Original Posted By: "John m. Greenlee"
Stevee,I'm just now where you were on Jun. 12/97. Just re-read your message to the discussion group on the subject of laytex paint. I've just this week-end finished spraying the clear nitrocelulose over Latex. When I first mixed it with thinner 50/50 in an old latex can I got worried. The solution did soften/disolve the cured latex on the upper side of the can. Without disturbing the mixture I quickly poured it into a clean container. I then spray tested a small removable access panel of my center section. There was no problem at all with the dope over the latex, since it dries so fast. I carried on and after two days of preperation and spraying the 1st nitro dope layer is complete. This is the same paint system that Brian Kenney has used. I looked at his paint at the Brussels, Ont. flyin and after 8-9 years he has not developed any cracks. The only problem Brian pointed out was with the registration markings which were painted in enamel in a darker color to the surrounding area.So? How did your paint turn out. What colors did you finally chose? Did you include any kind of design/ paint scheme?Regards, Domenico Bellissimo________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Robert M. Bailey"
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote> So? How did your paint turn out. What colors did you finally chose?> Did you> include any kind of design/ paint scheme?>> Regards, >> Domenico Bellissimo I did spray the final color coats two weekends ago. I sprayed sherwinwilliams super paint high gloss with a Wagner 505 airless sprayer. Theresults were pleasing. I did learn some good lessons however. I willnot spray in direct sunlight on a hot day again. They drying time istoo fast for the paint to flow after it hits the surface. With the flatprimer coats there was not a problem however. I rolled the fuse afterit became aparrent that I had screwed up by applying to thick a coat. Ithought all was a loss, but after the night passed and I came back tooit I was happily surprised with the results. The fuse and vertical tailsurfaces are Ivy green and the wings and horiz parts are Everest white.I am very pleased with how it is comming together. I looks great. Ihope to have the lettering applied soon. I will do 24" N-number on thewings and the Pietenpol oval emblem on the sides. The emblem and smalln-numbers will all be vinyl. Hopefully when I get done it will looklike a brand new old airplane. Total cost in paint came to just over$100.Steve E.________________________________________________________________________________
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote> So? How did your paint turn out. What colors did you finally chose?> Did you> include any kind of design/ paint scheme?>> Regards, >> Domenico Bellissimo I did spray the final color coats two weekends ago. I sprayed sherwinwilliams super paint high gloss with a Wagner 505 airless sprayer. Theresults were pleasing. I did learn some good lessons however. I willnot spray in direct sunlight on a hot day again. They drying time istoo fast for the paint to flow after it hits the surface. With the flatprimer coats there was not a problem however. I rolled the fuse afterit became aparrent that I had screwed up by applying to thick a coat. Ithought all was a loss, but after the night passed and I came back tooit I was happily surprised with the results. The fuse and vertical tailsurfaces are Ivy green and the wings and horiz parts are Everest white.I am very pleased with how it is comming together. I looks great. Ihope to have the lettering applied soon. I will do 24" N-number on thewings and the Pietenpol oval emblem on the sides. The emblem and smalln-numbers will all be vinyl. Hopefully when I get done it will looklike a brand new old airplane. Total cost in paint came to just over$100.Steve E.________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: jimvan1(at)juno.com
Hi Tom,The color doping is only so so. I'm not too happy with the finish although I've not put the final coat on yet. There are some good areas where the sheen in the dope stands out, but the overspray, or humidity is affecting other areas. I'm sanding in between even though I hadn't planned on it. Consequently the surface is getting smooth but posibly heavier. I don't know how many coats of butyrate I should be applying. I've done two coats for sure but I've been flipping the Fuselage over on all sides and think I've lost count. I spent another 24 hrs. painting and sanding this past week-end. Anyway the humidity is going to be high all week so there goes another week. Saturday I tried an experiment after having installed a water separator on my air tank. I took a tube (ABS) about two inch dia. and capped both ends.drilled two holes close to each end. Inside I filled the container desicant with some fibre-glass cloth at the outlet end to keep the desicant from shooting up the air line. Pressurized the container and when it reached approx. 40 lbs. it exploded from the inlet end. Ann was standing near by and the noise made her jump at least 5 feet. Still think it will work. I've got to try this with some thicker end caps or steel pipe that can be screwed together. This should absorb any residual moisture downlie from the water separator and catch any oil from the compressor. I found even with the separator I was getting some black oilly stuff on the surface of the fuselage. It's either coming from the compressor or the separator itself? Next I'm going to try reducing the pressure at the gun an see if this reduces the overspray which I suspect is ruining what was previously applied.I sent you 'E'mail on Friday but It returned undelivered. I'm told there was a problem with 'Firewall' from my end. Firewall is an interesting term don't you think. It's the server that fires out the mail in post office.Regards,Dom. ________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Tom,The color doping is only so so. I'm not too happy with the finish although I've not put the final coat on yet. There are some good areas where the sheen in the dope stands out, but the overspray, or humidity is affecting other areas. I'm sanding in between even though I hadn't planned on it. Consequently the surface is getting smooth but posibly heavier. I don't know how many coats of butyrate I should be applying. I've done two coats for sure but I've been flipping the Fuselage over on all sides and think I've lost count. I spent another 24 hrs. painting and sanding this past week-end. Anyway the humidity is going to be high all week so there goes another week. Saturday I tried an experiment after having installed a water separator on my air tank. I took a tube (ABS) about two inch dia. and capped both ends.drilled two holes close to each end. Inside I filled the container desicant with some fibre-glass cloth at the outlet end to keep the desicant from shooting up the air line. Pressurized the container and when it reached approx. 40 lbs. it exploded from the inlet end. Ann was standing near by and the noise made her jump at least 5 feet. Still think it will work. I've got to try this with some thicker end caps or steel pipe that can be screwed together. This should absorb any residual moisture downlie from the water separator and catch any oil from the compressor. I found even with the separator I was getting some black oilly stuff on the surface of the fuselage. It's either coming from the compressor or the separator itself? Next I'm going to try reducing the pressure at the gun an see if this reduces the overspray which I suspect is ruining what was previously applied.I sent you 'E'mail on Friday but It returned undelivered. I'm told there was a problem with 'Firewall' from my end. Firewall is an interesting term don't you think. It's the server that fires out the mail in post office.Regards,Dom. ________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Sayre, William G"
Andy Wrote: My friend's concern was: Is the main color of the plane too close to> sky blue? Would I be nearly invisible from below? Had'nt thought much> about paint schemes/visibility until now.A historical note, Bernard's Piet was robin egg blue.Mike ( Piet N687MB )________________________________________________________________________________
Andy Wrote: My friend's concern was: Is the main color of the plane too close to> sky blue? Would I be nearly invisible from below? Had'nt thought much> about paint schemes/visibility until now.A historical note, Bernard's Piet was robin egg blue.Mike ( Piet N687MB )________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
I worried about that until I realized how well a white airplane shows upfrom a distance (they're all black dots right?). You'd think you wouldn'tspot them with clouds behind them. Besides, the roundels will help make youvisible (or provide a target!)I'd say do it. Ya gota keep your head on a swivel either way!Bill> My friend's concern was: Is the main color of the plane too close to> sky blue? Would I be nearly invisible from below? Had'nt thought much> about paint schemes/visibility until now.>________________________________________________________________________________
I worried about that until I realized how well a white airplane shows upfrom a distance (they're all black dots right?). You'd think you wouldn'tspot them with clouds behind them. Besides, the roundels will help make youvisible (or provide a target!)I'd say do it. Ya gota keep your head on a swivel either way!Bill> My friend's concern was: Is the main color of the plane too close to> sky blue? Would I be nearly invisible from below? Had'nt thought much> about paint schemes/visibility until now.>________________________________________________________________________________