Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
I'm not sure how to do it, perhaps just really good photography, but a close observationof the attitude of the top longeron of the fuse between your two Pietswhile in very stable level flight should reveal the relative condition of therigging.Maybe just a good level, perhaps an iPhone's app would work, dunno.But a lot of extra fuselage hanging out in the breeze is HUGE. When I ferried2RN home, after taking off one very smooth morning, I found myself settling backdown towards the trees! I was panic stricken as I cycled the carb heat, doublechecked the airspeed, etc. I finally realized the ball was WAAAAY out toone side (remember, this was my 5th Piet flight! My 8th light civil flight sincehigh school...), I centered it and climbed normally (still not good, hada very cruisey prop). I was shocked at how performance limiting that slip was.Just a few degrees of yaw or a non level fuse (relative to relative wind) wouldmake a very noticeable difference.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Off Topic -- Ohio Flyers -- Help

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
So here's the deal. I'm ferrying a Dakota Hawk (wood, plans built, tail wheel,no transponder, sound familiar?) from outside Milwaukee to Maine. The routefrom the PA border up to Maine is pretty straight forward but I need some suggestionson coping with Chicago and Cleveland air space. Did I mention NO transponder?Those of you who fly from mid-Ohio to Brodhead have a preferred route south ofthe ORD Class B and I can't remember what it is. Also, is there an easy way pastCLE at intermediate VFR altitudes?Thanks AllDave AldrichRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dave,You didn't mention whether or not you will have a GPS. Assuming you do,here is the route that I would program in to get you around Chicago:I fly from Brodhead to Poplar Grove, Illinois (C77), then go to Swettintersection (which should keep you clear of Aurora's Class D airspace) thento Joliet (KJOT) After you get to Joliet, you should be clear of Chicago.Maybe Mike Cuy can chime in with advice for avoiding CLE airspace.Jack PhillipsNX899JP (which is still in Brodhead - I need to get back up there and fly itback home)Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Mario: your question is too general. Are you asking about electrical wiring, mechanicalconnections such as throttle and tachometer, or maybe just about howto pass through the firewall?Do you have an electrical system (battery, alternator, starter, etc.)? If not,that makes it much simpler.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Off Topic -- Ohio Flyers -- Help

Original Posted By: "Ralph"
Dave,The ride from Joliet to the CLE area is a really great one with lots of great airportsalong the way. Valparaiso, Stark County, Plymouth, Warsaw, DeKalb County,Paulding, Van Wert, Fostoria, Seneca County, Norwalk. I think I've beeninto almost all of these as NORDO. Does the airplane have an engine driven electrical system? I think that will determineif you can operate within the CLE Mode C veil without a transponder.If it doesn't then you are good to go under the veil. Oftener, Medina, PortageCounty are all good. Been through the area south of Cleveland and north ofAkron many many times. I'm just south of Youngstown at York field if you wouldneed anything or a RON. Dart Field northeast of Erie, PA is a fun stop.Let me know if I can help any more,Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Dave-sounds like a fun trip you've got ahead of you. Many of us who have flown the points-East to Brodhead trip and backjust stay outside/underneath the Class B Airspace. I'm located at 4G8, Columbia Station Airport in the 1900' ring of ClevelandHopkins Airport and I routinely operate with airliners on final above me with no issues at all, never talking with CLE or needinga transponder. Just stay under the rings and avoid the towers.Mike C.[cid:image001.jpg(at)01CE94DD.13E5BEB0]________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Off Topic -- Ohio Flyers -- Help

Original Posted By: airlion2(at)gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BEAUTIFUL WORK MARIO!!Do you belive it?.. Thank you very much, I am going to do the effortPD: I think I wrote the above line wrong..Mario Giacummo2013/8/9 Douwe Blumberg > I just looked at your Pietenpol site Mario and it is going to be a> beautiful airplane!! Congratulations on your progress!****>> ** **>> Douwe****>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Off Topic -- Ohio Flyers -- Help

Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Why did you leave it jack? Was it the weather or your foot or both. Weather has been terrible all over. gardinerSent from my iPadOn Aug 8, 2013, at 9:55 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> Dave,> > You didn't mention whether or not you will have a GPS. Assuming you do, here is the route that I would program in to get you around Chicago:> > I fly from Brodhead to Poplar Grove, Illinois (C77), then go to Swett intersection (which should keep you clear of Aurora's Class D airspace) then to Joliet (KJOT) After you get to Joliet, you should be clear of Chicago.> > Maybe Mike Cuy can chime in with advice for avoiding CLE airspace.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP (which is still in Brodhead - I need to get back up there and fly it back home)> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
How is your rv10 coming long? also will you be able to make it toTripple Tree in sept. gardinerSent from my iPadOn Aug 8, 2013, at 9:55 PM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> Dave,> > You didn't mention whether or not you will have a GPS. Assuming you do, here is the route that I would program in to get you around Chicago:> > I fly from Brodhead to Poplar Grove, Illinois (C77), then go to Swett intersection (which should keep you clear of Aurora's Class D airspace) then to Joliet (KJOT) After you get to Joliet, you should be clear of Chicago.> > Maybe Mike Cuy can chime in with advice for avoiding CLE airspace.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP (which is still in Brodhead - I need to get back up there and fly it back home)> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Both. Winds were pretty high on Sunday, and moderate turbulence forecastall along my route. I was on meds for the spider bite on my toe and didn'tfeel good. I just didn't feel like getting beat up for two days (it was 16hours of flying time getting up there). I felt the safest thing to do wasto rent a hangar at C37 for a month and come back later for the airplane.Toe is healing nicely now, although I'm still on meds and haven't flownsince Brodhead. I'll probably try to time the retrieval so I can attend thegrassroots fly-in at Brodhead after Labor Day. Maybe by then we'll be outof the pattern of stationary fronts hanging over the mountains that we'vehad almost all summer.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Thanks all. The Hawk has an O-200 with an electrical systen but NO transponder.I have a GPS and will take Jack's c77..swett..jot routing to get east of theORD class B. Looks like going south of CAK and then over Elser (4g4) will getme through the eastern Ohio maze.I was born in Fort Wayne and lived there until I was 13, took my first flying lessonsat Toledo Exec from a guy named Stan Irons who flew mail in the 20's andnot only lived to talk about it, but made it past the century mark. I thinkat one time he was the oldest active CFI in the country. Wouldn't let me use theflaps on the 172 we were flying. Said they were a crutch and, in hind sight,he was absolutely correct. I still have shirt tail relatives all over northern Indiana. Wish I had the timeto stop and get reacquainted but the weather window only allows so much lollygagging.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:15:20 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Off Topic -- Ohio Flyers -- Help

Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
I live and hangar just a few miles south of Elser. Mike Stanko is pretty muchout of the Staggerwing business. Things slowed down in that area when the bottomdropped out a few years back. A cool place to shop in that area is SalemAirpark. Great owners and a fantastic restaurant on the field. By the way GalenElser, who used to own Elser airport contributed quite a bit to the Pietenpollore.... But that's a whole other discussion. If you pass through the areafell free to look me up, I'm at York field just south of Elser.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: DandD Boyd
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Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"

Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Elser+airport> where is Elsner? airport ID? > Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 07:58:23 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Off Topic -- Ohio Flyers -- Help

Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
Ya, the more parts that are going to be used, the better. Once it's all together, you need as nice a fit for a dummy shaft as you can find.It's probably worth considering making some dummy shafts and then passing themaround for folks like engine mount jigs, wing rib jigs, etc.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Off Topic -- Ohio Flyers -- Help

Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Thanks for all your inputs. I'm back in Maine safely and the Dakota Hawk is inits new home. The trip around ORD and east over Elser was uneventful. Stoppedfor fuel at Fulton Co, NY (NY0) and chatted with the guys at the 195 Factorywho maintain and restore some beautiful Cessna 195's. I hope the drool in myshirt dries out soon.DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________