Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Peter Johnson
I believe someone on this list posted that rather than fiddle with wood piecesfor 'stringers', they used some of that fiberglass-reinforced plastic strappingtape that cardboard boxes are sometimes banded with. Not the sticky tape thatcomes on a roll... the stiff white or black stuff. Weighs next to nothingand you could probably tow a car with it.I'm just not sure it's necessary to use those stringers, since the ribs are alllaced to the fabric. The ribs don't have the ability to shift or deflect oncethey are laced in place.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 21:07:16 +1100Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminium Leading Edges

Original Posted By: taildrags
One of the more satisfying wood-shaping exercises were those loooong block plane strokes all the way across the 29 ft. of one-piece leading edge. I had initially run that rectangular LE spruce piece thru the table saw a couple of times to get some of the meat off, then took after it with the block plane. Still savoring the moment.Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Your solution would be mine!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Peter Johnson"
I used ring shank nails made of silicon bronze, which reportedly resist woking out and resist corrosion. They can be purchased from www.greenboatstuff.com, but with all the boatbuilders down under, you might find them locally. Larry----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: beauty shot at 25 months

Original Posted By: "proplock"
Ive finished the first side of my fuselage, and I want to take it out of the jigclamps, but I haven't installed any gussets. Do you think it will pull thetop joints loose? The glue joints look good but there isn't much surface areaon the end of the struts. I know Bernard suggested wrapping wire around theends , but is that necessary with T88 glue ? I wanted to wait and turn the sideover to put on the gussets so I could put them on the top side of next piece.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminium Leading Edges

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
What size nails? 15?--------A remarkable lad , capable of many thingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage side

Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
Here's a question:Why would you not install any gussets?Pretty much all of the joint strength comes from the gussets. And the tensionin the curved bottom longeron will want to pull the joints apart. I would suggestinstalling all of the gussets (except the BIG cockpit sides, which shouldbe left off as long as possible) on your fuselage sides while still in the jig.Make sure you make one right hand and one left hand fuselage side.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage side

Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
Install the gussets.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Support Pieces

Original Posted By: "aviken"
The inner "X" lacing with cotton tape was done just to hold the ribs in positionand stop them from moving while the covering was applied. As stated above, oncestitched to the covering they are redundant.WF2--------Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage side

Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
I wanted to use my jig as is for the other side, if so wouldn't I have to put thegussets underneath one side or the other . I know the small gussets go onthe inside from the firewall to the pilot seat back then both sides back to thetail. I guess I could re-do my jig for a mirror image of the first side, soI could tack the gussets on the out side. Does my thinking make any sense? And I did want to wait till much later to put the big gusset in place.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage side

Original Posted By: Ned Lebens
One option is to put the small interior gussets on one side and the full outsideply panel on the other. You'd sacrifice some access, but only some. (Don'ttell anyone but I covered both sides completely and still somehow managed.) Cheers,KenOn Dec 9, 2013, at 4:55 PM, "aviken" wrote:> > I wanted to use my jig as is for the other side, if so wouldn't I have to putthe gussets underneath one side or the other . I know the small gussets go onthe inside from the firewall to the pilot seat back then both sides back tothe tail. I guess I could re-do my jig for a mirror image of the first side,so I could tack the gussets on the out side. Does my thinking make any sense?And I did want to wait till much later to put the big gusset in place.> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#415245> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 16:27:14 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage side

Original Posted By: Crandall Eldredge
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage side

Original Posted By: John Woods
my ribs are stock... thanks for the infojim]Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:14:09 +1000Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: fuselage side

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Thanks everyone, I am going to wire the ends of the longerons together and carefullyswap sides then tack and glue the gussets in place. Then the next sidewill be easy.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Peter Johnson
When I built my fuselage sides, I just glued my gussets in place (no nails). Nailsare only required to hold the plywood in place while the adhesive cures -they are not intended to carry any load. Just ensure that the glue joints areproperly "wetted".This method allows the builder to install the gussets on either side of the fuselagestructure while still in the jig.Just something to keep in mind for anyone that hasn't built their fuselage sidesyet.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:16:58 +1100Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminium Leading Edges

Original Posted By: "Braniff1966"
I have both AL and plywood... how do you form over the blunt nose of the ribs withplywood. im lost almost have wing 2 finished and stumped on thisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aluminium Leading Edges

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
use slow cure and if necessary a kicker. get the kicker at a hobby shopalso have a good grade of debonder around to fix what you screwup like gettingyour fingers stuck or dropping a big gob in lap or your eye. trust me it willhappenRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________