Original Posted By: michael list
The ribs in this picture (Doug Hunts plane) are quite a bit different from mine. What set of plans are they built from? http://207.140.1.221/w3builder/piet/aci ... g1.jpgThey look a bit heavier with the extra capstrips (vertical).Richard-------------------------------------------------Homepage: http://207.140.1.221/w3builder_________ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: what plans were used in this plane?
Pietenpol-List: Re: what plans were used in this plane?
Original Posted By:> Richard DeCosta
Richard,my ribs where built by another builder,a student in a high schoolareo-class,that was taught by Graham Hansen a long time pietdriver/builder. The bracing is similar to the Grega rib,altough the form isthe same as Bernies. Doug
Richard,my ribs where built by another builder,a student in a high schoolareo-class,that was taught by Graham Hansen a long time pietdriver/builder. The bracing is similar to the Grega rib,altough the form isthe same as Bernies. Doug
Pietenpol-List: Re: what plans were used in this plane?
Original Posted By: ADonJr(at)aol.com
Hi Doug,Those ribs you mentioned were patterned after some ribs that hadbeen built by another party. The fuselage frame that you have, togetherwith a few ribs originally came from a builder north of Edmonton inthe Morinville area. He sold these parts to a friend of mine who nevergot around to doing any more with the project. When he moved toBritish Columbia about 14 years ago, he gave the pieces to me andI, in turn, gave them to my student, Doug Blades. Doug and some of hisfellow classmates built more ribs using the completed ones as apattern. My rib jig and another would not accept them; in fact the ribson a homebuilt will likely not match those on another a/c unless the samejig was used. The most important thing is to have all the ribson a given a/c identical. It doesn't seem to matter a lot if they differslightly from the plan or from those on another airplane of the samedesign. But sometimes one can stumble onto something that improvesa design:I once read a letter in the old EAA Experimenter (ca. 1956) in whichthe writer said a friend had made a mistake in laying out his rib jig,only to discover it after all the ribs had been made. The upper surfacecurve from the leading edge to the front spar was more rounded, withthe ordinates about 3/16 inch greater than those on the plan at themid point. He left them this way and his Pietenpol flew better than anyother that he knew of.When I built mine, I was aware of this letter---but was too "chicken"to deviate from the plans. In retrospect, I wish that I had because myson has a Piet that was built in Calgary in 1967 and its ribs are a bitmore rounded on the front upper surface than the plans indicate. Thisparticular a/c is a really good performer with an A65. It climbs betterwith this power than any I have flown, including my own Piet.Your ribs, as I recall, may have some of this feature. If so, I believe itwill be beneficial. How is your project coming along these days?Cheers,Graham________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Doug,Those ribs you mentioned were patterned after some ribs that hadbeen built by another party. The fuselage frame that you have, togetherwith a few ribs originally came from a builder north of Edmonton inthe Morinville area. He sold these parts to a friend of mine who nevergot around to doing any more with the project. When he moved toBritish Columbia about 14 years ago, he gave the pieces to me andI, in turn, gave them to my student, Doug Blades. Doug and some of hisfellow classmates built more ribs using the completed ones as apattern. My rib jig and another would not accept them; in fact the ribson a homebuilt will likely not match those on another a/c unless the samejig was used. The most important thing is to have all the ribson a given a/c identical. It doesn't seem to matter a lot if they differslightly from the plan or from those on another airplane of the samedesign. But sometimes one can stumble onto something that improvesa design:I once read a letter in the old EAA Experimenter (ca. 1956) in whichthe writer said a friend had made a mistake in laying out his rib jig,only to discover it after all the ribs had been made. The upper surfacecurve from the leading edge to the front spar was more rounded, withthe ordinates about 3/16 inch greater than those on the plan at themid point. He left them this way and his Pietenpol flew better than anyother that he knew of.When I built mine, I was aware of this letter---but was too "chicken"to deviate from the plans. In retrospect, I wish that I had because myson has a Piet that was built in Calgary in 1967 and its ribs are a bitmore rounded on the front upper surface than the plans indicate. Thisparticular a/c is a really good performer with an A65. It climbs betterwith this power than any I have flown, including my own Piet.Your ribs, as I recall, may have some of this feature. If so, I believe itwill be beneficial. How is your project coming along these days?Cheers,Graham________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: what plans were used in this plane?
Original Posted By:> Graham Hansen
Hi Graham, thanks for the response,yes i did add approx 1/4 inch to the ribs as youdescribed. I have all the control surfaces covered now,will start on a wingnext.I'am using ceconite and the Airtech system.from Kiteair at ElkIslanndairpark. I took the stits course last October at NAIT. Did you find a new home to park your birds yet? Talk to you later.. Doug
Hi Graham, thanks for the response,yes i did add approx 1/4 inch to the ribs as youdescribed. I have all the control surfaces covered now,will start on a wingnext.I'am using ceconite and the Airtech system.from Kiteair at ElkIslanndairpark. I took the stits course last October at NAIT. Did you find a new home to park your birds yet? Talk to you later.. Doug
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Original Posted By: lizard(at)pop.primenet.com
Doug:Glad to hear you are coming right along with your Piet. Would like to see itsomeday---perhaps this fall. Could you provide your addressand phone number again? Somehow it got lost in the move to Cam-rose. I wouldgive you a call prior to coming down to see if a visitwould be convenient.Went flying in my Piet yesterday. Gorgeous day ---about 85 degreesF. Not many days around here when one can fly a Piet in shirt sleeves,but yesterday was one of them. I moved my hangar to a friend's placejust north of New Sarepta and the Piet is now based there. Do you have anairstrip nearby---in case I take a notion to fly over to see you?Keep in touch.Graham________________________________________________________________________________
Doug:Glad to hear you are coming right along with your Piet. Would like to see itsomeday---perhaps this fall. Could you provide your addressand phone number again? Somehow it got lost in the move to Cam-rose. I wouldgive you a call prior to coming down to see if a visitwould be convenient.Went flying in my Piet yesterday. Gorgeous day ---about 85 degreesF. Not many days around here when one can fly a Piet in shirt sleeves,but yesterday was one of them. I moved my hangar to a friend's placejust north of New Sarepta and the Piet is now based there. Do you have anairstrip nearby---in case I take a notion to fly over to see you?Keep in touch.Graham________________________________________________________________________________
> what plans were used in this plane?
Original Posted By: Paris Wilcox
> > The ribs in this picture (Doug Hunts plane) are quite a bit different > from mine. What set of plans are they built from?> > http://207.140.1.221/w3builder/piet/aci ... -Wing1.jpg> > They look a bit heavier with the extra capstrips (vertical).> > Richard> -------------------------------------------------> Homepage: http://207.140.1.221/w3builder_________ ... __________
> > The ribs in this picture (Doug Hunts plane) are quite a bit different > from mine. What set of plans are they built from?> > http://207.140.1.221/w3builder/piet/aci ... -Wing1.jpg> > They look a bit heavier with the extra capstrips (vertical).> > Richard> -------------------------------------------------> Homepage: http://207.140.1.221/w3builder_________ ... __________
> Re: what plans were used in this plane?
Original Posted By: PTNPOL(at)aol.com
> > Hi Doug,> > Those ribs you mentioned were patterned after some ribs that had> been built by another party. The fuselage frame that you have, together> with a few ribs originally came from a builder north of Edmonton in> the Morinville area. He sold these parts to a friend of mine who never> got around to doing any more with the project. When he moved to> British Columbia about 14 years ago, he gave the pieces to me and> I, in turn, gave them to my student, Doug Blades. Doug and some of his> fellow classmates built more ribs using the completed ones as a> pattern. My rib jig and another would not accept them; in fact the ribs> on a homebuilt will likely not match those on another a/c unless the same> jig was used. The most important thing is to have all the ribs> on a given a/c identical. It doesn't seem to matter a lot if they differ> slightly from the plan or from those on another airplane of the same> design. But sometimes one can stumble onto something that improves> a design:> > I once read a letter in the old EAA Experimenter (ca. 1956) in which> the writer said a friend had made a mistake in laying out his rib jig,> only to discover it after all the ribs had been made. The upper surface> curve from the leading edge to the front spar was more rounded, with> the ordinates about 3/16 inch greater than those on the plan at the> mid point. He left them this way and his Pietenpol flew better than any> other that he knew of.> > When I built mine, I was aware of this letter---but was too "chicken"> to deviate from the plans. In retrospect, I wish that I had because my> son has a Piet that was built in Calgary in 1967 and its ribs are a bit> more rounded on the front upper surface than the plans indicate. This> particular a/c is a really good performer with an A65. It climbs better> with this power than any I have flown, including my own Piet.> > Your ribs, as I recall, may have some of this feature. If so, I believeit> will be beneficial. How is your project coming along these days?> > Cheers,> > Graham________________________________________________________________________________
> > Hi Doug,> > Those ribs you mentioned were patterned after some ribs that had> been built by another party. The fuselage frame that you have, together> with a few ribs originally came from a builder north of Edmonton in> the Morinville area. He sold these parts to a friend of mine who never> got around to doing any more with the project. When he moved to> British Columbia about 14 years ago, he gave the pieces to me and> I, in turn, gave them to my student, Doug Blades. Doug and some of his> fellow classmates built more ribs using the completed ones as a> pattern. My rib jig and another would not accept them; in fact the ribs> on a homebuilt will likely not match those on another a/c unless the same> jig was used. The most important thing is to have all the ribs> on a given a/c identical. It doesn't seem to matter a lot if they differ> slightly from the plan or from those on another airplane of the same> design. But sometimes one can stumble onto something that improves> a design:> > I once read a letter in the old EAA Experimenter (ca. 1956) in which> the writer said a friend had made a mistake in laying out his rib jig,> only to discover it after all the ribs had been made. The upper surface> curve from the leading edge to the front spar was more rounded, with> the ordinates about 3/16 inch greater than those on the plan at the> mid point. He left them this way and his Pietenpol flew better than any> other that he knew of.> > When I built mine, I was aware of this letter---but was too "chicken"> to deviate from the plans. In retrospect, I wish that I had because my> son has a Piet that was built in Calgary in 1967 and its ribs are a bit> more rounded on the front upper surface than the plans indicate. This> particular a/c is a really good performer with an A65. It climbs better> with this power than any I have flown, including my own Piet.> > Your ribs, as I recall, may have some of this feature. If so, I believeit> will be beneficial. How is your project coming along these days?> > Cheers,> > Graham________________________________________________________________________________