Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
The info below is pasted from the Poly Fiber FAQ section. While thiscertainly includes fabric, tapes etc, based on the now $70 or more pergallon price of Poly Fiber products, I'll bet it would come in "around"$1500, give or take.Of these systems, which is cheaper?How much will it cost to cover my plane?If you got a price quote on each of the three systems, you'd see that theyall total about the same. Only the cost per can is different. For instance,dope costs about $35.00 a gallon, Poly-Fiber is about $60.00 a gallon, butyou need twice as much dope as Poly-Fiber. The urethanes can get as high as$200.00 including catalyst and flex agents. Here you use fewer gallons, butat a much higher price.No matter which system you use, the final cost for the fabric, tapes,coatings and paint is about the same.Cub sized airplanes will cost $2,500 to $3,000, depending on the color youchoose.Ultralights run about $500 to $1,000 on average.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: bencharvet(at)gmail.com
We are using poly fiber and took the prices from aircraft spruce to our local airport parts guy. We asked if he could be competitive. He bid cheaper on every item and will pick up the shipping. You might try that. It will save a few bucks. VicDate: Thu=2C 3 Feb 2011 11:51:22 -0500

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I heartily concur with what has been mentioned earlier regarding shipping.Shipping really adds up over time to the point that it'll really surpriseyou. If you're wanting to be as frugal as possible, try hard to order largebatches of stuff at once, rather than two an3 bolts because you ran out, oranother quart of reducer, or six inches of hose, or, or , or, or. I'vefound it difficult, if not impossible for me (being a first time builder) topredict exactly what I'll need, so even though I try hard to get everythinginto a big order, I invariably items out which I then MUST have thefollowing week, making UPS my biggest fan.Finally getting some traction out here. Cowling and new grill coming alongnicely (will send pics when a bit further) and new wheels/brakes and landinggear almost done and working out very nicely. This is my third set ofwheels I've built, second one with brakes. First set had one wheels torquedin the accident, so new ones were in order. Because they're inconspicuous,I like a drum brake with the hub built internally into the wire wheel.First time 'round I used go cart bakes as some others have, but after somemore searching, I found some brakes from golf carts which are very nicelymade, larger and sturdier than the others, and so far they're working outnicely. Like all drum brakes with large wire wheels, they will most likelybe underpowered, but that's good since everybody's gears are now too farback. Did a cool thing which I'm also really happy with. The flatbackrest really became uncomfortable after twenty minutes of flying aroundmy shop, so I cut out a 15" square and replaced it with a carbon fiber piecethat has a contour in it. In the deepest point, it protrudes behind thebulkhead about 1.5", so it'll move the CG back a tiny bit, but being only150 lbs, I'm not worried, and the difference is huge. I did the same withmy seat bottom to drop me down into the pit more and to try to match thecontour of my bottom.$ .02Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: keeping costs down, and NX799B progress

Original Posted By: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
I agree Douwe. Although I've got a long way to go, I know that I've already spentseveral hundred dollars on shipping items (including two freight trucks).Aside from planning ahead in order to get as much as possible on each order, oneof the more helpful things that many have mentioned is the "Bag of Spruce".I ordered this early in my project and I'm glad that I did... I've used thesescraps several times. Another thing that I would like to recommend to anyonestarting out in this hobby from scratch (as I did) is a "Homebuilders HardwareKit", or something similar. Having this selection of common hardware has savedme a lot of guesswork when mounting fasteners. Of course, taking accuratemeasurements helps when planing assemblies, but sometimes it is nice to holdstuff in your hand and know that it will fit/work. This also keeps me from orderinga handful of nuts and bolts as I need them. As I use stuff up I can justreplenish my stock when I place an order for other things, not ever time Ineed a fastener. I'm fortunate that there is a lot of hardware, tools, materials and knowledge readilyavailable at my field and in the Tulsa area, but I can see how these littlethings can really start to rack up for people who are in more remote locations,and even for myself when I fail to plan properly.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Douwe,Could you post some pictures of the back rest you described below??Thanks.BrianSLC-UT

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Great point about a starter set of hardware. Does one exist? Various Google searcheshave resulted in dubious results.If none exist, is there any advice out there on what one would include (and quantities)in such a set for the Piet?--------Gary WilsonGreenville Wisconsingtche98 (at) gmail ((dot)) comPlanning PhaseRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: keeping costs down, and NX799B progress

Original Posted By: Kenneth Bickers
There are several hardware kits at various vendors. I purchased the HomebuildersHardware Kit from Aircraft Spruce. Go to the link and click on the "AssortedKits" link... there are many. I purchased this one as I figured it would cover much of what I needed.They also have this one, which is nearly 3 times as much and contains way morethan I'll probably need. --------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:59:54 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: keeping costs down, and NX799B progress

Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP