Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Anybody going to the MAAC fly-in this weekend?Dave Stephens sold his Piet to someone in the Brodhead area and it has been takenapart, we took off the wings yesterday. Dave and I will deliver the Piet partsto Brodhead Airport this weekend. Mike Weeden is to help the new owner buildan aircraft with the parts. I think they are going to send the Corvair backto WW for the 5th bearing.Skip________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Calculate it. Sitka Spruce has a density of 21.86 lbs/ft3. Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: a way to avoid routing spars

Original Posted By: "899PM"
The Atlantic Flyer has a nice article on the July Brodhead Pietenpol Flyin. Dan Helsper's Yellow German and Dan Luke/Rob Bach's airplane got mentioned and there were some pics that brought back memories. Here's a link to the article online:http://www.aflyer.com/1209_c_antiqueattic.htmlMatt PaxtonNX629ML________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet parts to Brodhead

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Skip,I will be there all weekend. Do you need help with anything? Mike Cushway--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By:> 899PM
Mike,Thanks for the offer.When you see the attached, pulling a trailer with wings, come on over.Though I belive Mike Weeden will have necessary help lined up.Skip> [Original Message]

Original Posted By:> Jim Markle
Jim,Know what you mean. When David said he was going to deliver his Piet toBrodhead, I thought gee I'll bet he could use some help. The MAAC fly-in isjust icing on the cake.Skip> [Original Message]

Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Greg,I happened to see this today on Barnstormers. Don't know anything about it, butI thought I would pass it along. Hope it helps.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a way to avoid routing spars

Original Posted By: "tools"
So, Tools, are there savings to be gained (Both in your wallet as well as youraircraft's gross weight) in building up an I-beam type spar or is it about evenwith buying a solid spar and routing it. Or just leaving it alone and acceptingan extra 12 pounds of weight and no extra work.Your thoughts?--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a way to avoid routing spars

Original Posted By: "tools"
Time or money...The best for me is going to be culling through McCormick's for a nice 1 1/8" boardthat's in the 4/4 pile (which they have), then resaw and make 1/2" planks,and build up to an i-beam. I'll do like Mike's "next time" but make the partsadded a bit wider, use spruce instead of plywood (to avoid cross grain construction)and then rout to give the requisite filets to avoid stress risers.The down side is it's an enormous amount of work and will require a ton of tools,which I'm lucky enough to have. Based on the wood I bought there for my tail feathers, my 4 spars will cost around$160 total. It's ABSOLUTELY not worth carrying around the extra 12 lbs no matter how you doit. Routing the spars is easy. If you don't want to rout, then use 3/4 solid.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: a way to avoid routing spars

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Oh ya, the other part of the question.Just buying and routing is the easiest, but will require me buying 4 boards sowill be about $320.Not having access to a bandsaw that resaws well, a planer, tablesaw, a bazillionclamps, a jointer and a place to build up a 30' long spar might make the solidand rout option cheaper at $320. Building up without resawing is kind of the worst of both worlds unless you canget 1/2" (surfaced, 3/4 rough, which is rare) by the bdft. Having access to planers and jointers allows the use of rough lumber. I'm notsure if you can buy certified aircraft spruce rough or not. Presurfaced and certifiedfrom AC Spruce is probably $20/bdft, where good spar grade (but not officiallycertified) sitka from McCormicks is about $8/bdft.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Andrew; my experience with the Stromberg when it floods is EXACTLY the same asTools'... but when I smell gas and the engine isn't starting I turn the fuel 'off',open the throttle wide, then slowly and patiently pull the prop throughBACKWARDS a blade at a time, maybe 10-12 blades. What you're trying to do isevaporate excess fuel that's in the combustion chambers so don't hurry pullingthose blades through.When you think that the excess fuel is all gone, turn the fuel valve back on andcrack the throttle and try propping it normally again. BRAKES SET OR WHEELSCHOCKED! It can happen that the engine will fire with excess fuel availablein the intake tubes, which means that it will catch and accelerate, and you needto be ready for that eventuality. It'll settle down quickly.If it starts, it will be normal. If it doesn't (and this happened to me many timesin hot weather with the engine hot), repeat the above procedure and don'tbe in a hurry. In fact, I had almost as good results as the above by just shuttingoff the fuel, opening the throttle wide, and going back into the hangaror FBO to do other stuff for awhile until I thought the excess fuel had evaporatedand I had another chance to fire up the engine. Cessna drivers wonderedwhat the heck I was doing ;o)I have never flooded the 75, for some reason. It seems to want more fuel on startingthan the 65 did, but then again they run two different Strombergs and weall know that Strombergs are like women: you have to treat them right and treatthem like individuals, and they will reward you if you do that. My 65 hada temperamental (starting) but utterly reliable (running) brunette Stromberg;my 75 has a quick-starting but cold-natured redhead Stromberg. Heaven help usif I ever have an engine with a hot-blooded and wild blonde Stromberg! Oh,and if it has a mixture control-! Look out, Marilyn Monroe!Marvel-Scheblers are more like men, I guess... all alike in the basics, and alwaysready for action if stroked a time or two since stroking shoots some fuelin there to get the juices flowing every time. I can't tell you how many timesI have stroked the throttle on Scout out of habit and inattention on starting,then realized that it does absolutely nothing for the Stromberg to open andclose the butterfly in the venturi in that carb if no air is flowing throughit.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford/Ashland, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:06:45 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet parts to Brodhead

Original Posted By: "skipgadd(at)earthlink.net"
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet parts to Brodhead>>> Skip,>> I will be there all weekend. Do you need help with anything? >> Mike Cushway>> --------> PAPA MIKE>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet parts to Brodhead>>> Dang, I'm stating to get that old familiar "we're going to Brodhead andyou're not..." feeling...again.>> I hate that....________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Looking for a steel tube piet