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Pietenpol-List: Help us Noobs out

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:11 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "gsnewsome"
Mike and anyone else interested, the Waynesville (red stewart field) annualLabor Day air show and fly-in will be August 30 and 31. There is an airshowon the afternoon f the 30th and one that evening, but we can fly in earlierthat day. The 31st is the "taildragger" fly-in with a pancake breakfast.Since there's so many piets in the surrounding areas, it would be really funif we could get a bunch up there.Here's the link againhttp://www.stewartsaircraft.net/airshow-2014.htmlthe field's website is www.stewartsaircraft.netMike D, my airfield designator is k62. Gene Snyder near Falmouth KY. It'sabout 45 minutes south of Waynesville, though you're gonna have to land onasphalt.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Help us Noobs out

Pietenpol-List: Re: Spar analysis

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:23 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
What was the deciding factor in choosing the Piet?This may help a few others take the plunge...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spar analysis

Pietenpol-List: Re: Help us Noobs out

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:30 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "tools"
I concur with the other guys above. There is nothing that requires all posts beread.As for the content of the thread, I'm interested in it, not because I want to redesignanything or prove that BHP was a genius but because it's an interestingintellectual exercise. I enjoy learning about new and different subjects thathave relevance to aviation whether it's Pietenpol specific or not. There are some on this list who see no value in it and they are entitled to theiropinion. For them to condemn those who want to learn and explore is a violationof my mother's dictum of "If you can't say something nice, SHUT UP!!!"DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Help us Noobs out

Pietenpol-List: Re: Help us Noobs out

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:35 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "dgaldrich"
For me:1. I'm a woodworker, and it's a wood airplane2. Not expensive in the "normal ways", instruments, complicated wheels/brakes,big pricey motor, etc3. While people complain, the plans are pretty complete. MUCH more so than abunch of others I scrutinized carefully. You DON'T need to be an aeronauticalengineer to build it.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Help us Noobs out

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spar analysis

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:41 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
There are several things about the Pietenpol that set it apart.1. It has a fascinating history.2. It's built out of readily available materials.3. It's got an open cockpit and tandem seat.4. There are a number of reasonable engine choices.5. The Pietenpol community is beyond compare for support and general overall "niceness".Civil discourse is the norm.6. You can paint "NX1234" in huge letters on the wings just like Lindbergh.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spar analysis

Pietenpol-List: Re: Spar analysis

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:14 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Jesus Christ...no one has "condemned" anyone, nor suggested they leave the thread,or take it offline, or anything else. I TRIED to encourage someone to pick a reasonable max gross weight and move onwith building. The whole, never-ending stress analysis is interesting but notparticularly helpful for choosing a max gross unless you are going to continuethe exercise for the entire aircraft. The strut fittings or wing attach boltsare likely to fail long before reaching a limit for the spars themselves whichwere being discussed. All of those getting on a high horse and "defending" theothers' rights to keep posting need to step back and look at what was actuallybeing said, and what was not being said. You are right, if I don't want to hear it I don't have to read. The stress analysiswas interesting, the hysteria is not. I've unsubscribed before for over ayear, I guess I should have stayed there. Like Gallagher said "why can't theTV have more intelligent programming? I keep turning up the brightness but itdoesn't help!"I'll SHUT UP and unsubscribe, again. GeneOn Aug 3, 2014, at 3:30 PM, "dgaldrich" wrote:> > I concur with the other guys above. There is nothing that requires all postsbe read.> > As for the content of the thread, I'm interested in it, not because I want toredesign anything or prove that BHP was a genius but because it's an interestingintellectual exercise. I enjoy learning about new and different subjectsthat have relevance to aviation whether it's Pietenpol specific or not. > > There are some on this list who see no value in it and they are entitled to theiropinion. For them to condemn those who want to learn and explore is a violationof my mother's dictum of "If you can't say something nice, SHUT UP!!!"> > Dave> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 871#427871> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Spar analysis

Pietenpol-List: Re: Help us Noobs out

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:24 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
Bald eagle,I could be wrong but I took Dan's comment to be more of a commentary on the sourcethan the message it self. At least that is how I took it.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Help us Noobs out

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:28 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
1. It is LSA compliant for those of us pentagenarians and older who may get tiredof arguing with the FAA over physicals.2. I have shown Pietenpol pictures to probably 200 co-pilots I have flown withand the first word out of the mouths is virtually the same with all of them-COOL!!--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

RE: Pietenpol-List: Help us Noobs out

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:19 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
For me, the main attraction was that I used to own a Piper J-3 Cub, until mypractice wife came home one day and opened a bill for hangar rent and gaveme an ultimatum: "Either the airplane goes, or I go". Foolishly, I soldthe airplane (I should have just divorced her on the spot and saved myself12 years of misery). Anyway, as the marriage was ending I realized I really missed that Cub, butby then Cub prices were out of sight and I couldn't afford one (stillcan't). I had flown a Pietenpol years before (actually it was a GN-1) andfound it to fly very much like a Cub, so when I decided to build a plane, itwas a natural choice.I also was attracted to a wooden airplane since I didn't know how to weld.I quickly found there are an awful lot of welded parts on this airplane, soI bought an oxy-acetylene rig and had a good welder come and give me someinstruction. By the time I was done, I was a fair welder and am pleasedwith the welds on my plane (although the aileron horns, which were the firstparts I welded, look pretty rough).If you want something with really good performance, build an RV or a Zenith.However, if you want an airplane that will turn heads on the ramp, and flylike a good honest airplane, build a Pietenpol.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Help us Noobs out

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:32 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help us Noobs out