Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "gsnewsome"
I am still looking for a new old stock Forest Lovely radiator for a Ford ModelA. If anyone has a extra one or one they decided not to use let me know. Thanks Rob 812-932-9000Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website

Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
Curious if plans ordered from the Pietenpol family are received with an assignedaircraft serial number?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Mine were.Scott Knowlton Burlington OnSent from my iPad> On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:36 PM, "gsnewsome" wrote:> > > Curious if plans ordered from the Pietenpol family are received with an assignedaircraft serial number?> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 042#432042> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Not unless they have recently started doing so. Generally only kitmanufacturers do that. You are free to number yours any way you wish. Minehappens to be Serial Number 101, and I am listed as the manufacturer. And Idid buy my plans from the Pietenpol family, from BHP's son (Andrew'sfather), back in 1996.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
No number on mine. Just make one up.ChrisSacramento, CAWestcoastPiet.com-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
First sit in the piet...Actual seat will be ~.5in lower than pictured. Anyone have a good reference forseat height?Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/firs ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website

Original Posted By: "taildrags"
The attached page was in my plans set. I suppose it really just denotes the plan copy number.... I imagine it could be included as part of the serial number of your aircraft if it is desired.Yes, I know.... Plans were received in '03..... Life sometimes gets in the way of a good airplane project.... Scott KSent from my iPad> On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:36 PM, "gsnewsome" wrote:> net>> > Curious if plans ordered from the Pietenpol family are received with an assigned aircraft serial number?> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 042#432042> > > > > > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat?

Original Posted By: "curtdm(at)gmail.com"
Best advice is "build it to the plans" ;o) I believe my Piet seat is built toplans and I still find myself hunching down behind the windscreen when it's chilly.If you want, I can measure the front and rear heights of my seat, but my guessis that it's per plans. I only have a thin padding of foam and naugahyde on mine,although I've flown it with a store-bought chair cushion and also with atypical boat floatation cushion and both of those put me a little higher in theslipstream than I like.What style of landing gear are you planning to use?--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website

Original Posted By: "gsnewsome"
Almost 1400 sets of plans in 7 years. That's a lot of spruce.--------Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website

Original Posted By: Scott Knowlton
Popular airplane - ThanksRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website

Original Posted By: "tools"
Most people make it out of Spruce actually.... . You're welcome! SK Sent from my iPhone> On Oct 19, 2014, at 5:38 PM, "gsnewsome" wrote:> > > Popular airplane - Thanks> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 052#432052> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat?

Original Posted By: "taildrags"
"Build it to plans..."That's really kind of a joke. BUT, when it comes to weird little things likeseat placement, height, angle, etc, it's true. Just don't worry about it much.Same with control rigging, moments, incidence, blah blah. Absolutely don't worry about a quarter of an inch here or there due to plywoodthickness, cumulative error or whatever. Basically stick to the most obvious intentof the plans and it'll be fine. I absolutely agree with the big three... STOUT angled cabanas, flexible fuel tubingfrom the wing tank and certainty about balance, but otherwise, don't fretit too much. Anything less than half an hour doesn't matter. From there to anhour and a half is questionable, more than that you can't make a Piet comfortable,is basically the deal. So consider what you'll be doing the most. For mostof us, most flights are less than an hour, with twenty min flights being thenorm. Probably the most important priority is weight followed by simplicity, just thatsimple. Your project is looking great!ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat?

Original Posted By: "GNflyer"
I'm with 'tools' as far as duration of flights. Many of mine, 0.5 or so in thelogbook, are just to get the airplane out, warm up the oil, and make a coupleof circuits of the field to stay current and to challenge my skills. For thistype of flight you won't be up long enough to feel the seat padding, the coldor heat, or much of anything else... the thrill of flight will be the dominantsensation.The next most popular type of flight that I make, anywhere from 0.5 to 1.0 in thelogbook, is when I go out to survey the landscape, observe enemy movements,and sometimes to run through stalls and airmanship maneuvers. I'll make a strafingrun on a freight train or suspected enemy encampment as needed to confirmVne in a maximum dive and pull-up after dropping my bombs on the train, butmostly I'll be at 1500-2000 MSL looking at the scenery, the change of seasons,and just enjoying the airplane. For these flights, I might notice my headset'clamping' towards the end of a flight, or I might feel a chill up my pantslegs if the air is cool, or I might notice having to hold aft stick if the nosetank was full when I started- but not much else. This is Pietenpoling at itsfinest.The least frequent type of flight that I make is in excess of 1.0 in the logbookand can be a hop over to a nearby field for an event, or a short x-c, or ina rare instance, a "long" (for me) x-c of several fuel stops and a day or so oftravel each way. On those flights, I definitely notice the seat padding, thesuitability of my clothing for the weather, the CG shift as fuel burns, thetightness of the headset, and a lot of other things as the flight progresses.After about 2.0, I want to get on the ground, stretch, fuel up, check oil, andinspect the airplane.I have never flown Scout for more than about 4.0 at a time, so you iron-butt guyswill have to chime in here. I can say that the angle of the seat bottom reallybegins to play a big part in cockpit comfort after 2.0 in the seat, or maybeit's just us slimmer pilots, because my tailbones really begin to feel theplywood seat bottom after about 90-120 minutes in the seat. There is no wayfor me to shift my weight onto my thighs because of the geometric relationshipof the rudder bar to the pilot's seat, so I settle into the "lift and shift"weight transfer mode and tough it out after that.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat?

Original Posted By: "Riegerb"
my front seat height turned into a problem- basically because the one time I flewwith a passenger I found it impossible to use the rudder pedals without interferencewith his backside and my feet. I made a raised seat piece and installedit but have not flown with a passenger sine. this says more about my big feetthan the width of his posterior. maybe a genuine Piet has different clearanceissues than a Grega but I can't imagine that much difference thereRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat?

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Thanks for the all the info Tools... these are great anecdotes to work by. Lovethe stories Oscar =) I attached a picture of the landing gear I'm using...GNflyer, could you explain how your feet were interfering with the passenger? Yourtoes were clipping the passenger seat/backside and you raised the seat tochange the angle of your feet using the rudder?I've read some old posts that suggest not completely gluing in the seat until yourcontrol assembly is dry fitted to make sure everything has appropriate clearance.I'll certainly do this but also want to make sure my head isn't in thewind stream with (some) seat padding... =pRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tumb ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
While the majority of flights are short, if you ever plan to fly it toBrodhead and you don't live in the midwest, you can plan on some miserablylong flights. I've flown mine to Brodhead 5 times, and each time requiresabout 13 hours flying time, each way. One year I did it all in one day(never again!). I took off from Raleigh NC just before dawn and landed atBrodhead about 20 minutes after sunset.I've done a number of cross-countries in mine (other than going to and fromBrodhead), ranging from an hour and a half to five hours or more, so don'tthink you'll never fly more than 30 minutes.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: Jim Boyer