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Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:36 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Wildman"
Perhaps I shall give rides to those who ask this year. You all were new facesto me last time and I needed to meet you. Now that's over with, the fun shallbegin.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBroadhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Pietenpol-List: Re: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take off

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:18 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "coxwelljon"
Hi All!!Jack left today=2C the model of patience. He thought he was coming up here to cover a Pietenpol=2C but instead we spent the week finalizing a million things that I never got to. The biggest job was building the struts. Using Cub rear struts=2C we tried a few times to flatten the ends to my satisfaction. Then a trip to a machine shop to purchase thick 3 ince angle iron which Jack cut and bent to make a pair of dies (die?)=2C then modify them to screw to the vise and we had the perfect tool=2C after only a half day of messing around with it!As you saw in the photos Jack posted yesterday=2C we got it assembled and rigged and rolled outside. Today we removed the wing (one-piece wing=2C no small job!) and prepped it for cover=2C medical tape on edges=2C inter-rib bracing tape=2C etc. We just did get the fabric glued to the top of the wing before we had to shut down for the day=2C or until next week for me. I am using the Stewart system glue on the lightweight Ceconite=2C and I am putting dope on it. So far=2C the Stewart glue seems to be working like a charm.I have to run now=2C I'll post a couple of photos later. I cannot thank Jack enough.Gene ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Those Ruskies !! Using up ALL the runway to take off

Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:41 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Dan P"
Here=99s what you do: You go hang out at the local High School, and before they chase you away, you find a senior student who wants to do a senior report on experimental aviation. Then you tell him how much fun it is to build wing ribs, and that you=99ll buy him Diet Cokes if he builds you some ribs.=C2-=9CThat=99s how it=99s done, Son!=9D=C2-Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion,=C2-Running! Tail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear (21 ribs down) =C2-=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:42 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Dan P"
Got 4 ribs done so far. Kind of a slow process since I can only build 2 ribs eachweekend between baseball and basketball games, homework, and studying. Using this little 23ga pin nailer from Harbor Freight sure beats hand nailing thegussets in place. I'm going to try to talk Captain into doing some for meif I can get him to break away from his RV-9A. Captain said that we should be able to get the fuselage basically built over theChristmas break and then build the wing over Spring break. That would be waycool.--------TuckerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:50 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Wow!!! That looks really great.--------Dan PlettN28WHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:15 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "peterk48"
That IS a very nice Aerial! It will be interestingto hear how it flies. I've really never heard howthey fly and there aren't many of them out there.Now cover your ears if you don't want to hear this,but to my knowledge none of the Pietenpol family everhad any connection to Chad Wille's Aerial design andno one named Pietenpol has ever registered one, sothere is no such thing as a "Pietenpol Aerial". Thisone may be the first, if it is registered that way.As I understand the regulations, one may register anexperimental amateur-built aircraft with any name that onechooses. Thus, there could be a Rutan Air Camper, aPietenpol White Knight, or even such a hermaphroditeas an F-100 Van's Rans Zenith Aircamper ;o)Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:00 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Harvey Rule
taildrags wrote:> That IS a very nice Aerial! It will be interesting> to hear how it flies. I've really never heard how> they fly and there aren't many of them out there.> > Now cover your ears if you don't want to hear this,> but to my knowledge none of the Pietenpol family ever> had any connection to Chad Wille's Aerial design and> no one named Pietenpol has ever registered one, so> there is no such thing as a "Pietenpol Aerial". This> one may be the first, if it is registered that way.> > As I understand the regulations, one may register an> experimental amateur-built aircraft with any name that one> chooses. Thus, there could be a Rutan Air Camper, a> Pietenpol White Knight, or even such a hermaphrodite> as an F-100 Van's Rans Zenith Aircamper ;o)> > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio, TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.netIn light of your comments, its interesting that this one is registered as serial#1404.--------PeteRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:37 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Wildman"
Thanks very much to Oscar Zuniga for hooking me up with Scott who has sold me his mags and harnesses which I am hoping will work in my situation.I really appreciate the work you did there.People like Oscar and Scott are what makes this web page what it is=2Cnothing short of fantastic! > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:46 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jack"
I wasn't aware that there were no more listed as pietenpol Aerial. I know thefuselage is built from the original Pietenpol plans, I built it. I think is isa St. Croix conversion. I did how ever register it as a Pietenpol Aerial somaybe it is one of a kind in that repect.. If it is not truly a PietenpolI hope you all won't mind if I continue to visit and post on this forum. I thinkit is an incredible source of information and everyone here has been so niceto help me.Wade--------Pietenpol AerialRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:22 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
WadeOscar might want to cover his ears. [Wink] At Oshkosh Doc Mosher commented on the various design variations and changes tothe Pietenpol. Doc compared Piets to snow flakes. We all recognize a snowflake when we see it. No two are alike but they are still snow flakes. Itis easy to see the Pietenpol resemblance in your Aerial. Keep us updated on your progress.--------Dan PlettN28WHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:57:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

Pietenpol-List: Re: Slower than a Piet

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:57 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Pieti Lowell"
Dan wrote:>Oscar might want to cover his ears. [Wink] At Oshkosh Doc Mosher>commented on the various design variations and changes to>the Pietenpol. Doc compared Piets to snow flakes. We all>recognize a snowflake when we see it. No two are alike but>they are still snow flakes. It is easy to see the Pietenpol>resemblance in your Aerial. Keep us updated on your progress.Absolutely right! I think we all love this airplane and itsvarious nuances and versions and it's why we're here. By allmeans, let's hear about the airplane, how it flies, how itwas built, and especially let's see more pictures! Real curiousto know how it responds in yaw with that big round Pitts-styletail, too.As for Dan, he won't mind if I call GN-1s "Grega Cubs" since it'seasy to see the Cub resemblance in the wing struts and landinggear ;o)Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slower than a Piet

Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:21 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Dan P"
Unfortunately, Boeing surplus closed its brick and mortar facility in December2007. Their current outlet can be viewed at: https://active.boeing.com/assocproducts ... dex.cfmbut it's more auction based and not near as useful forbuilders as the old store was.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol Aerial almost done

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:33 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB"
taildrags wrote:> > > As for Dan, he won't mind if I call GN-1s "Grega Cubs" since it's> easy to see the Cub resemblance in the wing struts and landing> gear ;o)> > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio, TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.netNope Dan doesn't mind. In your world you can call it what ever you want.--------Dan PlettN28WHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List:

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:42 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: When my mother died an old indian friend told me "My mother died 30 years ago andI still miss her. It gets better but I think of her every day." This has provento be true for me. God BlessSteve DortchOn 10/04/10, Douwe Blumberg wrote:> Sorry about your loss John!> > > > > > > > > > > > My dad died three weeks ago, it’s kind of surreal still,> > as they’ve been there in the background of your entire life.> > > > > > > > > > > > Douwe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________