Original Posted By: "giacummo"
Hi Malcom, I do all the maintenance myself on the one I bought. My A&P charges me $225 todo the annual condition inspection. He likes to supervise me pull the plugs andclean/rotate them (Cont A-75), checks timing on both mags, checks the oil screen,checks fuel screens, and then eyeballs everything really good. Before theinspection I pull all the cowling, observation pannels and the seat backs,lube all bearings and pulleys, pull the wheel pants and lube wheel bearings. Thenjust take my time going over every nut and bolt. My personal pre-inspectiontakes me about 3 or 4 hours. The A&P portion takes about 2 - 2.5 hours. Thisyear he wants to pull my metal prop and just make sure all is okay.Lesson learned - you don't save money on annuals by building a plane like I thoughtyou would. I just doesn't cost that much in comparison to the rest of theyears expenses (mostly fuel).Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Hello,I am not putting any ring by the moment, I just want to understand, or know betterabout the inspection rings. As I saw in lots of pictures and drawings there are 2 kinds of them, ones havean aluminium (I think Al) hatch to close them, and others have just a rounf pieceof fabric over the a plastic ring.The procedure to inspect with the ones with the fabric cover ( I want to understand) is: cut the fabric inside the hole, inpect, and put a nuew piece of fabric...isn't it? thank you--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hello,I am not putting any ring by the moment, I just want to understand, or know betterabout the inspection rings. As I saw in lots of pictures and drawings there are 2 kinds of them, ones havean aluminium (I think Al) hatch to close them, and others have just a rounf pieceof fabric over the a plastic ring.The procedure to inspect with the ones with the fabric cover ( I want to understand) is: cut the fabric inside the hole, inpect, and put a nuew piece of fabric...isn't it? thank you--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
> Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Original Posted By:> mario.giacummo(at)gmail.com
Those rings hold the aluminum insp covers. Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Those rings hold the aluminum insp covers. Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
> > Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Original Posted By:> > mario.giacummo(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection ringsUnderstand.thanksMario Giacummo... .. .-.. .- .- ...- . -. - ..- .-. .- . ... .--. . .-.. .. --. .-.--- ... .- --..-- .--. .-. --- -... .- .-.. .- .-. ..- - .. -. .- --..-- . ... -- --- .-. - .- .-.. !!!!!2012/4/17 Doug Dever > Those rings hold the aluminum insp covers.>> Doug Dever> In beautiful Stow Ohio>>> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection ringsUnderstand.thanksMario Giacummo... .. .-.. .- .- ...- . -. - ..- .-. .- . ... .--. . .-.. .. --. .-.--- ... .- --..-- .--. .-. --- -... .- .-.. .- .-. ..- - .. -. .- --..-- . ... -- --- .-. - .- .-.. !!!!!2012/4/17 Doug Dever > Those rings hold the aluminum insp covers.>> Doug Dever> In beautiful Stow Ohio>>> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
" I really think that 110 hp made a difference but the longer wing also made a difference. "---when you say " made a difference" , i assume in a good way, right?also , is there much of a weight difference between a corvair 100 hp and a c-65, c-85. thanks; PaulRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
" I really think that 110 hp made a difference but the longer wing also made a difference. "---when you say " made a difference" , i assume in a good way, right?also , is there much of a weight difference between a corvair 100 hp and a c-65, c-85. thanks; PaulRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: giacummo
Mario,The plastic rings are initially captured in the covering process. These then remain in that state until the first inspection, at which time they are cut inside the ring and then covered with the aluminum cap. I think that is what your question is.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Mario,The plastic rings are initially captured in the covering process. These then remain in that state until the first inspection, at which time they are cut inside the ring and then covered with the aluminum cap. I think that is what your question is.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
Right now, 47 views on the aviation related post, 35 views on the rant... I guesseven some Piet folks find it interesting. Why not just prohibit off topic posting? Tools, wondering if that would make this post illegal as well...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Right now, 47 views on the aviation related post, 35 views on the rant... I guesseven some Piet folks find it interesting. Why not just prohibit off topic posting? Tools, wondering if that would make this post illegal as well...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: John Hofmann
Yes, that was what i try the understand... and now another one.... how is the aluminiumcover attached to the ring?.. do not worry, something is going to cometo my mind.....Thank you very much Dan.Regards.--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Yes, that was what i try the understand... and now another one.... how is the aluminiumcover attached to the ring?.. do not worry, something is going to cometo my mind.....Thank you very much Dan.Regards.--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
I did the type of checkride he mentions in an Airbus A330 on the SAME DAY I soloeda Pietenpol for the first time, which was also my first solo in a taildraggerand the first time I soloed a light civil airplane since 1983... That definitelyhighlighted the differences.Probably not surprisingly, I found the Piet solo to be a lot more challenging.All the important decisions are left up to to your own lonesome self in the lightcivil arena. No load control to help make sure it's legal, no dispatch checkingthe weather, route, etc., no maintenance control and monster technicaloperations center to help you decide if the plane is ready or not.I even had to decide for myself if I was ready to fly it! No battery of instructors,check airmen and feds making that decision for me.Interesting reading. As incredible as it sounds (and is), that arena STILL doesn'thave all the resources available to a Piet pilot and a well equipped iPad...Havn't been able to find the picture to save my soul, but my favorite Pietenpolpic of all times was a picture of a classic Piet next to a B2 bomber. The captionread something like: "next to the Piet I built my son, is the B2 my sonbuilt..." I guess he was an engineer on the project and they managed to setup the photo op when he delivered it to him. Again, both ends of the spectrumsitting right next to each other.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
I did the type of checkride he mentions in an Airbus A330 on the SAME DAY I soloeda Pietenpol for the first time, which was also my first solo in a taildraggerand the first time I soloed a light civil airplane since 1983... That definitelyhighlighted the differences.Probably not surprisingly, I found the Piet solo to be a lot more challenging.All the important decisions are left up to to your own lonesome self in the lightcivil arena. No load control to help make sure it's legal, no dispatch checkingthe weather, route, etc., no maintenance control and monster technicaloperations center to help you decide if the plane is ready or not.I even had to decide for myself if I was ready to fly it! No battery of instructors,check airmen and feds making that decision for me.Interesting reading. As incredible as it sounds (and is), that arena STILL doesn'thave all the resources available to a Piet pilot and a well equipped iPad...Havn't been able to find the picture to save my soul, but my favorite Pietenpolpic of all times was a picture of a classic Piet next to a B2 bomber. The captionread something like: "next to the Piet I built my son, is the B2 my sonbuilt..." I guess he was an engineer on the project and they managed to setup the photo op when he delivered it to him. Again, both ends of the spectrumsitting right next to each other.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Re: Pietenpol-List: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
I've never heard of putting on a new piece of fabric. Leave the hole uncut until you need to look inside where the ring is, cut the fabric out inside the ring, after inspection replace the cutout piece with an alluminum cover which is specially made for just that. C----- Original Message -----
I've never heard of putting on a new piece of fabric. Leave the hole uncut until you need to look inside where the ring is, cut the fabric out inside the ring, after inspection replace the cutout piece with an alluminum cover which is specially made for just that. C----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC
John,Why is your wingspan so huge? Was this this intentional?Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
John,Why is your wingspan so huge? Was this this intentional?Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!Dan,its been a while since I measured the wing panels however I believe the spars were cut from 16 foot poplar planks to 15 '7" from the joint hinge strap fitting to the bow of the wing tips, as i recall. Even then I thought more wing the better so I didn't mind the length. I believe the plans for the 3 piece wing are larger any way.All of which is speculation at the moment until I get good solid measurements from the wing panels. If my numbers are incorrect I will correct themIll let ya knowJohn________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: put your cards on the table Gents and Ladies!Dan,its been a while since I measured the wing panels however I believe the spars were cut from 16 foot poplar planks to 15 '7" from the joint hinge strap fitting to the bow of the wing tips, as i recall. Even then I thought more wing the better so I didn't mind the length. I believe the plans for the 3 piece wing are larger any way.All of which is speculation at the moment until I get good solid measurements from the wing panels. If my numbers are incorrect I will correct themIll let ya knowJohn________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
Don' know if its the one you areLooking for, but, My instructions for the 82636 SW tachsay to use the 82646 sending unitI think Summit Racing sells them--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Don' know if its the one you areLooking for, but, My instructions for the 82636 SW tachsay to use the 82646 sending unitI think Summit Racing sells them--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection rings
Original Posted By: Mario Giacummo
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> m>> > Hello=2C> > I am not putting any ring by the moment=2C I just want to understand=2C or know better about the inspection rings. > As I saw in lots of pictures and drawings there are 2 kinds of them=2C ones have an aluminium (I think Al) hatch to close them=2C and others have just a rounf piece of fabric over the a plastic ring.> The procedure to inspect with the ones with the fabric cover ( I want to understand ) is: cut the fabric inside the hole=2C inpect=2C and put a nuew piece of fabric... isn't it? > > thank you> > --------> Mario Giacummo> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 041#371041> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> m>> > Hello=2C> > I am not putting any ring by the moment=2C I just want to understand=2C or know better about the inspection rings. > As I saw in lots of pictures and drawings there are 2 kinds of them=2C ones have an aluminium (I think Al) hatch to close them=2C and others have just a rounf piece of fabric over the a plastic ring.> The procedure to inspect with the ones with the fabric cover ( I want to understand ) is: cut the fabric inside the hole=2C inpect=2C and put a nuew piece of fabric... isn't it? > > thank you> > --------> Mario Giacummo> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 041#371041> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________