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RE: Pietenpol-List: Length of wire length for Horizontal / Vertical stab
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:34 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
We ordered 48 of them for the Big Piets with rolled threads. As I remembereach airplane has 8 and there are 2 each of different Lengths. If you arehaving rolled threads, it would be safer to order these when all the tail isassembled to get the correct length for each wire. The stainless hard wiredoes look great.Just my $ .02BarryNX973BP-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:14 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:22 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Jack,I am thinking about re-doing mine also. I am inviting all comments/criticisms on my design, in order that I might make some improvements. Please feel free to comment as you wish,.... but.... please ....if people could possibly refrain from using the words "1960's swing-set technology".........don't think I can withstand the rejection again.....Dan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Landing gear about finished
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:30 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
I finished my landing gear last night ... I built the die spring type gear thatBH used on the last original. It has been quite a task to complete, but Iam pleased with how it looks.. I hope it performs ok.Read this topic online here:
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Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:25 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Kenny;Wow! Nice job on the gear. Just wondering (it's not obvious from the photo),did you crank in a little bit of angle on the axles so when the completed airplanesits on the gear and the springs compress under the weight, you'll stillhave a little positive camber (top of the tire pointing out, not in)? I am presentlyhaving to add some tapered axle shims to restore the positive camber tomy gear, since the tires have been wearing a bit unevenly. I don't know ifthe springs on my gear legs have weakened and compressed a bit or what.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:
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Pietenpol-List: Re: a common place to undersell yourself---diagonal struts
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:37 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "womenfly2"
I'm about to the point of having mine solidly welded with some streamline tubingtoo. I think this winter I'll get my welding artist Jeff Sterling to do thehonors and eliminate the Aurora ball-end fittings from the connection betweenmy diagonals and verticals and be done with it. I will not need to ever adjustthe sweep-back angle of the cabanes. Unless, of course, I ever re-engine Scoutwith something heavier or lighter than a Continental.Hmmm... shall I go for a Warner Scarab (125 HP, 285 lbs.) or a Rotax 582 (65 HP,100 lbs)-?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:16 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
This is all well and good, but the weak link is the motor bracket attachment tothe top wood longeron. That will fail first as the load on the bolts will splitthe wood.--------Read this topic online here:
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