Original Posted By: I
It's funny that no matter what the FAA says about tailwheelendorsements,the insurance companies have the last laugh. We bought our Champ before the 1991 endorsement rule, but to insure me with no prior tailwheel experienceI needed to fly 15 hours dual with an instructor who had at least 500hrs.TTT (total tailwheel time....my own little acronym)and at least 5 in makeand model. I bought lots of sausage and pepperoni pizza's to get thattime ! Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Tailwheel Deal
Pietenpol-List: Re: Tailwheel Deal
Original Posted By: "Richard F. Rapp"
>It's funny that no matter what the FAA says about tailwheel endorsements,>the insurance companies have the last laugh. > We bought our Champ before the 1991 >endorsement rule, but to insure me with no prior tailwheel experience>I needed to fly 15 hours dual with an instructor who had at least 500 hrs.>TTT (total tailwheel time....my own little acronym) and at least 5 in make>and model. I bought lots of sausage and pepperoni pizza's to get that>time ! Mike C. >Interesting. What do you do in a single seat aircraft like a Flybaby? Verydifficult to get any dual time! I'm glad I got my time before the new ruleskicked in. I was checked out in a Pietenpol while I was still a studentpilot. I wonder if there are any rules against that now....Jim S.________________________________________________________________________________
>It's funny that no matter what the FAA says about tailwheel endorsements,>the insurance companies have the last laugh. > We bought our Champ before the 1991 >endorsement rule, but to insure me with no prior tailwheel experience>I needed to fly 15 hours dual with an instructor who had at least 500 hrs.>TTT (total tailwheel time....my own little acronym) and at least 5 in make>and model. I bought lots of sausage and pepperoni pizza's to get that>time ! Mike C. >Interesting. What do you do in a single seat aircraft like a Flybaby? Verydifficult to get any dual time! I'm glad I got my time before the new ruleskicked in. I was checked out in a Pietenpol while I was still a studentpilot. I wonder if there are any rules against that now....Jim S.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Tailwheel Deal
Original Posted By: jkahn(at)picasso.dehavilland.ca (John Kahn)
On Wednesday, April 22, 1998 8:33 PM, Jim Skinner [SMTP:innovate(at)comsource.net] wrote:> >It's funny that no matter what the FAA says about tailwheel endorsements,> >the insurance companies have the last laugh.> > We bought our Champ before the 1991> >endorsement rule, but to insure me with no prior tailwheel experience> >I needed to fly 15 hours dual with an instructor who had at least 500 hrs.> >TTT (total tailwheel time....my own little acronym) and at least 5 in make> >and model. I bought lots of sausage and pepperoni pizza's to get that> >time ! Mike C.> >> Interesting. What do you do in a single seat aircraft like a Flybaby? Very> difficult to get any dual time! I'm glad I got my time before the new rules> kicked in. I was checked out in a Pietenpol while I was still a student> pilot. I wonder if there are any rules against that now....>> Jim S.As I understand it the rules still apply for single seat tailwheel aircraft. In this case you would have to get the tailwheel checkout in something else before soloing the Flybaby. From what I have heard the 'baby' isn't the plane to cut your tailwheel teeth in. As far as checking out as a student in a Piet- I think is can be done. The plane has to have the restrictions flown off and dual controls. Other than that there are no problems that I know of.Stevee________________________________________________________________________________
On Wednesday, April 22, 1998 8:33 PM, Jim Skinner [SMTP:innovate(at)comsource.net] wrote:> >It's funny that no matter what the FAA says about tailwheel endorsements,> >the insurance companies have the last laugh.> > We bought our Champ before the 1991> >endorsement rule, but to insure me with no prior tailwheel experience> >I needed to fly 15 hours dual with an instructor who had at least 500 hrs.> >TTT (total tailwheel time....my own little acronym) and at least 5 in make> >and model. I bought lots of sausage and pepperoni pizza's to get that> >time ! Mike C.> >> Interesting. What do you do in a single seat aircraft like a Flybaby? Very> difficult to get any dual time! I'm glad I got my time before the new rules> kicked in. I was checked out in a Pietenpol while I was still a student> pilot. I wonder if there are any rules against that now....>> Jim S.As I understand it the rules still apply for single seat tailwheel aircraft. In this case you would have to get the tailwheel checkout in something else before soloing the Flybaby. From what I have heard the 'baby' isn't the plane to cut your tailwheel teeth in. As far as checking out as a student in a Piet- I think is can be done. The plane has to have the restrictions flown off and dual controls. Other than that there are no problems that I know of.Stevee________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Tailwheel Deal
Original Posted By: Jim Skinner
>>As I understand it the rules still apply for single seat tailwheel >aircraft. In this case you would have to get the tailwheel checkout in >something else before soloing the Flybaby. From what I have heard the >'baby' isn't the plane to cut your tailwheel teeth in. As far as checking >out as a student in a Piet- I think is can be done. The plane has to have >the restrictions flown off and dual controls. Other than that there are no >problems that I know of.>>Stevee>>Thanks for the information. This groups discussions are VERY informative.However, I would take exception to the fact about the Flybaby being hard tohandle. I thought it handled about like the Pietenpol on the ground and waspretty well behaved. It's sink rate was very high with power off though.But I have to admit I don't have experience in any other taildraggers tocompare them to. And I should probably also say that the first time I madea high speed taxi it DID almost get away from me and the observers asked ifI was practicing turns aroung the landing lights! The airspeed indicatorwas not working and it built up speed VERY quickly. By the time I realizedthings weren't right I was in trouble. Anyone contemplating flying a taildragger is well advised to get some good instruction in a similar plane,double and triple checking everything, and proceeding VERY slowly.Jim________________________________________________________________________________
>>As I understand it the rules still apply for single seat tailwheel >aircraft. In this case you would have to get the tailwheel checkout in >something else before soloing the Flybaby. From what I have heard the >'baby' isn't the plane to cut your tailwheel teeth in. As far as checking >out as a student in a Piet- I think is can be done. The plane has to have >the restrictions flown off and dual controls. Other than that there are no >problems that I know of.>>Stevee>>Thanks for the information. This groups discussions are VERY informative.However, I would take exception to the fact about the Flybaby being hard tohandle. I thought it handled about like the Pietenpol on the ground and waspretty well behaved. It's sink rate was very high with power off though.But I have to admit I don't have experience in any other taildraggers tocompare them to. And I should probably also say that the first time I madea high speed taxi it DID almost get away from me and the observers asked ifI was practicing turns aroung the landing lights! The airspeed indicatorwas not working and it built up speed VERY quickly. By the time I realizedthings weren't right I was in trouble. Anyone contemplating flying a taildragger is well advised to get some good instruction in a similar plane,double and triple checking everything, and proceeding VERY slowly.Jim________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Tailwheel Deal
Original Posted By: Jim Skinner
Those seeking a tailwheel endorsement, should first find a good grassstrip.Grass is more forgiving than concerete or asphalt.. Then get checked out ineither a Cub, or a Champ... Then, if one is nearby check out in a Luscombe..Then make the transition to hard surfaces.. Have fun.. Keep em Flying..Dr. Orville Lanham________________________________________________________________________________
Those seeking a tailwheel endorsement, should first find a good grassstrip.Grass is more forgiving than concerete or asphalt.. Then get checked out ineither a Cub, or a Champ... Then, if one is nearby check out in a Luscombe..Then make the transition to hard surfaces.. Have fun.. Keep em Flying..Dr. Orville Lanham________________________________________________________________________________