Original Posted By: John Fay
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fuel gauge>I'd like to get ideas from the list about the wire "sight guage". My GN-1>doesn't have one. The fuel tank in behind the engine, and the fuel cap has>the tube in it so that I can use the wire guage. A friend suggested>aluminum rod and some sort of styrofoam floater, however I'm wondering is>this (the rod) might be to light, and wind pressure will not allow the>float fall while flying. Don't know about using foam either, seems like it>would get eaten up. Someone else mentioned something about thermos bottle>cork, and coating it with epoxy, and using a stainless steel rod.>>Any ideas?>Robert Hensarling GN-1 N83887>http://www.mesquite-furniture.com>rhrocker(at)admin.hilconet.com>Uvalde, Texas>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: fuel gauge
Pietenpol-List: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fuel gauge>I'd like to get ideas from the list about the wire "sight guage". My GN-1>doesn't have one. The fuel tank in behind the engine, and the fuel cap has>the tube in it so that I can use the wire guage. A friend suggested>aluminum rod and some sort of styrofoam floater, however I'm wondering is>this (the rod) might be to light, and wind pressure will not allow the>float fall while flying. Don't know about using foam either, seems like it>would get eaten up. Someone else mentioned something about thermos bottle>cork, and coating it with epoxy, and using a stainless steel rod.>>Any ideas?>Robert Hensarling GN-1 N83887>http://www.mesquite-furniture.com>rhrocker(at)admin.hilconet.com>Uvalde, Texas>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fuel gauge>I'd like to get ideas from the list about the wire "sight guage". My GN-1>doesn't have one. The fuel tank in behind the engine, and the fuel cap has>the tube in it so that I can use the wire guage. A friend suggested>aluminum rod and some sort of styrofoam floater, however I'm wondering is>this (the rod) might be to light, and wind pressure will not allow the>float fall while flying. Don't know about using foam either, seems like it>would get eaten up. Someone else mentioned something about thermos bottle>cork, and coating it with epoxy, and using a stainless steel rod.>>Any ideas?>Robert Hensarling GN-1 N83887>http://www.mesquite-furniture.com>rhrocker(at)admin.hilconet.com>Uvalde, Texas>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: jmcnarry(at)techplus.com (John McNarry)
I'd like to get ideas from the list about the wire "sight guage". My GN-1doesn't have one. The fuel tank in behind the engine, and the fuel cap hasthe tube in it so that I can use the wire guage. A friend suggestedaluminum rod and some sort of styrofoam floater, however I'm wondering isthis (the rod) might be to light, and wind pressure will not allow thefloat fall while flying. Don't know about using foam either, seems like itwould get eaten up. Someone else mentioned something about thermos bottlecork, and coating it with epoxy, and using a stainless steel rod.Any ideas?Robert Hensarling GN-1 N83887http://www.mesquite-furniture.comrhrocker(at)admin.hilconet.comUvalde, Texas________________________________________________________________________________
I'd like to get ideas from the list about the wire "sight guage". My GN-1doesn't have one. The fuel tank in behind the engine, and the fuel cap hasthe tube in it so that I can use the wire guage. A friend suggestedaluminum rod and some sort of styrofoam floater, however I'm wondering isthis (the rod) might be to light, and wind pressure will not allow thefloat fall while flying. Don't know about using foam either, seems like itwould get eaten up. Someone else mentioned something about thermos bottlecork, and coating it with epoxy, and using a stainless steel rod.Any ideas?Robert Hensarling GN-1 N83887http://www.mesquite-furniture.comrhrocker(at)admin.hilconet.comUvalde, Texas________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: robert hensarling
Robert If you look at fuel sending units from automotive tanks, (early halftons with in cab tanks are easy to get at) you will find some that use brassfloats made like little barrels. The wire float arm is usualy about a footlong and straight. It adapts easily to a vertical indicator. You will stillneed to have the vent tube.John Mc-----Original Message-----
Robert If you look at fuel sending units from automotive tanks, (early halftons with in cab tanks are easy to get at) you will find some that use brassfloats made like little barrels. The wire float arm is usualy about a footlong and straight. It adapts easily to a vertical indicator. You will stillneed to have the vent tube.John Mc-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: robert hensarling
Robert; This is the same as Piper Cubs use, Ercoups and a host of others as well. Ineed this for my Scout too but haven't had luck in finding one yet. Corkwith a stainless rod or plain steel would work fine. How it would work withautogas/alcohol.......? The gas sloshing in the tank negates any wind effectof pushing the wire tight and the tube it slides in is also the venttube..........Earl-----Original Message-----
Robert; This is the same as Piper Cubs use, Ercoups and a host of others as well. Ineed this for my Scout too but haven't had luck in finding one yet. Corkwith a stainless rod or plain steel would work fine. How it would work withautogas/alcohol.......? The gas sloshing in the tank negates any wind effectof pushing the wire tight and the tube it slides in is also the venttube..........Earl-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: jmcnarry(at)techplus.com (John McNarry)
I just ran across this we page. It describes the contsruction of a fuel tank complete with floating gauge.www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/ ... nk.htmHope it helpsDean Dayton - deandayton(at)hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
I just ran across this we page. It describes the contsruction of a fuel tank complete with floating gauge.www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/ ... nk.htmHope it helpsDean Dayton - deandayton(at)hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Robert,When I built my Fisher 404 I wanted a fuel guage like a cub. Theysupplieda white PVC cap.So I drilled a hole in the cap for a tube( I used a brass tube from an oldball point pen, an older one, all new ones are plastic) Put a thermos corkon the end of thin welding rod ( the thin stuff 1/16 I think). put the capback on with no fuel, and let it fall to bottom of tank. Thencut off therod about 1/4" above tube, and bend tip at 90 deg. Works great, just floatsand spins around while you fly along. And you don't have to wonder.....onemoving part.walt-----Original Message-----
Robert,When I built my Fisher 404 I wanted a fuel guage like a cub. Theysupplieda white PVC cap.So I drilled a hole in the cap for a tube( I used a brass tube from an oldball point pen, an older one, all new ones are plastic) Put a thermos corkon the end of thin welding rod ( the thin stuff 1/16 I think). put the capback on with no fuel, and let it fall to bottom of tank. Thencut off therod about 1/4" above tube, and bend tip at 90 deg. Works great, just floatsand spins around while you fly along. And you don't have to wonder.....onemoving part.walt-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: Wayne and Kathy
robert hensarling wrote:> > I'd like to get ideas from the list about the wire "sight guage". My GN-1> doesn't have one. The fuel tank in behind the engine, and the fuel cap has> the tube in it so that I can use the wire guage. A friend suggested> aluminum rod and some sort of styrofoam floater, however I'm wondering is> this (the rod) might be to light, and wind pressure will not allow the> float fall while flying. Don't know about using foam either, seems like it> would get eaten up. Someone else mentioned something about thermos bottle> cork, and coating it with epoxy, and using a stainless steel rod.> > Any ideas?> Robert Hensarling GN-1 N83887> http://www.mesquite-furniture.com> rhrocker(at)admin.hilconet.com> Uvalde, TexasHi Robert; You should use 116 or 332 music wire and good old fashioned cork.The cork is fastened to the wire by soldering washers to the wire oneither side of the cork or by putting a crook in the wire above the corkand bending the wire over below it. It is also good to do somthing atthe very top of the wire for eye safety.Wayne Tokarzin Cold Lake________________________________________________________________________________
robert hensarling wrote:> > I'd like to get ideas from the list about the wire "sight guage". My GN-1> doesn't have one. The fuel tank in behind the engine, and the fuel cap has> the tube in it so that I can use the wire guage. A friend suggested> aluminum rod and some sort of styrofoam floater, however I'm wondering is> this (the rod) might be to light, and wind pressure will not allow the> float fall while flying. Don't know about using foam either, seems like it> would get eaten up. Someone else mentioned something about thermos bottle> cork, and coating it with epoxy, and using a stainless steel rod.> > Any ideas?> Robert Hensarling GN-1 N83887> http://www.mesquite-furniture.com> rhrocker(at)admin.hilconet.com> Uvalde, TexasHi Robert; You should use 116 or 332 music wire and good old fashioned cork.The cork is fastened to the wire by soldering washers to the wire oneither side of the cork or by putting a crook in the wire above the corkand bending the wire over below it. It is also good to do somthing atthe very top of the wire for eye safety.Wayne Tokarzin Cold Lake________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: steve(at)byu.edu
>robert hensarling wrote:>> >> I'd like to get ideas from the list.....Robert- I used 1/16" diam. s/s welding rod bent to a 'J' shapeat one end and inserted the straight end thru two corks I epoxied end to end (wide ends) and shaved to a cylinder shape,then dipped the cork in standard shellac and let dry-about 6 coats.Then cut the rod and put a 90 deg. bend in after you've put it thruyour fuel cap 'guide tube' at a length to suite you. The shellac willnot tolerate alcohol as well as regualar avgas or autogas w/ no alcohol.I use no vent on my fuel tank- the guide tube for the 1/16" float wire has enough space to allow venting. A fuel flow test should be donethough on any homebuilt as per the horsepower, climb angle, maxpower fuel consumption as laid out in the Tony Bingelis books.Mike C. robert hensarling wrote: I'd like to get ideas from the list.....Robert- I used 1/16 diam. s/s welding rod bent to a 'J'shapeat one end and inserted the straight end thru two corks I epoxied end to end (wide ends) and shaved to a cylinder shape,then dipped the cork in standard shellac and let dry-about 6 coats.Then cut the rod and put a 90 deg. bend in after you've put it thruyour fuel cap 'guide tube' at a length to suite you. The shellacwillnot tolerate alcohol as well as regualar avgas or autogas w/ noalcohol.I use no vent on my fuel tank- the guide tube for the 1/16 floatwire has enough space to allow venting. A fuel flow test should bedonethough on any homebuilt as per the horsepower, climb angle, maxpower fuel consumption as laid out in the Tony Bingelis books.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
>robert hensarling wrote:>> >> I'd like to get ideas from the list.....Robert- I used 1/16" diam. s/s welding rod bent to a 'J' shapeat one end and inserted the straight end thru two corks I epoxied end to end (wide ends) and shaved to a cylinder shape,then dipped the cork in standard shellac and let dry-about 6 coats.Then cut the rod and put a 90 deg. bend in after you've put it thruyour fuel cap 'guide tube' at a length to suite you. The shellac willnot tolerate alcohol as well as regualar avgas or autogas w/ no alcohol.I use no vent on my fuel tank- the guide tube for the 1/16" float wire has enough space to allow venting. A fuel flow test should be donethough on any homebuilt as per the horsepower, climb angle, maxpower fuel consumption as laid out in the Tony Bingelis books.Mike C. robert hensarling wrote: I'd like to get ideas from the list.....Robert- I used 1/16 diam. s/s welding rod bent to a 'J'shapeat one end and inserted the straight end thru two corks I epoxied end to end (wide ends) and shaved to a cylinder shape,then dipped the cork in standard shellac and let dry-about 6 coats.Then cut the rod and put a 90 deg. bend in after you've put it thruyour fuel cap 'guide tube' at a length to suite you. The shellacwillnot tolerate alcohol as well as regualar avgas or autogas w/ noalcohol.I use no vent on my fuel tank- the guide tube for the 1/16 floatwire has enough space to allow venting. A fuel flow test should bedonethough on any homebuilt as per the horsepower, climb angle, maxpower fuel consumption as laid out in the Tony Bingelis books.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: fuel gauge
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
I've been following the discussion on the fuel gauges and agree that the "Stearman-type" gauge in the conventional location does have concerns. For those not familiar with how this typically ends up looking, you can see one at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/Pb030014.jpg and readily note that it is in the area used by the passenger boarding from the port side (conventional setup).William Wynne, whose Corvair-powered Piet crashed a few years ago, was burned due to this very situation. The fuel fittings in the sump/outlet area broke off in the crash and spilled fuel into the cockpit area, where it ignited. William is now advocating a setup with either a breakaway flow-check fitting, or a different sump and fuel outlet connection since the tank itself remained intact in the crash of his Piet. Any improvement on the conventional outlet and gauge setup is a real plus.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.netGet a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:47:59 -0500
I've been following the discussion on the fuel gauges and agree that the "Stearman-type" gauge in the conventional location does have concerns. For those not familiar with how this typically ends up looking, you can see one at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/Pb030014.jpg and readily note that it is in the area used by the passenger boarding from the port side (conventional setup).William Wynne, whose Corvair-powered Piet crashed a few years ago, was burned due to this very situation. The fuel fittings in the sump/outlet area broke off in the crash and spilled fuel into the cockpit area, where it ignited. William is now advocating a setup with either a breakaway flow-check fitting, or a different sump and fuel outlet connection since the tank itself remained intact in the crash of his Piet. Any improvement on the conventional outlet and gauge setup is a real plus.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.netGet a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:47:59 -0500
