Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
WWNot trying to come off as being funny. I am willing to repeat Steve Wittman's testin anyone's Piet if you help with all the calculations and rigging. Of coarsesomeone would need to be willing to offer up their plane for the flight testing.My plane is not a candidate since it has a Cub airfoil. Angle of incidencehas a huge effect on flying and landing qualities. It would be very interestingto see the effects.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Annual Progress Report

Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Shelley took these photos for me tonight. Tried to get the airplane into the drivewaybut it wouldn't fit under the garage door. Sorry for the photographicclutter.Several things are not apparent in the photos. The flight controls are done. The rigging and controls for the tail are complete. The brakes are done. We'regetting ready to install the motor. The woodworking on the wings is done andthey're stored at the hangar. What's left: install the motor, rig the wings and get the wings struts, cover.Looking to make Brodhead '16.See you next week.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeRebuilding NX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fbg4 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Progress Report

Original Posted By: dog67(at)aol.com
Mr. Hyde,Let me answer your question and some you have had from earlier posts: Why do people want to keep trying to find a way to make it (the Pietenpol design) better? It is called intellectual curiosity a psychological disposition shared by humanbeings and higher forms of animal life. As an example, I have an old jackassout on my farm that gets creative every once in awhile and he comes up withnew ways to knock down my fences. You should come up and hang out with him. You two would have a lot in common and I think you could learn some things fromhim. I wonder how my pietie would fly if I didn't cover the fuse....the wood workis nice so im thinking that not covering the fuse I could expose the planes gibletsfor the world to see. it would also solve the tail heavy issue and savelots of work and money the berlot dint have the fuse covered and it flew fine...sort of... anyone know anyone that has done this??? I am puzzled by this question based on your response to my most recent post. Tonot cover the fuselage, obviously, would not be as Mr. Pietenpol designed theplane. Despite your vulgar and somewhat rude response to my post, in the egalitarianspirit of this forum, I will attempt to help you with your questionabout tail-heaviness anyway. William Wynn wrote an informative series of articleson wing placement, motor mount length and other variables that effect CG inthe Brodhead Pietenpol Association Newsletter. I understand you are using aproper Continental aircraft engine therefore the issue you would be interestedin is January 2011, page 5-7. You could also lose some weight.In reading your posts it is obvious to me you are a man of great intellectual capacityand wisdom. Would you mind sharing some of that by answering a few questionsyourself? I noticed you are an advocate of the use and application ofAC 43.13. I couldnt agree with you more! Im all about properly constructed andassembled airplanes. So if the Pietenpol design is perfect, as you say, doyou recommend I construct a one-piece wing as Mr. Pietenpol designed it? Andif so, would you fly it? Are four 8d nail adequate to secure the scarf or wouldyou pound in a few more for good measure? What is your opinion about substitutinglag screws, instead? Maybe a little bailing wire? We dont square-bailmuch up here any more but I think I could find some. In a thread dated 21 MAR 14 William Wynne responded to your comments about theuse of auto conversions in homebuilts. He wrote: Very nice resume. Sounds like you have been around planes for a long time. I have not seen that BHP ever had an engine other than a Ford or a Corvair in hispersonal Air campers, other than a single photo of one that briefly had a Villieradial. Your comment "put an airworthy AIRPLANE motor in the nose" strikes me as interesting.Are you saying BHP didn't build his own plane the right way? He bought his first Corvair engine in 1960. It cost about $500. My guess is thata used $500 A-65 in 1960 frequently could be had with a free used Cub airframebolted to it as a package deal. I think the man wanted to use a Corvair, Idon't think he was trying to save money. He built two new planes in the next decade, both with Corvairs. If someone buildsan exact replica of the "Last original", I think he is building arguably bythe last and most up to date set of plans. You can't get more original than that.-wwFor some reason I was unable to find your response. Would you mind answering hisquestion "Are you saying BHP didn't build his own plane the right way?" again?On 24 FEB 14 you wrote: my plans have nothing about safety wire. my ac 43-13 is full of data on whenand how to use it. I never waste time thinking about stuff that has already beendecided by very smart people. its all simple to me just do what the book saysand don't waste valuable time thinking. at 70 I have learned that time isshort...the best part about building a piet is that its a proven design. justfollow the plans, use the wood recommended in the AC, same for hardware, fabricand paint. I will admit that I spent about 30 min deciding on the best gluefor me. I will assure any builder that makes changes will fuck up a very gooddesign. one thing that I learned in my 55 years in aviation leave the thinkingto others. most of us are not properly equipped to be thinking. You obviously place great value on smart people and to leave the thinking to peoplethat have this ability, and to the use of the F word. How does a personknow when they are qualified to think on their own? And if they are not qualified,how does a person develop this capacity? Would reading and contributingto a forum such as this be a legitimate method? I also understand you are ateacher of some sort. Do you encourage your students to think on their own orare they simply required to provide rote answers to your questions? Do you toleratetheir use of the F word in class?And lastly, on 11 NOV 13 you wrote: the last pencils I bought came from a drunk indian on the street Glendale, azMy question is not if you are a racist. The answer to that is obvious. My questionfor you and Mr. Dralle is how have you been allowed to remain on this forumwith your vulgar, hateful, and racist language for over a year and a half?Doug WrightStillwater, OKRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Annual Progress Report

Original Posted By: kevinpurtee
Looks fantastic!Great job!Jon A-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Kevin, YOU ARE DA MAN!I think everyone's collective "hat" is off to you sir for your resolutionand speed with which you've created another masterpiece.See you next week, WX permitting.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Progress Report

Original Posted By: "echobravo4"
Kevin and Shelly,Beautiful, Just beautiful. It's a shame you have to cover it. Are you going touse the same colors? I hope you do. Those colors remind me of mine before Ichanged it to green. Sometimes I wish I had kept the old colors. Keep up the good work,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Progress Report

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Awesome work guys!--------Earl BrownI may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where Iintended to be.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 05:57:56 -0700

Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
How to fill & then bleed toe brakes on kolb mark 3 xtra. No reservior just a pistoncyclinder. [Question]Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Progress Report

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Shelly's stencil cutting magic is all over my airplane. )GeneOn Jul 16, 2014, at 1:56 PM, "kevinpurtee" wrote:> > Hi Jim - Shelley has a stencil cutting machine and she worked her magic.> > --------> Kevin "Axel" Purtee> Rebuilding NX899KP> Austin/San Marcos, TX> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 788#426788> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Got a little on mine, too!Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----