Original Posted By: "David B. Schober"
>>>On Wednesday, April 22, 1998 8:43 AM, David B. Schober >[SMTP:dbs(at)fscvax.wvnet.edu] wrote:>> Please read an excerpt from FAR 61.31 regarding operations as pilot in >command>> of tailwheel aircraft: 61.31 (i) Additional training required for >operating>> tailwheel airplanes.>> (1) Except as provided in paragraph (i)(2) of this section, no person may >act>> as pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that person has >received and>> logged flight training from an authorized instructor in a tailwheel >airplane>> and received an endorsement in the person's logbook from an authorized>> instructor who found the person proficient in the operation of a >tailwheel>> airplane. The flight training must include at least the following the >maneuvers>> and procedures:>> (i) Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings;>> (ii) Wheel landings (unless the manufacturer has recommended against >such>> landings); and>> (iii) Go-around procedures.>> (2) The training and endorsement required by paragraph (i)(1) of this >section>> is not required if the person logged pilot-in-command time in a tailwheel>> airplane before April 15, 1991.>>>> I hope this clears up any misconception.>>>>>>All the above is true, however it does not apply to experimentals. You can >legally fly an experimental taildragger without the endorsement. Not >recommended, but legal.>>Stevee>I stand corrected! This has changed since I got my ticket. One otherthing: why doesn't this apply to experimentals? You are absolutely correctabout it not being recommended! But I doubt they will be able to writerules to cover all the "lack of judgement" issues. Seems like they aretrying to legislate safety when all that is really accomplished is more redtape.Jim________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: tailwheel endorsements
Pietenpol-List: RE: tailwheel endorsements
Original Posted By: Jim Wright
> >> >All the above is true, however it does not apply to experimentals. You can> >legally fly an experimental taildragger without the endorsement. Not> >recommended, but legal.> >> >Stevee> >> I stand corrected! This has changed since I got my ticket. One other> thing: why doesn't this apply to experimentals? You are absolutely correct> about it not being recommended! But I doubt they will be able to write> rules to cover all the "lack of judgement" issues. Seems like they are> trying to legislate safety when all that is really accomplished is more red> tape.>> JimOkay, here is my reference. 61.31(g) Tailwheel Airplanes. No person may act as pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that pilot has received flight instruction from an authorized flight instructor who has found the pilot competent to operate a tailwheel airplane and has made a one time endorsement so stating in the pilot's logbook. The endorsement must certify that the pilot is competent in normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings, wheel landings unless the manufacturer has recommended against such landings, and go-around procedures. This endorsement is not required if a pilot has logged flight time as pilot in command of tailwheel airplanes prior to April 15, 1991. 61.31(h) Exception. This section does not require a class rating for gliders, or category and class ratings for aircraft that are not type certificated as airplanes, rotorcraft, or lighter-than-air aircraft. In addition, the rating limitations of this section do not apply to - 61.31(h)(1) The holder of a student pilot certificate; 61.31(h)(2) The holder of a recreational pilot certificate when operating under the provisions of ? 61.101(f), (g), and (h). 61.31(h)(3) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft under the authority of an experimental or provisional type certificate;I am not a FAA interpreter, but to me the above exception means that if you are a private pilot flying an experimental type certificated a/c you are not required to have an endorsement. I could be wrong, it has happened before.Again -the point here is you can still do stupid things and be legal. I would never suggest that someone just hop in a exp. taildragger without instruction and take off. Some times common sense isn't governed. Most of the time it is, it doesn't end up making sense.Here for the fun of it...Steve E.________________________________________________________________________________
> >> >All the above is true, however it does not apply to experimentals. You can> >legally fly an experimental taildragger without the endorsement. Not> >recommended, but legal.> >> >Stevee> >> I stand corrected! This has changed since I got my ticket. One other> thing: why doesn't this apply to experimentals? You are absolutely correct> about it not being recommended! But I doubt they will be able to write> rules to cover all the "lack of judgement" issues. Seems like they are> trying to legislate safety when all that is really accomplished is more red> tape.>> JimOkay, here is my reference. 61.31(g) Tailwheel Airplanes. No person may act as pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that pilot has received flight instruction from an authorized flight instructor who has found the pilot competent to operate a tailwheel airplane and has made a one time endorsement so stating in the pilot's logbook. The endorsement must certify that the pilot is competent in normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings, wheel landings unless the manufacturer has recommended against such landings, and go-around procedures. This endorsement is not required if a pilot has logged flight time as pilot in command of tailwheel airplanes prior to April 15, 1991. 61.31(h) Exception. This section does not require a class rating for gliders, or category and class ratings for aircraft that are not type certificated as airplanes, rotorcraft, or lighter-than-air aircraft. In addition, the rating limitations of this section do not apply to - 61.31(h)(1) The holder of a student pilot certificate; 61.31(h)(2) The holder of a recreational pilot certificate when operating under the provisions of ? 61.101(f), (g), and (h). 61.31(h)(3) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft under the authority of an experimental or provisional type certificate;I am not a FAA interpreter, but to me the above exception means that if you are a private pilot flying an experimental type certificated a/c you are not required to have an endorsement. I could be wrong, it has happened before.Again -the point here is you can still do stupid things and be legal. I would never suggest that someone just hop in a exp. taildragger without instruction and take off. Some times common sense isn't governed. Most of the time it is, it doesn't end up making sense.Here for the fun of it...Steve E.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel endorsements
Original Posted By: Gary Gower