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Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:23 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
While we're asking each other for short lengths of tubing (or rod, in somecases), I thought I'd see if anyone on the list has some streamline tubingthat I could buy.I'm making a heated pitot tube for the RV-10 I'm building. Since I learnedto build airplanes with my Pietenpol, I don't exactly fit the mold of thetypical RV-10 builder. Most of them just think nothing of shelling out $500for a new heated pitot tube. I can't afford that much money for somethingthat I hope to never need, so I scrounged around and found a used one from aCessna 172 on ebay for $75. I received it today and tested it (both forpitot function and heating) and found that it works, after I blew all themud dauber nests out of it. But I need to make a mount to extend it belowthe surface of the wing (Van's recommends 5"). The pitot tube has a 90degree bend with a streamlined cross section that is made to slip into apiece of streamlined tubing. I need about 3" of streamlined tubing with awall thickness of .049", a major axis of 2.023" and a minor axis of .857".Aircraft Spruce has such tubing, but the minimum order is 1 foot, for aprice of $23.00. If anybody has such a piece of tubing lying around, I'llhappily pay $10 for it.I didn't even bother posting this request on the RV-10 list. They'd neverunderstand that this is the kind of thing REAL homebuilding is all about.All they want to do is complain about the quality of Van's kits (which issuperb) and whine about which type of glass cockpit electronics to buy.They already look askance at me because I bought the engine (an O-540Lycoming) on ebay with the intentions of overhauling it myself. All theRV-10 builders I know have bought NEW IO-540's for a price of over $50,000each. Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:04:50 -0600

RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:00 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Thanks, Jim but I don't know how I could make that fit. I had alreadylooked at the aluminum streamlined tubing that AS&S sells which I think isthe same. It's just too big. Too bad because it probably is pretty lightcompared to the steel.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:07 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:59 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP

RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:33 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,I may not have 30 ribs, but I have 14.5" of that exact piece, and it hasyour name written all over it!Gary Boothe

Re: Pietenpol-List: Maineville Ohio

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:51 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
I'm not too far from there, hit me up off line and I'll see if I can help you out!!Matthew.Vandervort(at)gmail.comSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, KM Heide CPO/FAAOP wrote:> > Hello Pieters:> > Anyone living in or near Maineville, Ohio? If so please email me as I have aspecial request.> > Ken H> Fargo, ND> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:47 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Gary,Thanks a lot! I figured somebody in the Pietenpol world would help me out.In your honor I will refrain for a period of 30 days from making disparagingremarks about Corvairs.Send me your address and I'll send you a check. Send the tubing to:Jack Phillips9916 Bonsal CrossingNew Hill, NC 27562I'll see what the postage was and add that to the $10. I really only need alittle over 3" of the tubing, so if you wish, just cut that much off andsend it. You might need the rest for something else someday.Thanks again!Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____

RE: Pietenpol-List: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:35 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,I'll hold you to your refrain, but my price for a short piece of streamlinetubing is 1 beer at Brodhead.your credit is good.Gary _____

Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:28 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Ken_P"
Not Jack T, I try to stay away from 1.8meg files. Nice pic though...Jack TDSMJack TextorSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 19, 2011, at 6:28 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> I think it was Jack T. who, a few weeks ago, sent the picture of his rib cutting jig.good idea!> > > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, Running! > Tail done, Fuselage on gear, RIBS DONE!> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:54 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Yes Gary, I feel I must verify Jack's integrity. He has sworn to not disparage Covairengines for another 28 days and counting and he's done an admirable job so fareven though I tried to draw him out today (he's undoubtedly a better man thanI). However, he hasn't sworn off declaring the CH750 as "Uglier than the box a sonexwas delivered in" and I fully expect to hear about that. And when he finds himself in Australia I hope he will look me up and teach mehow to fly that spam can. Back to lurking...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:03 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Ken_P"
Dear group,Since this topic is appropriate to my question, I will "Hijack it".I am building the Sky Scout and the landing gear calls for "Streamline tube No. 1695" for the rear landing "strut". Does anyone know the specifics of this tubing? I ordered Chromoly Streamline tubing from ACS of the correct dimensions (1.5"X3/4") but its wall thickness is only .049, the thickest they carry. This seems rather thin compared to the front tube of the landing gear which is 1.5" X 11 gauge wall thickness. I have the parts cut out but will await your sage advice before welding.Thanks in advance.Thanks and fly SAFELY,Ray KrauseWaiex 51YX, Jabiru 3300 (1197), Sensenich wood prop, AeroCarb (#2 needle modified), Dynon D-180, Garmin SL 30 NavCom, Garmin 327 transponder, Garmin Aera 560, nav and strobe lights: 240 hrs., building Sky Scout.----- Original Message -----

Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:17 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Finally got to Fly

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:31 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Finally got to Fly

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:16 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
John what in the world are you doing at Pearl Harbor? Never heard of need for asafety man there. You come on home now.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:40 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Hi Ray,A few years ago I had to fabricate a tailwheel bracket assembly for My Aeronca Sedan (legal because there are non available) all made out of various sizes of streamline tubing. I was faced with the same situation as you. The main strut tubing that was used in 1948 was thicker than what I could get. So I noticed that I could order the next size smaller and it would actually slide inside of the thin walled tube, with a little filing/grinding. The ends were all welded in my assembly so nobody was the wiser. I was assured that the final product was as strong or stronger that the original. Don't know if this trick will work for you. If not maybe you could slip some round or square tube in there and weld the two together.Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL-----Original Message-----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Streamline Tubing

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:47 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Thanks, Dan. But we do not know what the No. 1695 dimensions were, right? What does the Air Camper recommend as far as Streamline tubing goes?Ray Krause ----- Original Message -----