Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Hey,To help spur on the builders, I want to share yesterday's flight experience.Got another "weather window" and slipped "RE-PIET" out of the hangar at7:00pm, had an hour before sunset. The winds had died to almost nothing andwere right down the runway. Decided to do five or six take-offs andlandings. It was a blast!!It was a bit chilly, but that was offset by some hear-stirring cool-airperformance. Without a well-calibrated airspeed indicator (I only have aJohnson strut-mounted) I'm leery of really pushing my slow flightapproaches. This day, I decided to inch up on it and just keep "feeling thelift" as I slowed up to make sure she was still good. Shot a few and thingswent really well. I then started experimenting with some pretty aggressiveslips, which was really fun also!For me (my own preference for all you "nit-pickers" out there) I find it somuch easier than a modern slick airframe. Sure, I slow down some ondownwind, but she slows so fast I pretty much find myself landing her like ahang glider, I.E. it feels like I am diving (or slipping) to the runway andthen I just slow things up when I get there and plunk her down. Because our runway is long, I've found myself landing a bit fast so I canreally grease her on and go easy on the tires and landing gear. I reallyneed to work on my short field landing technique though and this was greatpractice.Asphalt is sure different, but It's where she lives so I have had to getconfident on it. I am still keeping my crosswind component within mycomfort zone , but I'm sneaking up on asphalt proficiency. Got to flyformation with a Citabria which was fun, I absolutely love flying with otherplanes, it's one of my favorite flying experiences.Keep building, it's worth it!!DouwePs. I was told that someone had just put their Pietenpol on the airport"waiting list", but he couldn't remember the name. Anyone out there tryingto get into Gene Snyder (K62) near Falmouth KY??Pss. Think I'm about to install some VG's for fun.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!!

Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Hello good Piet-ple,There was a sunny afternoon in Seattle on Friday so I took the opportunity to clecomost of the completed parts on to my Piet for a photo shoot - spend a fewminutes contemplating the progress so far.The wheels are the correct diameter plywood until the real ones are spoke-lacedand the cabaine struts are just mock-ups. I will be working on the center sectionand real cabaine struts next.Hope all of you are enjoying the coming of Spring...Enjoying the journey......--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sunn ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!!

Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Jake: wait. You're going with a radial on your Piet? Why wasn't I told?!! Thatis awesome!! It is looking way, way cool! Beautiful work, and I do envy youthe round engine.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!!

Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Awww, man... I just noticed that you have the external elevator bellcranks andcables, also a la Navratil. Really nice for the old-timey look. Beautiful!--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!!

Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
Yes, Dick and his beautiful plane have been a real inspiration - as have many otheron this message board...... thx.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material

Original Posted By: "bender"
Aluminum has been used but as near as I can remember I have not seen the smallersized used. The most recent one that comes to mind is Chris Rusch who usedaluminum but they look to be the larger extrusion. You'll have to ask him tobe certain.http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chr ... e_153.jpgI know there are more out there but I can't think of them right now.Chris--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material

Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
I used the Carlson struts and used the leftover from the wing struts for the cabanestruts... I've only had a few flights but they look good to me.I have round steel on the forward diagonal struts to the engine mountsJeff FaithSDFRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material

Original Posted By: "Vasek"
I just received my struts from Carlson and plan to do the same. Pics please Jeff!!!Scott Knowlton Sent from my iPhone> On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:35 PM, "bender" wrote:> > > I used the Carlson struts and used the leftover from the wing struts for thecabane struts... I've only had a few flights but they look good to me.> I have round steel on the forward diagonal struts to the engine mounts> > Jeff Faith> SDF> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 720#421720> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!!

Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Beautiful plane, it's certainly an inspiration for me! and I love the seats :-)Nice job Jake!--------My production of WW1 propellers, trophies and constructions:Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It's starting to look like.... well, an airplane...!!

Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Thanks... I have not yet glued on the plywood sides - ha!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Inquiry for you UK Pieters: I'm trying to get in touch with Glen Everett=2C owner and pilot of Air Camper G-BYFT=2C which is featured here: http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/#/g-byft/4546880083. Steel tube fuselage=2C presently flying with a Rotax 912S engine. I'd like to get his email if anyone can help with that. Thanks!Oscar ZunigaMedford=2C ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 power ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:55:10 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: UK Piet G-BYFT

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: UK Piet G-BYFT

Original Posted By: "tools"
Dan,Your craftsmanship is very nice. However, "with all due respect"/"bless your heart"etc, I would like to say that the red diagonal cabanes pictured in my storybelow are a lot stronger than the ones in your pictures. Any tube flattenedon the end in the style of a 1960s swing set construction, will fail like cookedspaghetti in compression. http://flycorvair.net/2013/12/20/fuel-l ... rt-2/>From now on, you can call me the "Cabane Curmudgeon."BTW, new fully aerobatic Decathalons use aluminum struts. There are a number ofways that a guy who isn't good at welding can get better results with boltedaluminum parts from Carlson. I will be glad to share notes on this at Brodhead.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question Re: Cabane material

Original Posted By: "bender"
William,Gonna change my struts to something like those shown... what does the other endlook like? ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aluminum cabanes

Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
I need you guys to pay attention .. look past the passengers..Aluminum cabanes ..and flying strutsJeff FaithRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/almo ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aluminum cabanes

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
What airplane... [Wink]--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ah yes, I remember the photo of the naked women in your Pietenpol. I keephoping you'll bring them to Brodhead (and there's not much room for extraclothing in a Piet).Just kidding. The struts look good, Jeff.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Chris Rusch"
Tools,The EAA book, "The art of welding" has many pages in the back that show do's anddon'ts of welded joints with a particular look at the ends of struts and cabanes.I looked on the EAA site, and they have the updated version of the book,but I am not sure it still has the pages in question. If you go to the Steenaero labs site:https://secure.steenaero.com/Store/site ... 624319They have a picture of the book cover of the 1991 edition, which has the drawings.My 1987 version has a green cover with king Paul welding on it. Other thanthe cover, I am pretty sure the contents are the same. Cheryl, a friend of Grace'sruns Steen and is very helpful, you can call and ask about any book. Whileshopping, consider a "Skyranch engineering Manual" fantastic book on engines.PS: Jeff Faith, you are my hero of the day, I admire your "stripped down" approachto aircraft construction. Please consider giving a forum on this at Oshkosh.It would be welcomed by those of us who find Pappy Boyington a better rolemodel than Rod Marchado.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: aluminum cabanes