Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Amen to that DouweSent from my iPhone> On Aug 19, 2014, at 8:34 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" wrote:> > Hey all,> > I completely agree that we all need to work to elevate the =9Ctone=9D of OUR forum. For many, many months now, I=99ve been troubled by the slide from an upbeat, light and informative group to a more negative, nit-picky and sour-sounding one.> > I know for a fact this is the reason that many of the older members have removed themselves. As has been observed, this is a shame because they are the very people who patiently answered my questions for ten years while I built.> > It is not necessary to be negative in any way, nor is it necessary to be overly sensitive and response to every single thing posted that we don=99t like. It is VERY possible to counter bad-advice or incorrect information in a nice way without getting into a personal =9Cp----ssing contest=9D.> > If someone posts something stupid or dangerous, then we should certainly respond; but we should respond to the information rather than the person. And if they are jerks, and freak out when anyone confronts them or has a different opinion. Let it go or take it off list so we don=99t all have to read twenty emails going back and forth about little issues, grammar mistakes, personality issues etc.> > Maybe it would be helpful to come up with a list of =9CList etiquette suggestions=9D here=99s my start.> > 1. NEW BUILDERS =9CNEWBIES=9D ARE IMPORTANT, SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND ARE ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THE LIST EXISTS. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PIET BUILDERS. BECAUSE THEY ARE NEW BUILDERS, THEY WILL ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS YOU ASKED WHEN YOU WERE A NEW BUILDER AND THEY WONT KNOW ABOUT, OR MIGHT NOT FIND THE ANSWER EASILY IN THE ARCHIVE.> 2. IF DIVERSE OPINIONS ARE HELD, ADDRESS/FOCUS ON THE ISSUE RATHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL.> 3. STAY POSITIVE, HELPFUL AND GENTLEMANLY (GENTLEWOMANLY)> 4. BEAR WITH THE ANNOYING PEOPLE, THEY USUALLY DISAPPEAR. IF YOU MUST CONFRONT THEM, DO IT OFF THE LIST> 5. IF SOMEONE PERSISTS ON USING OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE, IMMEDIATELY CONTACT MATT DRALLE AND HAVE THEM WARNED/BLOCKED> 6. ??> > I think we=99d all do well to remember grandmas advice, IF YOU DON=99T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY, DON=99T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.> > Douwe> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3M T-88 glue dispensing gun....

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Hello Good Piet-Ple,Well things are back on track with my 1931 Pietenpol project - afterhaving taken a few brief steps "backwards" by replacing the two rearspars.The first image shows the previous and current spar sections. The sparon the left was the one the original wing builder installed. (I boughtmy wings from another builder who had started a Pietenpol project.)But that particular spar was not up to the fine quality of the rest ofhis wing construction. The "cup" in the spar section in particular wasmaking it difficult to integrate the spar with the wingcenter-section, and wing strut fittings. So I replaced both rearspars. (See other writings for my spar/router screw-up adventure.)I now have a new set of routed rear spars that are glued in place. Iused a new 3M "dispensing gun" to apply the aircraft-grade structuralT-88 epoxy. The special tips mix the resin/hardener in the tip itselfas you dispense it from the gun - which eliminates all the mixing/messof using epoxy in from large bottles. Depending on the aspect of theproject, this gun may be more effective than glue from large bottlesmixed in the traditional manner. It was certainly more expensive touse these special tubes, but it worked really well for gluing thespars.Next step in the project is to get back to joining these wing sectionsto the center-section spars - the step I was beginning before I choseto replace the spars. I feel good about the choice to do so - evenconsidering the setbacks.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wing ... ______Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:49 -0700

Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
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