavier pilot say 270?KMH---- On Sun, 8/29/10, Dan Yocum wrote:
Pietenpol-List: Flying on Labor Day?
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying on Labor Day?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I'm planning to fly mine Labor Day, although I never heard of thistradition. I do always try to fly it on my birthday every year.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
I'm planning to fly mine Labor Day, although I never heard of thistradition. I do always try to fly it on my birthday every year.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Flying on Labor Day?
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Gents, Ladies?I guess I'll join the old? or new! tradition to fly the Piet on Labor Day. Goodto read some of the postings! I'm new, but 'me gusta volar el Pietenpol' (that'sthe only Spanish I was able to teach to my great instructor who taught mehow to fly the Piet; "I like to Fly the Piet.")So SERIOUSLY to the knowledge of this group, have ANY one, in the HISTORY of thePietenpol been checked out ie have done their checkride on the Piet to get theirticket?I guess Piet himself probably just taught himself how to fly, but any one else?on a 'formal' flight?Hope you can share what you know about it or what's your guesses.We are based in TDZ (Toledo, OH) and we are about a gang of 5 flying the Piet andfor some of us it's the only plane we've ever flown.I'd love to fly to Foggy Bottom, I just flew to 40I (Red Stewart 215 miles if youcan fly in a straight line) the old fashion way (few hours in my belt flyingit alone, no radios, no GPS, just a sectional) what a blast!hope to read some more,Peter BichierA blosoming Pietenpol pilot--------560 DreamerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 13:37:17 -0400
Gents, Ladies?I guess I'll join the old? or new! tradition to fly the Piet on Labor Day. Goodto read some of the postings! I'm new, but 'me gusta volar el Pietenpol' (that'sthe only Spanish I was able to teach to my great instructor who taught mehow to fly the Piet; "I like to Fly the Piet.")So SERIOUSLY to the knowledge of this group, have ANY one, in the HISTORY of thePietenpol been checked out ie have done their checkride on the Piet to get theirticket?I guess Piet himself probably just taught himself how to fly, but any one else?on a 'formal' flight?Hope you can share what you know about it or what's your guesses.We are based in TDZ (Toledo, OH) and we are about a gang of 5 flying the Piet andfor some of us it's the only plane we've ever flown.I'd love to fly to Foggy Bottom, I just flew to 40I (Red Stewart 215 miles if youcan fly in a straight line) the old fashion way (few hours in my belt flyingit alone, no radios, no GPS, just a sectional) what a blast!hope to read some more,Peter BichierA blosoming Pietenpol pilot--------560 DreamerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 13:37:17 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stits vs. Ceconite
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stits vs. Ceconite
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stits vs. Ceconite
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stits vs. Ceconite
Original Posted By:> Jeff Boatright
Latex gloves and nitrile gloves offer minimal protection againstabsorption of organic solvents such as MEK. Also canister type respiratorswith the charcoal filters are not effective. The charcoal media becomessaturated with solvent vapors quite quickly and then has no furtherprotection. The best protection against vapor inhalation is an external airsupply and a full face mask.Rick Schreiber> [Original Message]
Latex gloves and nitrile gloves offer minimal protection againstabsorption of organic solvents such as MEK. Also canister type respiratorswith the charcoal filters are not effective. The charcoal media becomessaturated with solvent vapors quite quickly and then has no furtherprotection. The best protection against vapor inhalation is an external airsupply and a full face mask.Rick Schreiber> [Original Message]
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stits vs. Ceconite
Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stits vs. Ceconite>>> Are latex gloves good enough for those solvents? I generally use > nitrile gloves in the lab and even speciality gloves when needs be. > Not dinging anyone, just genuinely curious.>> Jeff>>> >> >Hi Dave - I messed with Ceconite a tiny bit on another project and > >used Stitts to good effect on Fat Girl. The solvents in both > >systems require respectful handling. That really only involves a > >half-faced, air-purifying respirator from home depot/lowes with > >standard organic vapor filters. You also want to wear latex gloves. > >You really just want to keep it off of you with common-sense > >chemical handling techniques.> >> >I can't comment on the Stewart system because I know nothing about it.> >> >Adrian - pretty struts!> >> >Axel> >> >--------> >Kevin Purtee> >NX899KP> >Austin/Georgetown, TX>> -- > --->> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.> Associate Professor of Ophthalmology> Emory University School of Medicine> Editor-in-Chief> Molecular Vision>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Stits vs. Ceconite>>> Are latex gloves good enough for those solvents? I generally use > nitrile gloves in the lab and even speciality gloves when needs be. > Not dinging anyone, just genuinely curious.>> Jeff>>> >> >Hi Dave - I messed with Ceconite a tiny bit on another project and > >used Stitts to good effect on Fat Girl. The solvents in both > >systems require respectful handling. That really only involves a > >half-faced, air-purifying respirator from home depot/lowes with > >standard organic vapor filters. You also want to wear latex gloves. > >You really just want to keep it off of you with common-sense > >chemical handling techniques.> >> >I can't comment on the Stewart system because I know nothing about it.> >> >Adrian - pretty struts!> >> >Axel> >> >--------> >Kevin Purtee> >NX899KP> >Austin/Georgetown, TX>> -- > --->> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.> Associate Professor of Ophthalmology> Emory University School of Medicine> Editor-in-Chief> Molecular Vision>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT)