Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
I'm getting ready to weld the spoke flanges, to the wheel shaft on my spoke wheels, and would like some advice if somebody has any.I need to know how you guys located the flanges (spoke disk) at a 90 degree angle to the wheel shaft, so that when these pieces are welded they run true.Also, I dont have tig at home, just gas. Can these wheels be welded up using a gas welder?ocb________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
>I'm getting ready to weld the spoke flanges, to the wheel shaft on my >spoke wheels, and would like some advice if somebody has any.>>I need to know how you guys located the flanges (spoke disk) at a 90 >degree angle to the wheel shaft, so that when these pieces are welded >they run true.>>Also, I dont have tig at home, just gas. Can these wheels be welded up >using a gas welder?Bob- Either method of welding will be fine. Before I welded my flanges tothe hub I drilled and countersunk the spoke holes. You can do this afterwelding though too. Another item is to weld each flange opposite the otherwith one spoke hole aligned between the other sides spoke holes. In otherwords offset the two flanges by splitting the difference between holes.This will help you lace the spoke easier. Looks better too. Mike C. >>ocb>________________________________________________________________________________
>I'm getting ready to weld the spoke flanges, to the wheel shaft on my >spoke wheels, and would like some advice if somebody has any.>>I need to know how you guys located the flanges (spoke disk) at a 90 >degree angle to the wheel shaft, so that when these pieces are welded >they run true.>>Also, I dont have tig at home, just gas. Can these wheels be welded up >using a gas welder?Bob- Either method of welding will be fine. Before I welded my flanges tothe hub I drilled and countersunk the spoke holes. You can do this afterwelding though too. Another item is to weld each flange opposite the otherwith one spoke hole aligned between the other sides spoke holes. In otherwords offset the two flanges by splitting the difference between holes.This will help you lace the spoke easier. Looks better too. Mike C. >>ocb>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: oil can
I have drilled pilot holes in the flanges...36 holes for easier to find US style rims, but I don't know what size the holes should be for the spokes, also what size should be the countersinks? Lastly what size were the spokes you used, and did you roll the threads ?>From steve(at)byu.edu Fri Feb 5 05:25:50 1999>Received: from adena.byu.edu ("port 1275"@adena.byu.edu [128.187.22.180])> by EMAIL1.BYU.EDU (PMDF V5.2-30 #31181)> with ESMTP id for oilcanbob(at)hotmail.com;>Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:23:40 -0500>From: Michael D Cuy >Subject: Re: spoke wheels>Sender: Maiser(at)adena.byu.edu>To: Pietenpol Discussion >Errors-to: Steve(at)byu.edu>Reply-to: Pietenpol Discussion >Message-id: >MIME-version: 1.0>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 (via Mercury MTS v1.44 (NDS))> (via Mercury MTS v1.44 (NDS))>Comments: Originally To: "Pietenpol Discussion" >X-Listname: >>>I'm getting ready to weld the spoke flanges, to the wheel shaft on my >>spoke wheels, and would like some advice if somebody has any.>>>>I need to know how you guys located the flanges (spoke disk) at a 90 >>degree angle to the wheel shaft, so that when these pieces are welded >>they run true.>>>>Also, I dont have tig at home, just gas. Can these wheels be welded up >>using a gas welder?>>Bob- Either method of welding will be fine. Before I welded my flanges to>the hub I drilled and countersunk the spoke holes. You can do this after>welding though too. Another item is to weld each flange opposite the other>with one spoke hole aligned between the other sides spoke holes. In other>words offset the two flanges by splitting the difference between holes.>This will help you lace the spoke easier. Looks better too. >>Mike C. >>>>>>ocb>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
I have drilled pilot holes in the flanges...36 holes for easier to find US style rims, but I don't know what size the holes should be for the spokes, also what size should be the countersinks? Lastly what size were the spokes you used, and did you roll the threads ?>From steve(at)byu.edu Fri Feb 5 05:25:50 1999>Received: from adena.byu.edu ("port 1275"@adena.byu.edu [128.187.22.180])> by EMAIL1.BYU.EDU (PMDF V5.2-30 #31181)> with ESMTP id for oilcanbob(at)hotmail.com;>Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:23:40 -0500>From: Michael D Cuy >Subject: Re: spoke wheels>Sender: Maiser(at)adena.byu.edu>To: Pietenpol Discussion >Errors-to: Steve(at)byu.edu>Reply-to: Pietenpol Discussion >Message-id: >MIME-version: 1.0>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 (via Mercury MTS v1.44 (NDS))> (via Mercury MTS v1.44 (NDS))>Comments: Originally To: "Pietenpol Discussion" >X-Listname: >>>I'm getting ready to weld the spoke flanges, to the wheel shaft on my >>spoke wheels, and would like some advice if somebody has any.>>>>I need to know how you guys located the flanges (spoke disk) at a 90 >>degree angle to the wheel shaft, so that when these pieces are welded >>they run true.>>>>Also, I dont have tig at home, just gas. Can these wheels be welded up >>using a gas welder?>>Bob- Either method of welding will be fine. Before I welded my flanges to>the hub I drilled and countersunk the spoke holes. You can do this after>welding though too. Another item is to weld each flange opposite the other>with one spoke hole aligned between the other sides spoke holes. In other>words offset the two flanges by splitting the difference between holes.>This will help you lace the spoke easier. Looks better too. >>Mike C. >>>>>>ocb>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: Glenn Burroughs
> I have drilled pilot holes in the flanges...36 holes for easier to find >US style rims, but I don't know what size the holes should be for the >spokes, also what size should be the countersinks? >Bob- the hole size depends on the gauge size of your spokes. Don'tquote me on this but I believe my spokes were 8 or 9 gauge and it tooka 5/32" drill to accept them. Counter sinking was done one at a timeby using a standard countersink bit and going deep enough to allow theconical portion/ tapered to seat some in the flange. You don't have tocountersink but I did it for more surface area to contact the spoke end.>Lastly what size were the spokes you used, and did you roll the threads >?Rolled threads are the standard for bikes and airplanes. You can use cutthreads but run the risk of eventual fatiuge failures. Buchannen's Frame Shopin CA makes custom spokes for any application if you give them enough info.They may be on the net. Mike C. I have drilled pilot holes in the flanges...36 holes for easier tofind US style rims, but I don't know what size the holes should be for thespokes, also what size should be the countersinks? Bob- the hole size depends on the gauge size of your spokes.Don'tquote me on this but I believe my spokes were 8 or 9 gauge and ittooka 5/32 drill to accept them. Counter sinking was done one ata timeby using a standard countersink bit and going deep enough to allowtheconical portion/ tapered to seat some in the flange. You don't havetocountersink but I did it for more surface area to contact the spokeend.Lastly what size were the spokes you used, and did you roll thethreads ?Rolled threads are the standard for bikes and airplanes. You canuse cutthreads but run the risk of eventual fatiuge failures. Buchannen'sFrame Shopin CA makes custom spokes for any application if you give them enoughinfo.They may be on the net. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
> I have drilled pilot holes in the flanges...36 holes for easier to find >US style rims, but I don't know what size the holes should be for the >spokes, also what size should be the countersinks? >Bob- the hole size depends on the gauge size of your spokes. Don'tquote me on this but I believe my spokes were 8 or 9 gauge and it tooka 5/32" drill to accept them. Counter sinking was done one at a timeby using a standard countersink bit and going deep enough to allow theconical portion/ tapered to seat some in the flange. You don't have tocountersink but I did it for more surface area to contact the spoke end.>Lastly what size were the spokes you used, and did you roll the threads >?Rolled threads are the standard for bikes and airplanes. You can use cutthreads but run the risk of eventual fatiuge failures. Buchannen's Frame Shopin CA makes custom spokes for any application if you give them enough info.They may be on the net. Mike C. I have drilled pilot holes in the flanges...36 holes for easier tofind US style rims, but I don't know what size the holes should be for thespokes, also what size should be the countersinks? Bob- the hole size depends on the gauge size of your spokes.Don'tquote me on this but I believe my spokes were 8 or 9 gauge and ittooka 5/32 drill to accept them. Counter sinking was done one ata timeby using a standard countersink bit and going deep enough to allowtheconical portion/ tapered to seat some in the flange. You don't havetocountersink but I did it for more surface area to contact the spokeend.Lastly what size were the spokes you used, and did you roll thethreads ?Rolled threads are the standard for bikes and airplanes. You canuse cutthreads but run the risk of eventual fatiuge failures. Buchannen'sFrame Shopin CA makes custom spokes for any application if you give them enoughinfo.They may be on the net. Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: John Duprey
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have>decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a>6 in wheel hub.>>A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub>with a 16 in wheel rim.>>I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math>seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim>.>>ocb>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have>decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a>6 in wheel hub.>>A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub>with a 16 in wheel rim.>>I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math>seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim>.>>ocb>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: dannymac
I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a 6 in wheel hub.A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub with a 16 in wheel rim.I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim .ocb________________________________________________________________________________
I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a 6 in wheel hub.A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub with a 16 in wheel rim.I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim .ocb________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: Ron Gipson
Oilcan, If you are refering to side loads on the 4.5" hub. I figure appx.5.25" long spokes with near a 48 degree angle between opposings spokesvertically. This would be greater than most of the wheels mentioned onthis site. I would say that would be more than adequate.Dannymacoil can wrote:> > I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have> decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a> 6 in wheel hub.> > A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub> with a 16 in wheel rim.> > I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math> seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim> .> > ocb> ________________________________________________________________________________
Oilcan, If you are refering to side loads on the 4.5" hub. I figure appx.5.25" long spokes with near a 48 degree angle between opposings spokesvertically. This would be greater than most of the wheels mentioned onthis site. I would say that would be more than adequate.Dannymacoil can wrote:> > I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have> decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a> 6 in wheel hub.> > A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub> with a 16 in wheel rim.> > I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math> seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim> .> > ocb> ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: Brent Reed
It will depend a great deal on the strength of your spokes. Buchanan's put9 gauge stainless on mine and told me that each spoke could pull 1000 poundsand that the aluminum hub or the steel rim would probably fail at the nipplebefore the spoke broke. While this is linear, rather than side load, they alsotold me that there are at least 11 spokes in tension and compression at allrolling motion. The summary was that if I hit hard enough to break the wheel,that would probably be the least of my concerns....{;~)Warrenoil can wrote:> I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have> decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a> 6 in wheel hub.>> A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub> with a 16 in wheel rim.>> I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math> seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim> .>> ocb>________________________________________________________________________________
It will depend a great deal on the strength of your spokes. Buchanan's put9 gauge stainless on mine and told me that each spoke could pull 1000 poundsand that the aluminum hub or the steel rim would probably fail at the nipplebefore the spoke broke. While this is linear, rather than side load, they alsotold me that there are at least 11 spokes in tension and compression at allrolling motion. The summary was that if I hit hard enough to break the wheel,that would probably be the least of my concerns....{;~)Warrenoil can wrote:> I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have> decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a> 6 in wheel hub.>> A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub> with a 16 in wheel rim.>> I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math> seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim> .>> ocb>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Howard Wilkinson
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have>decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a>6 in wheel hub.>>A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub>with a 16 in wheel rim.>>I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math>seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim>.>>ocb>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I am in the process of setting up for spoke wheels...again ! And have>decided to use 16 in rims. I notice that the piet's use a 21 inch rim and a>6 in wheel hub.>>A quick ratio & proportion problem told me that I could use a 4.5 in hub>with a 16 in wheel rim.>>I am a little worried about strenght whith this 4.5 in hub. Does my math>seem reasonable ? Assuming that I use a 16 in rim, rather that a 21 in rim>.>>ocb>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: oil can
OCB; Others that I have known that have smaller diameter wheels with the stockgear length have had landing problems. The angle of the plane on the gear isnot great enough to get it to stall properly on the flare on three points.You may have to land on the tail wheel and plop it down when the wing isdone flying. Mike Cuy kinda had this as his gear is shorter but with the 19"wheels. He did some bunny hops on each landing until he got used to thenarrow envelope of landing "angle of attack". Keep an eye out forthis...........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
OCB; Others that I have known that have smaller diameter wheels with the stockgear length have had landing problems. The angle of the plane on the gear isnot great enough to get it to stall properly on the flare on three points.You may have to land on the tail wheel and plop it down when the wing isdone flying. Mike Cuy kinda had this as his gear is shorter but with the 19"wheels. He did some bunny hops on each landing until he got used to thenarrow envelope of landing "angle of attack". Keep an eye out forthis...........Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: oil can
ocb,I know you'll see homemade wheels in both 18 and 21" styles. Sky Gypsy forexample has 18" wheels. I do not know about 16" ones. Maybe you mightconsider 18" wheels. The proportion looks nice.John-----Original Message-----
ocb,I know you'll see homemade wheels in both 18 and 21" styles. Sky Gypsy forexample has 18" wheels. I do not know about 16" ones. Maybe you mightconsider 18" wheels. The proportion looks nice.John-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Al & Jodie Murray
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I have at last finished my spoke wheel hubs, ,,a little different than the>piet type, as mine are for 1.250 in. axles, and 36 holes for spokes.>>.125 Flanges are drilled stright thru for .160 +.003-.000 and as yet not>countersunk.>>I would like to cross the spokes twice for strength. I'm wondering if any>other fellows crossed their spokes, and did they angle the countersinkhole>in the hubs to fit the hub to spoke to rim angle ? Or did you just bore>stright thru ?>>I have written buchanan's twice now by e-mail....no answer !>>Also is crossing the spokes necessary ? I'm told that an un crossed hub isa>very weak set up...>>I also notice from some buchanan's litature Earl gave to me, that they sell>a ball end spoke, did you fellows use the ball end type rather than angle>the hole ?>>Bob>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I have at last finished my spoke wheel hubs, ,,a little different than the>piet type, as mine are for 1.250 in. axles, and 36 holes for spokes.>>.125 Flanges are drilled stright thru for .160 +.003-.000 and as yet not>countersunk.>>I would like to cross the spokes twice for strength. I'm wondering if any>other fellows crossed their spokes, and did they angle the countersinkhole>in the hubs to fit the hub to spoke to rim angle ? Or did you just bore>stright thru ?>>I have written buchanan's twice now by e-mail....no answer !>>Also is crossing the spokes necessary ? I'm told that an un crossed hub isa>very weak set up...>>I also notice from some buchanan's litature Earl gave to me, that they sell>a ball end spoke, did you fellows use the ball end type rather than angle>the hole ?>>Bob>>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: walter evans
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I have at last finished my spoke wheel hubs, ,,a little different than the>piet type, as mine are for 1.250 in. axles, and 36 holes for spokes.>>.125 Flanges are drilled stright thru for .160 +.003-.000 and as yet not>countersunk.>>I would like to cross the spokes twice for strength. I'm wondering if any>other fellows crossed their spokes, and did they angle the countersinkhole>in the hubs to fit the hub to spoke to rim angle ? Or did you just bore>stright thru ?>>I have written buchanan's twice now by e-mail....no answer !>>Also is crossing the spokes necessary ? I'm told that an un crossed hub isa>very weak set up...>>I also notice from some buchanan's litature Earl gave to me, that they sell>a ball end spoke, did you fellows use the ball end type rather than angle>the hole ?>>Bob>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels>I have at last finished my spoke wheel hubs, ,,a little different than the>piet type, as mine are for 1.250 in. axles, and 36 holes for spokes.>>.125 Flanges are drilled stright thru for .160 +.003-.000 and as yet not>countersunk.>>I would like to cross the spokes twice for strength. I'm wondering if any>other fellows crossed their spokes, and did they angle the countersinkhole>in the hubs to fit the hub to spoke to rim angle ? Or did you just bore>stright thru ?>>I have written buchanan's twice now by e-mail....no answer !>>Also is crossing the spokes necessary ? I'm told that an un crossed hub isa>very weak set up...>>I also notice from some buchanan's litature Earl gave to me, that they sell>a ball end spoke, did you fellows use the ball end type rather than angle>the hole ?>>Bob>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: TJTREV(at)webtv.net (Theodore Trevorrow)
I have at last finished my spoke wheel hubs, ,,a little different than the piet type, as mine are for 1.250 in. axles, and 36 holes for spokes..125 Flanges are drilled stright thru for .160 +.003-.000 and as yet not countersunk.I would like to cross the spokes twice for strength. I'm wondering if any other fellows crossed their spokes, and did they angle the countersink hole in the hubs to fit the hub to spoke to rim angle ? Or did you just bore stright thru ?I have written buchanan's twice now by e-mail....no answer !Also is crossing the spokes necessary ? I'm told that an un crossed hub is a very weak set up...I also notice from some buchanan's litature Earl gave to me, that they sell a ball end spoke, did you fellows use the ball end type rather than angle the hole ?Bob________________________________________________________________________________
I have at last finished my spoke wheel hubs, ,,a little different than the piet type, as mine are for 1.250 in. axles, and 36 holes for spokes..125 Flanges are drilled stright thru for .160 +.003-.000 and as yet not countersunk.I would like to cross the spokes twice for strength. I'm wondering if any other fellows crossed their spokes, and did they angle the countersink hole in the hubs to fit the hub to spoke to rim angle ? Or did you just bore stright thru ?I have written buchanan's twice now by e-mail....no answer !Also is crossing the spokes necessary ? I'm told that an un crossed hub is a very weak set up...I also notice from some buchanan's litature Earl gave to me, that they sell a ball end spoke, did you fellows use the ball end type rather than angle the hole ?Bob________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
If you have ever seen a pic of Howard Henderson's 444 HH , I thinkit's still posted at the BPA web site. You'll notice that the spokes areuncrossed.I've been told that this is strong enough if your not usingbrakes. But braking forces require crossed spokes. Ted.T________________________________________________________________________________
If you have ever seen a pic of Howard Henderson's 444 HH , I thinkit's still posted at the BPA web site. You'll notice that the spokes areuncrossed.I've been told that this is strong enough if your not usingbrakes. But braking forces require crossed spokes. Ted.T________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
A couple pics of that plane here too: http://www.aircamper.org/acimg/444mh.jp ... Richard--- Theodore Trevorrow wrote:> If you have ever seen a pic of Howard Henderson's 444 HH , I think> it's still posted at the BPA web site. You'll notice that the spokes> are> uncrossed.I've been told that this is strong enough if your not using> brakes. But braking forces require crossed spokes. > > Ted.T> > ===http://www.AirCamper.org/______________ ... __________
A couple pics of that plane here too: http://www.aircamper.org/acimg/444mh.jp ... Richard--- Theodore Trevorrow wrote:> If you have ever seen a pic of Howard Henderson's 444 HH , I think> it's still posted at the BPA web site. You'll notice that the spokes> are> uncrossed.I've been told that this is strong enough if your not using> brakes. But braking forces require crossed spokes. > > Ted.T> > ===http://www.AirCamper.org/______________ ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: oil can
Bob; I know this will stir the dust up but I was told awhile back that thecrossed spokes on cycles were to absorb the wild braking they sometimes geton the race track and the street too. Think about it, the brakes we use onour crates will barely hold the plane for a runup and if you had strongerbrakes, you would wind up on your nose! 9ga. spokes are quite heavy and areoverkill unless you are talking about something the size of a Standard orJenny meaning weight. The current construction of wheels we use areextremely strong and the plane or especially landing gear will difficklearound the wire wheels......... All the holes in the flanges that I have seen have been perp, not angled.How did you come up with them being angled? Bucnanan's will talk to you only if you are buying something from them.That is an IMPRESSION I got from working with them previously.........Bob, this angle thing bothers me a bit....talk to me about that, OK? Offline e-mail would be better so we don't clog the channel here.Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Bob; I know this will stir the dust up but I was told awhile back that thecrossed spokes on cycles were to absorb the wild braking they sometimes geton the race track and the street too. Think about it, the brakes we use onour crates will barely hold the plane for a runup and if you had strongerbrakes, you would wind up on your nose! 9ga. spokes are quite heavy and areoverkill unless you are talking about something the size of a Standard orJenny meaning weight. The current construction of wheels we use areextremely strong and the plane or especially landing gear will difficklearound the wire wheels......... All the holes in the flanges that I have seen have been perp, not angled.How did you come up with them being angled? Bucnanan's will talk to you only if you are buying something from them.That is an IMPRESSION I got from working with them previously.........Bob, this angle thing bothers me a bit....talk to me about that, OK? Offline e-mail would be better so we don't clog the channel here.Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Fw: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: oil can
I'm told that streight spokes were used in the early days without brakes. Imade my hubs from 4130 tubing and plate. Then fit ( right out of thepakage) Harley spokes, with a rim for an 18" tire ( 21" o.d.) to matchPietenpol original prints. I'm still working on fitting brakes, but thecomplete wheel less brakes and rubber is 8lbs. eachpics on http://www.aircamper.org/users/wevans/w ... wheel3.jpg white hub is just temporary PVC pipe bushing inserted to true wheel on theaxle.walt-----Original Message-----
I'm told that streight spokes were used in the early days without brakes. Imade my hubs from 4130 tubing and plate. Then fit ( right out of thepakage) Harley spokes, with a rim for an 18" tire ( 21" o.d.) to matchPietenpol original prints. I'm still working on fitting brakes, but thecomplete wheel less brakes and rubber is 8lbs. eachpics on http://www.aircamper.org/users/wevans/w ... wheel3.jpg white hub is just temporary PVC pipe bushing inserted to true wheel on theaxle.walt-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: "David C. Matthews"
Dear Oil Can Bob.......I was told that crossed spokes are to beused with brakes, straight for no brakes and the old fashioned look.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Dear Oil Can Bob.......I was told that crossed spokes are to beused with brakes, straight for no brakes and the old fashioned look.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
I have..... tentatively...found some folks at a local cycle shop to cut spokes to fit my home made rims.NO DAMMED THANKS TO BUCHANAN SWPOKE AND RIM ! Who have again refused to answer all letters and e-mails !I was at all times polite to them.At any rate,These cycle shop guys want to make my wheels big brauney, and bullet proof.I want to keep them light.Question for you guys who have built spoke wheels: What diameter spokes did you use ?ThanksBob________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 18:28:36 -0700
I have..... tentatively...found some folks at a local cycle shop to cut spokes to fit my home made rims.NO DAMMED THANKS TO BUCHANAN SWPOKE AND RIM ! Who have again refused to answer all letters and e-mails !I was at all times polite to them.At any rate,These cycle shop guys want to make my wheels big brauney, and bullet proof.I want to keep them light.Question for you guys who have built spoke wheels: What diameter spokes did you use ?ThanksBob________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 18:28:36 -0700
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Pietenpol-List: spoke wheels
Original Posted By: gcardinal(at)comcast.net
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheelsI got mine from Airdrome Airplanes. Rims are 3 5/8" wide, 7" wide at axle made ready for brakes, rims are 20" across. awaiting on tires and tubes that are to be drop shipped. The ID of the axle bushing is 1 1/4".I am pleased with the quality.**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/ ... 0000000017 )________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheelsI got mine from Airdrome Airplanes. Rims are 3 5/8" wide, 7" wide at axle made ready for brakes, rims are 20" across. awaiting on tires and tubes that are to be drop shipped. The ID of the axle bushing is 1 1/4".I am pleased with the quality.**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/ ... 0000000017 )________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: rim width
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
On NX18235 we used 19" DID rims with a width of 1.85 inches.Greg-------------- Original message --------------
On NX18235 we used 19" DID rims with a width of 1.85 inches.Greg-------------- Original message --------------