Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "gsnewsome"
Yes I am thinking about rudder stops. I have some thoughts about adding a partto the pivot bar but I want to get it all welded up and working before I do anythingrash....! (one step at a thyme...!)--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quick Intro - Georgia

Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
I recently joined the email lists and must admit I'm fascinated with this design.Although it will not meet my needs, I still enjoy seeing the variations inthe final products built. I would like to see one of these up close. Thanks,Greg Newsome (Savannah, GA)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Hey,I saw Vi's plane about four years ago and it was finished, but he hadn'tflown it yet. Since then I have heard absolutely nothing about it or seenany pictures of it flying or otherwise. Does anyone know "the dish" on this plane and if it's flown? And if it hasflown how is it doing? It's a beautiful, Ford powered, to the plans planeand I think it would good to know about it.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel-tube fuselage update - rudder cable routing...

Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Good morning Oscar,Good question, If you only have light surface rust then you will not have anyproblem using the tubing. If there is any pitting due to the rust I wouldn'tconsider using those pieces. I could only guess that the rust would only be onthe outside due to all the handling over the years. If you have some lightrust on the inside I would try running a round wire brush or scotch brite throughit with a drill. This might be better done after you have cut them to length.(shorter pieces) Then get some linseed oil on the inside. Before any welding,be sure to clean the tube joints real good first. You could then sand orsand blast the rest of the structure before priming and/or painting. Silicasand has worked good for me. What did Uncle Tony say?--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Quick Intro - Georgia

Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Greg,There may be Pietenpols closer, but less than 2 hours north of you is Barnwell,South Carolina. P.F. Beck and Don Harper have 2 great examples of well builtPietenpols. You can contact P.F., and I am sure he would be happy to have youcome up, and will even give you a ride.P.F. is the consummate southern gentleman who, I m sure, would be happy to getwith you.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel-tube fuselage update - rudder cable routing...

Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Scott: don't start me to lyin' ;o) I am ashamed to say that I haven't looked atthe Sportplane Builder books to see what Uncle Tony says about preparing steeltubing for fabrication, but I promise that I will ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi's Piet

Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Douwe; go back to Nov. 22 when I posted a thread called "Friday's mystery Piet".There are some pictures of Vi's beautiful airplane there. I assume that it'sflying.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel-tube fuselage update - rudder cable routing...

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Oscar,I must confess. I have uncle Tony's books too but have not cracked them open inabout twenty years. I don't even know if he covers rusty 4130. I only askedbecause I thought you may have already looked.See Mikee, we are trying but we are not good at follow through without your nudge.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:15:03 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel-tube fuselage update - rudder cable routing...

Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
Greg,Im in Gilbert, SC which is 25 miles west of Columbia. Im just of Rte 20. I wouldbe honored if you would like to visit. I bought a project and have been workingon it to date. I should be covering in January. The frame is all done. Fordpowered and I just finished rebuilding it.Stop by anytime.jack803-414-2235On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:03 AM, jarheadpilot82 wrote:> > Greg,> > There may be Pietenpols closer, but less than 2 hours north of you is Barnwell,South Carolina. P.F. Beck and Don Harper have 2 great examples of well builtPietenpols. You can contact P.F., and I am sure he would be happy to have youcome up, and will even give you a ride.> > P.F. is the consummate southern gentleman who, I m sure, would be happy to getwith you.> > --------> Semper Fi,> > Terry Hand> Athens, GA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 781#414781> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel-tube fuselage update - rudder cable routing...

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
He speaks"Sometimes we builders will find a piece or two of 4130 steel that has been lyingaround for years . . . and it shows it in its surfaces which may have varyingdegrees of rust, scratches and even pit marks. There is no harm in using thematerial although it should be cleaned up first to determine its acceptabilitybefore cutting out parts. This precaution will serve to assure you that youwill not have to discard a part after you have spent much time making it. Rustwill sand off easy enough provided that corrosion has not eaten into the metalto any degree. All rust must be removed, otherwise the residual will keep workingaway on the metal even after it has been primed and painted. Sanding thesurfaces to a nice shiny appearance may or may not prove successful in removingall of the rust. Although the new shiny surfaces might look perfect, the grainof the metal will still have tiny little imbedded specks of rust invisibleto the (if you will pardon the immodesty) naked eye. To be sure, treat steelsurfaces with a metal conditioner to neutralize the rust. A product similar toOsphos or any of those put out by DuPont and other paint companies may be usedto take care of that problem. (Be sure to read and follow instructions.)" TonyBingelis--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
I can see that many of you will not be on my Uncle Tony's Christmas card list this year. He'll be sending lumpsof coal and old fruitcake for your stockings hung by the fire. ![cid:image001.png(at)01CEF031.623DBCC0]________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Steel-tube fuselage update - rudder cable routing...

Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Along the same lines here. When I was rebuilding/recovering my airplane I consideredpowder-coating my fuselage. I called Kitfox to see if they knew how muchweight a Kitfox gained when powder-coated. They said it was abut 12 lbs. It seemed like a lot to me. I also asked them about making repairs and seeingcracks once it was applied. They said both are more difficult to do when powder-coatedverses primer and paint. I was also told that they at one time hada fuselage rust from the inside out after being powder-coated. What caused thatI asked. The answer was that it started rusting before the powder-coatingwas applied. They waited too long after the prep work was done. After learning this I used the Poly-fiber two part epoxy primer and haven't regrettedit at all. So yes, it is very important to make sure ALL rust has been neutralized beforeyou prime or powder-coat. I reckon that you guys building with wood need to look out for mold.Fun stuff to think about.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Douwe Blumberg
Yes, it has flown.Vi was working out some ignition issues and as of last August he had about 10 hours on the plane.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
What's worse? Having Uncle Tony's books and not using them?...or not havingthem at all?Gary BootheNX308MB

Original Posted By: "gsnewsome"
Really looking forward to this. We'll do our very best to provide a thoroughlyproductive and enjoyable weekend. These events are extremely helpful if yourusing, or considering using, a Corvair. Heck, they're fun just for the learningand socializing! Shelley posted the registration link above. Here's the Facebook page with lotsof information:https://www.facebook.com/pages/Corvair- ... ?ref=hlYou don't have to subscribe to Facebook to see the information.Looking forward to seeing you there!--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Quick Intro - Georgia