Pietenpol-List: OUR forum
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:34 am
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Hey all,I completely agree that we all need to work to elevate the "tone" of OURforum. For many, many months now, I've been troubled by the slide from anupbeat, light and informative group to a more negative, nit-picky andsour-sounding one.I know for a fact this is the reason that many of the older members haveremoved themselves. As has been observed, this is a shame because they arethe very people who patiently answered my questions for ten years while Ibuilt.It is not necessary to be negative in any way, nor is it necessary to beoverly sensitive and response to every single thing posted that we don'tlike. It is VERY possible to counter bad-advice or incorrect information ina nice way without getting into a personal "p----ssing contest".If someone posts something stupid or dangerous, then we should certainlyrespond; but we should respond to the information rather than the person.And if they are jerks, and freak out when anyone confronts them or has adifferent opinion.. Let it go. or take it off list so we don't all have toread twenty emails going back and forth about little issues, grammarmistakes, personality issues etc.Maybe it would be helpful to come up with a list of "List etiquettesuggestions" here's my start.1. NEW BUILDERS "NEWBIES" ARE IMPORTANT, SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND AREONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THE LIST EXISTS. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PIETBUILDERS. BECAUSE THEY ARE NEW BUILDERS, THEY WILL ASK THE SAME QUESTIONSYOU ASKED WHEN YOU WERE A NEW BUILDER AND THEY WONT KNOW ABOUT, OR MIGHT NOTFIND THE ANSWER EASILY IN THE ARCHIVE.2. IF DIVERSE OPINIONS ARE HELD, ADDRESS/FOCUS ON THE ISSUE RATHERTHAN THE INDIVIDUAL.3. STAY POSITIVE, HELPFUL AND GENTLEMANLY (GENTLEWOMANLY)4. BEAR WITH THE ANNOYING PEOPLE, THEY USUALLY DISAPPEAR. IF YOU MUSTCONFRONT THEM, DO IT OFF THE LIST5. IF SOMEONE PERSISTS ON USING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE, IMMEDIATELYCONTACT MATT DRALLE AND HAVE THEM WARNED/BLOCKED6. ??I think we'd all do well to remember grandmas advice, IF YOU DON'T HAVEANYTHING NICE TO SAY, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
Hey all,I completely agree that we all need to work to elevate the "tone" of OURforum. For many, many months now, I've been troubled by the slide from anupbeat, light and informative group to a more negative, nit-picky andsour-sounding one.I know for a fact this is the reason that many of the older members haveremoved themselves. As has been observed, this is a shame because they arethe very people who patiently answered my questions for ten years while Ibuilt.It is not necessary to be negative in any way, nor is it necessary to beoverly sensitive and response to every single thing posted that we don'tlike. It is VERY possible to counter bad-advice or incorrect information ina nice way without getting into a personal "p----ssing contest".If someone posts something stupid or dangerous, then we should certainlyrespond; but we should respond to the information rather than the person.And if they are jerks, and freak out when anyone confronts them or has adifferent opinion.. Let it go. or take it off list so we don't all have toread twenty emails going back and forth about little issues, grammarmistakes, personality issues etc.Maybe it would be helpful to come up with a list of "List etiquettesuggestions" here's my start.1. NEW BUILDERS "NEWBIES" ARE IMPORTANT, SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND AREONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THE LIST EXISTS. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PIETBUILDERS. BECAUSE THEY ARE NEW BUILDERS, THEY WILL ASK THE SAME QUESTIONSYOU ASKED WHEN YOU WERE A NEW BUILDER AND THEY WONT KNOW ABOUT, OR MIGHT NOTFIND THE ANSWER EASILY IN THE ARCHIVE.2. IF DIVERSE OPINIONS ARE HELD, ADDRESS/FOCUS ON THE ISSUE RATHERTHAN THE INDIVIDUAL.3. STAY POSITIVE, HELPFUL AND GENTLEMANLY (GENTLEWOMANLY)4. BEAR WITH THE ANNOYING PEOPLE, THEY USUALLY DISAPPEAR. IF YOU MUSTCONFRONT THEM, DO IT OFF THE LIST5. IF SOMEONE PERSISTS ON USING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE, IMMEDIATELYCONTACT MATT DRALLE AND HAVE THEM WARNED/BLOCKED6. ??I think we'd all do well to remember grandmas advice, IF YOU DON'T HAVEANYTHING NICE TO SAY, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________