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Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:21 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Hey JohnLet me know when you'll be at the hanger and what ya want to getdone and I'll come help!--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:25 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Sweet...! Are the white tubes already in place and painted white, or are they whereyou propose tubing be added to make up for the door cutout...?--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:57 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Mike,I will let you know what I decide to do.Thanks for the reference.Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Michael Perez wrote:> > > > Ray, I am in the process of figuring out my radio gear and found this antennainteresting. I am not ready to move on anything as of yet, but if you do, pleaselet me know how it works out.> > If God is your co-pilot...switch seats.> Michael Perez> Pietenpol HINT Videos> Karetaker Aero> www.karetakeraero.com> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:19 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Jake,What a coincidence! This is exactly what I have been pondering the last few daysas I finish up the last few details on my fuselage. I am also using rudderpedals and toe brakes. If I had stuck with Bernard's design, I would not havethis problem! That rudder horn looks pretty fragile if I ever really get on thebrakes in a panic stop (or more accurately, a panic slow down).Mike, I am referencing Uncle Tony's tomes. I am leaning towards the two pulleysand one cable connected from one pedal to the other. That way, the rudder cableswill stay in the same place as designed and undue stress will not be transferredto the rudder horn.Ray KrauseSkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Nov 16, 2013, at 10:19 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote:> > > Your fuselage looks great.. Progressing well here. I have been laying out theroutes for the rudder cables. I am using pedals instead of the rudder bar soI am positioning a "pivot bar" in the aft fuselage to take the loads when I maypush on both pedals at once - such as hard braking. This way the pivot bar takesthe stress and the cables back from there to the relatively delicate rudder,rudder hinges, and rudder bar are a steady/lower tension.> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator,> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 237#413237> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:39 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Well good morning John,It has been awhile since I have seen your name pop up. If I told you that I willbe right over to help you, would you start tinkering with the plane beforeI got there? Wish I didn't live so far away from you. The 3000 miles gets in the way of anyphysical help I could offer. I'll bet that if you did go out to the airportand finished it, your knees would instantly feel better, at least enough to goflying. I know it is getting cold there already. Do you have a heater in the hangar? I'llbet you could finish it in time for Brodhead. Wouldn't that be great? Anyway, good to hear from you. Hope you can get through your slump. Happy holidaysand ask Santa for a white scarf and goggles for Christmas. That may beall it takes.Happy Landings,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:02 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Thanks... It's really just my decor - but I strive for it to look like an air museum.Here are a couple shots.......--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/nwam ... __________

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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:28 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Thanks, Jack. I am amazed at the difference with the new tail wheel! Gary BootheNX308MB

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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:07 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer

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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:20 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Right, Jim! I think I would end up just like one of the many bugs on his leading edge! Fortunately, he=99s a very good pilot and looks out for the rest of us!Good luck with the scarf joints!Gary BootheNX308MB

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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:21 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:41 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
I have a couple of useless and snide comments about this, and then one personalobservation about the fabric "weight". Useless and snide comment to Ken Bickers:do you realize what you get when you multiply 37 yards x 3 ft. to the yardx 6 ft. wide? Are you sure you want to fly that thing? ;o)Useless and snide comment to Jerry regarding certified and non-certified fabricsboth coming from the same shipping address: the Chevy Malibu ($20,000) and theCadillac ELR ($75,000) come from the same plant in Michigan ;o)And a personal observation on fabric weight, not to be argumentative but simplyto throw in my (somewhat limited) personal experience: Scout is covered withPoly-Fiber "uncertified light", which I believe is 1.87 oz/sq.yd. I have operatedthe airplane off of grass, dirt, turf, and of course asphalt and concretewith plenty of gravel and debris to be thrown around. Although the airplanehas gotten plenty dirty, oily, and nasty, I have never found any damage to thefabric anywhere on the airplane from FOD or anything else. In fact, it takesa pretty determined effort to punch through it if you're not using a knife orsomething with a sharp edge. I've found plenty of paint chipping and wearingon the lower landing gear legs, spring struts, tailwheel and spring, but no visibledamage to the fabric. If I were to recover the aircraft for whatever reason,I would go with the lightweight fabric again and just patch it if I everhad a cut or tear to repair.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel Tube Fuselage Passenger Door Fabrication