Original Posted By: "McNarry, John"
All,Just tore down my Corvair engine and found it must have spent a fewyears out in the rain. Everything above the camshaft is badly rusted.Oh well, guess I'll have some spare (aluminum) parts!After I find and overhaul the next one, I'll be building a simple teststand. This will allow me to break in and modify engines withoutrisking the hull.I'll keep you posted...Larry________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Engine
Pietenpol-List: Engine
Original Posted By: steve(at)byu.edu
I just purchased a running Corvair engine. I'll get into it next week or=so. Keep us up-to-date on what you used materials and cost. Also, anyparts list or possible overhaul manuals?Thanks,Mark MorganBel Air Aviation800.Ohio Fly________________________________________________________________________________
I just purchased a running Corvair engine. I'll get into it next week or=so. Keep us up-to-date on what you used materials and cost. Also, anyparts list or possible overhaul manuals?Thanks,Mark MorganBel Air Aviation800.Ohio Fly________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: steve(at)byu.edu
Mark,The best source I've found so far is Clark's Corvair Parts.clarks(at)corvair.comGet thier catalog for $5 and the parts list is covered. I have not yet founda good shop manual but am looking for a Chiltons.LarryMark Morgan wrote:> I just purchased a running Corvair engine. I'll get into it next week or> so. Keep us up-to-date on what you used materials and cost. Also, any> parts list or possible overhaul manuals?>> Thanks,> Mark Morgan>> Bel Air Aviation> 800.Ohio Fly________________________________________________________________________________
Mark,The best source I've found so far is Clark's Corvair Parts.clarks(at)corvair.comGet thier catalog for $5 and the parts list is covered. I have not yet founda good shop manual but am looking for a Chiltons.LarryMark Morgan wrote:> I just purchased a running Corvair engine. I'll get into it next week or> so. Keep us up-to-date on what you used materials and cost. Also, any> parts list or possible overhaul manuals?>> Thanks,> Mark Morgan>> Bel Air Aviation> 800.Ohio Fly________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "McNarry, John"
>Another source;The Corvair Underground, PO Box 339, Dundee, OR 97115 1-800-825-vair.The 1965 Corvair Chassis Shop Manual is a must. Its about $15 from either ofthe above vendors. Details a rebuild. Also get on the Virtual Vairs mailinglist. They can answer any question. Any.William________________________________________________________________________________
>Another source;The Corvair Underground, PO Box 339, Dundee, OR 97115 1-800-825-vair.The 1965 Corvair Chassis Shop Manual is a must. Its about $15 from either ofthe above vendors. Details a rebuild. Also get on the Virtual Vairs mailinglist. They can answer any question. Any.William________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Paris Wilcox
I would like to talk to my friend Big "Jim" Vandervort. As you may alrea=dyknow, he flies a corvair powered 'Piet'. Didn't want to bother him athome.Jim, if you're still on-line, let us in on the wonders of the corvairengine, rebuilds, power, props, conversion, etc...Jim is a great guy and I thoroughly believe he knows alot about everythin=gor has a colorful opion.Piets forever....________________________________________________________________________________
I would like to talk to my friend Big "Jim" Vandervort. As you may alrea=dyknow, he flies a corvair powered 'Piet'. Didn't want to bother him athome.Jim, if you're still on-line, let us in on the wonders of the corvairengine, rebuilds, power, props, conversion, etc...Jim is a great guy and I thoroughly believe he knows alot about everythin=gor has a colorful opion.Piets forever....________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: David Scott
---Mark Morgan wrote:>> I would like to talk to my friend Big "Jim" Vandervort. As you mayalready> know, he flies a corvair powered 'Piet'. Didn't want to bother him at> home.> > Jim, if you're still on-line, let us in on the wonders of the corvair> engine, rebuilds, power, props, conversion, etc...> > Jim is a great guy and I thoroughly believe he knows alot abouteverything> or has a colorful opion.> > Piets forever....> I'll have to second that motion! I am planning on using a corvairalso and would love any info about it!Paris________________________________________________________________________________
---Mark Morgan wrote:>> I would like to talk to my friend Big "Jim" Vandervort. As you mayalready> know, he flies a corvair powered 'Piet'. Didn't want to bother him at> home.> > Jim, if you're still on-line, let us in on the wonders of the corvair> engine, rebuilds, power, props, conversion, etc...> > Jim is a great guy and I thoroughly believe he knows alot abouteverything> or has a colorful opion.> > Piets forever....> I'll have to second that motion! I am planning on using a corvairalso and would love any info about it!Paris________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Mike Lund"
Do any of you know of a Kinner, R-55 engine for sale? As long as it mikesout satisfactory for rebuild would be OK.Phil Phillips============================================================> > ________________________________________________________________________________
Do any of you know of a Kinner, R-55 engine for sale? As long as it mikesout satisfactory for rebuild would be OK.Phil Phillips============================================================> > ________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: jim hyde
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Original Posted By: "tools"
Jim,Good points all. Why don't we as a group set out over the next 30 days to postonly building questions, building techniques, and the occasional motivationalphoto or video and see where that leads? It may reset the tone back to whereit should be. Maybe even refrain from the "inside jokes" for a bit as that cantend to put off new guys. Not forever. Just 30 days.What drew me to this forum was just such informational postings. And if it is inthe archives, just make nice for 30 days and answer the question.I obviously have no control over the forum. I am merely throwing out an idea. Ifyou have a better idea, by all means, speak up.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
Jim,Good points all. Why don't we as a group set out over the next 30 days to postonly building questions, building techniques, and the occasional motivationalphoto or video and see where that leads? It may reset the tone back to whereit should be. Maybe even refrain from the "inside jokes" for a bit as that cantend to put off new guys. Not forever. Just 30 days.What drew me to this forum was just such informational postings. And if it is inthe archives, just make nice for 30 days and answer the question.I obviously have no control over the forum. I am merely throwing out an idea. Ifyou have a better idea, by all means, speak up.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
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Original Posted By: Robert Gow
Surprised none of the A flyers have chimed in...Honestly, none of those mods are really very specific to an A. Installing insertsis nothing more than line boring, any decent hot rod/performance shop shouldbe able to do that for you.Drilling the crank, also not rocket sciency.Oversized valves, again, decent performance shop.For an A, you really need a specialist if you need the thing rebabbited, otherwise,it's typical engine machine work. A standard machine shop or general enginebuilder probably can't do it, but the performance shops should be able todo what you want. Including reboring, honing and reconditioning a crank.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:46:44 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
Surprised none of the A flyers have chimed in...Honestly, none of those mods are really very specific to an A. Installing insertsis nothing more than line boring, any decent hot rod/performance shop shouldbe able to do that for you.Drilling the crank, also not rocket sciency.Oversized valves, again, decent performance shop.For an A, you really need a specialist if you need the thing rebabbited, otherwise,it's typical engine machine work. A standard machine shop or general enginebuilder probably can't do it, but the performance shops should be able todo what you want. Including reboring, honing and reconditioning a crank.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:46:44 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
Original Posted By: Robert Gow
[from Contact! editor, Pat Panzera:]Friends,Id like to take a moment to let you know that we are about to deliver our special,85th Pietenpol anniversary issue of CONTACT! Magazine, and to thank all ofyou who were at Brodhead or AirVenture and either bought the single issue orwent the distance and subscribed to CONTACT! And I'd especially like to thank ALL who participated in the making of this issue.If its wasn't for your generosity of information, we wouldn't have this awesomeissue. It was our great pleasure to work with these individuals that helped us createthis special 32 page issue filled with Pietenpol articles: http://tinyurl.com/CM-Issue108Heres the table of contents: Dan Helspers Ford A Powered Pietenpol. Oscar Zuniga introduces us to a specialPietenpol built by Dan Helsper, who did his best to stick to the plans whereverpractical, including the engine.Ol Tattered Wingtips. Pietenpol patriarch Donald Doc Mosher tells of some of theinside tips that help fill in the gaps left in the various Pietenpol plan setscurrently available.Got Gas? Steve Williamson, President of EAA Chapter 1279 based at French ValleyAirport, gives us a little insight into the traps that can arise when buildinga plane as a chapter, and details the fuel system in the Pietenpol they built.1937 Pietenpol Air Camper NX308MB Gary Boothe shares his story of building thissimple yet elegant version of Bernard Pietenpols Corvair-powered Air Camper,as a tribute to his father.Greg Bacons Turbo Subaru EA-82T Pietenpol Air Camper Oscar Zuniga presents thetale of Mountain Piet, a straightforward incarnation designed to be flown froma field in Colorado with a summertime density altitude approaching 11,000 feet.Chris Ruschs MitsuPIETshi Air Camper Oscar Zuniga highlights some of the many detailsthat make this Air Camper unique, including the Mitsubishi forklift enginethat was overhauled before being adapted to its new chore of powering a classicbird.11th Annual Alternative Engine Round-Up The fine people from EAA Chapter 1279 havestepped up and offered to cohost our annual fly-in. This year;s event willbe held on Saturday, September 27th at the French Valley Airport near TemeculaCalifornia.If youre interested in receiving CONTACT! Magazine, please contact us by phone,e-mail, or just simply drop a check in the mail to us and well enter you intoour database just in time to receive this issue. The link to our subscriptionpage is at the very bottom of this note.Please remember that CONTACT! Magazine is a recognized 501(c)3 non-profit, educationalresource. We publish CONTACT! not as a moneymaking endeavor, but ratheras a labor of love- love for experimental aviation. As previously stated, we just returned from a very successful trip to Brodheadand Oshkosh. We met some great people with some new products and interesting planesthat well be writing about in upcoming issues and I know you wont want tomiss out.Additionally, we finally picked up the full-color version of Alternative EnginesVolume 4 from the printer just before I left for OSH. I had a good supply ofthem at Brodhead and AirVenture and totally sold out by the third day. WhileI was away at the show, my wife Veronica mailed out several hundred to those whowere kind enough to preorder so that we would have the funds to self-publish.Shes still not done so if you preordered and havent received yours yet, hangin there a few more weeks. If you havent ordered yours yet, now is the timeto do it! Weve had the less expensive black and white version in stock for quite a whilenow and the are always available. If youd like to know more about the book, pleasevisit:www.contactmagazine.com/Vol4tableofcontents.htmlHeres an electronic version preview:http://issuu.com/contact.magazine/docs/ ... 4_previeOh! And one last thing...For the past three years weve been very fortunate to have our CONTACT! Magazineannual fly-in hosted by the fine people at the Golden West Fly-in at MarysvilleCalifornia, who rolled out the red carpet for us. But each year the weatherseemed to not want to cooperate. Last year we had a record-shattering heat wave,and the year before that we had 40 mph winds with low temps to match. Eachof these weather-related issues kept people from showing up, so our numbers havebeen slowly declining while they should be rising exponentially. So in thelast issue I made mention of a few places we were considering, one such placebeing French Valley Airport (F70), near Temecula California. Not long after thatI received an email from the French Valley EAA chapter (Pietenpol builders!)offering their full assistance. Long story short, I paid them a visit and theyvoted to help us all they can.So with that, Im pleased to announce that on Saturday September 27, 2014, wellbe hosting our 11th annual Alternative Engine (and Experimental aircraft) Round-Upat French Valley Airport. The event will have a soft start on Friday, Sept26th, as we receive and welcome arrivals. On Saturday well have a day of educationalforums and lots of cool stuff to see on the ramp. Well have a nice catereddinner that evening, and the next day well be there to help those who flewin to get home safely.None of the details are set in stone (except the date and the place) but we planto have easy access from the parking lot to the forums for those who drive in,and plenty of ground support (including transportation to and from motels)for those who fly-in. The uncontrolled field has a beautifully paved 6000 x 75lighted runway, lots of tiedown space, and even a few vacant hangars that canbe rented by the day for those who wish to keep their planes inside overnight.Additionally, theres a very nice restaurant on the field. For more information,please visit our website:http://www.contactmagazine.com/roundup.html (still a work in progress)And if youd like to display your plane, present an educational forum, offer assistanceor even display a product, please let me know as soon as possible. Youcan reach me best by email:(Editor(at)ContactMagazine.com) or by my calling office phone number during normalbusiness hours: 559-584-3306We hope to see you there!Sincerely,Patrick Panzera, EditorEditor(at)ContactMagazine.com If youd like to follow us on Facebook, please visit:www.facebook.com/www.CONTACTMagazineWe update that site nearly daily with news and information relevant to experimentalaviation.and for subscription information please visit:http://www.contactmagazine.com/subscrip.htmlIf youd like just the current, all Pietenpol issue, that can be ordered by followingthe directions at the bottom of this page:http://www.contactmagazine.com/backissu.html Please note that this page hasnt been updated in a little over a year and doesnot include all the most recent issues, including the all-Pietenpol issue. Justbe sure to ask for issue #108 when you order.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 06:12:44 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
[from Contact! editor, Pat Panzera:]Friends,Id like to take a moment to let you know that we are about to deliver our special,85th Pietenpol anniversary issue of CONTACT! Magazine, and to thank all ofyou who were at Brodhead or AirVenture and either bought the single issue orwent the distance and subscribed to CONTACT! And I'd especially like to thank ALL who participated in the making of this issue.If its wasn't for your generosity of information, we wouldn't have this awesomeissue. It was our great pleasure to work with these individuals that helped us createthis special 32 page issue filled with Pietenpol articles: http://tinyurl.com/CM-Issue108Heres the table of contents: Dan Helspers Ford A Powered Pietenpol. Oscar Zuniga introduces us to a specialPietenpol built by Dan Helsper, who did his best to stick to the plans whereverpractical, including the engine.Ol Tattered Wingtips. Pietenpol patriarch Donald Doc Mosher tells of some of theinside tips that help fill in the gaps left in the various Pietenpol plan setscurrently available.Got Gas? Steve Williamson, President of EAA Chapter 1279 based at French ValleyAirport, gives us a little insight into the traps that can arise when buildinga plane as a chapter, and details the fuel system in the Pietenpol they built.1937 Pietenpol Air Camper NX308MB Gary Boothe shares his story of building thissimple yet elegant version of Bernard Pietenpols Corvair-powered Air Camper,as a tribute to his father.Greg Bacons Turbo Subaru EA-82T Pietenpol Air Camper Oscar Zuniga presents thetale of Mountain Piet, a straightforward incarnation designed to be flown froma field in Colorado with a summertime density altitude approaching 11,000 feet.Chris Ruschs MitsuPIETshi Air Camper Oscar Zuniga highlights some of the many detailsthat make this Air Camper unique, including the Mitsubishi forklift enginethat was overhauled before being adapted to its new chore of powering a classicbird.11th Annual Alternative Engine Round-Up The fine people from EAA Chapter 1279 havestepped up and offered to cohost our annual fly-in. This year;s event willbe held on Saturday, September 27th at the French Valley Airport near TemeculaCalifornia.If youre interested in receiving CONTACT! Magazine, please contact us by phone,e-mail, or just simply drop a check in the mail to us and well enter you intoour database just in time to receive this issue. The link to our subscriptionpage is at the very bottom of this note.Please remember that CONTACT! Magazine is a recognized 501(c)3 non-profit, educationalresource. We publish CONTACT! not as a moneymaking endeavor, but ratheras a labor of love- love for experimental aviation. As previously stated, we just returned from a very successful trip to Brodheadand Oshkosh. We met some great people with some new products and interesting planesthat well be writing about in upcoming issues and I know you wont want tomiss out.Additionally, we finally picked up the full-color version of Alternative EnginesVolume 4 from the printer just before I left for OSH. I had a good supply ofthem at Brodhead and AirVenture and totally sold out by the third day. WhileI was away at the show, my wife Veronica mailed out several hundred to those whowere kind enough to preorder so that we would have the funds to self-publish.Shes still not done so if you preordered and havent received yours yet, hangin there a few more weeks. If you havent ordered yours yet, now is the timeto do it! Weve had the less expensive black and white version in stock for quite a whilenow and the are always available. If youd like to know more about the book, pleasevisit:www.contactmagazine.com/Vol4tableofcontents.htmlHeres an electronic version preview:http://issuu.com/contact.magazine/docs/ ... 4_previeOh! And one last thing...For the past three years weve been very fortunate to have our CONTACT! Magazineannual fly-in hosted by the fine people at the Golden West Fly-in at MarysvilleCalifornia, who rolled out the red carpet for us. But each year the weatherseemed to not want to cooperate. Last year we had a record-shattering heat wave,and the year before that we had 40 mph winds with low temps to match. Eachof these weather-related issues kept people from showing up, so our numbers havebeen slowly declining while they should be rising exponentially. So in thelast issue I made mention of a few places we were considering, one such placebeing French Valley Airport (F70), near Temecula California. Not long after thatI received an email from the French Valley EAA chapter (Pietenpol builders!)offering their full assistance. Long story short, I paid them a visit and theyvoted to help us all they can.So with that, Im pleased to announce that on Saturday September 27, 2014, wellbe hosting our 11th annual Alternative Engine (and Experimental aircraft) Round-Upat French Valley Airport. The event will have a soft start on Friday, Sept26th, as we receive and welcome arrivals. On Saturday well have a day of educationalforums and lots of cool stuff to see on the ramp. Well have a nice catereddinner that evening, and the next day well be there to help those who flewin to get home safely.None of the details are set in stone (except the date and the place) but we planto have easy access from the parking lot to the forums for those who drive in,and plenty of ground support (including transportation to and from motels)for those who fly-in. The uncontrolled field has a beautifully paved 6000 x 75lighted runway, lots of tiedown space, and even a few vacant hangars that canbe rented by the day for those who wish to keep their planes inside overnight.Additionally, theres a very nice restaurant on the field. For more information,please visit our website:http://www.contactmagazine.com/roundup.html (still a work in progress)And if youd like to display your plane, present an educational forum, offer assistanceor even display a product, please let me know as soon as possible. Youcan reach me best by email:(Editor(at)ContactMagazine.com) or by my calling office phone number during normalbusiness hours: 559-584-3306We hope to see you there!Sincerely,Patrick Panzera, EditorEditor(at)ContactMagazine.com If youd like to follow us on Facebook, please visit:www.facebook.com/www.CONTACTMagazineWe update that site nearly daily with news and information relevant to experimentalaviation.and for subscription information please visit:http://www.contactmagazine.com/subscrip.htmlIf youd like just the current, all Pietenpol issue, that can be ordered by followingthe directions at the bottom of this page:http://www.contactmagazine.com/backissu.html Please note that this page hasnt been updated in a little over a year and doesnot include all the most recent issues, including the all-Pietenpol issue. Justbe sure to ask for issue #108 when you order.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 06:12:44 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
Original Posted By:> tools
Ted Koudys just across the border from Buffalo in Beamsville Ontario is a veryrespected Model A engine rebuilder with a full shop. I can get you his coordinatesif you'd like. Scott Knowlton Sent from my iPhone> On Aug 18, 2014, at 10:49 PM, "Robert Gow" wrote:> > > there are a couple of performance engine builders in Toronto which is close. I can talk to them> > thanks> > Original Message
Ted Koudys just across the border from Buffalo in Beamsville Ontario is a veryrespected Model A engine rebuilder with a full shop. I can get you his coordinatesif you'd like. Scott Knowlton Sent from my iPhone> On Aug 18, 2014, at 10:49 PM, "Robert Gow" wrote:> > > there are a couple of performance engine builders in Toronto which is close. I can talk to them> > thanks> > Original Message
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine
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Original Posted By: Michael Perez