Original Posted By: dannymac
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage glueing>Earl>where I'm fitting and gluing the longerons and cross pieces in (on thefirst>side) but I like to work out all the forseeable problems before starting.It>looks like the belt sander will do the job nicely.>-----Original Message----->From: Earl Myers >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 2:15 PM>Subject: Re: Fuselage glueing>>>>Sam;>> On my Scout, all I did was pull the two posts together AFTER the floor>and>>seatback were in and dried. When the two posts touched, I just eyeballed>and>>drew two parallel lines on the top and bottom of the posts then, using a>>belt sander, removed that material so that when the posts came togetherthe>>next time, they were nearly flat when mated. Along with all of this you>have>>to insure everything is plum and square....any number of methods willwork.>>When I glued the posts together (using T-88, it is structurally gap>filling)>>I also installed the triangular wood "gussets" on the top and bottom ofthe>>longerons that cover those posts and the cross pieces top and bottom under>>those gussets. I also waited two days to make sure these new joints were>>dry. The cross pieces and gussets were nailed in place AFTER the tailposts>>were glued and plummed, etc., and held in place during that time with>>bodacious (special clamps bought at the hardware store) "C" clamps. They>>were painted red cause red clamps hold better.......I then went back thru>>the aft airframe adding x pieces and gussets as required, cut to fit. You>>can't believe how much pull it will take to get those posts together!!>Gives>>you an idea as to how strong this airframe is when done.......>>earl myers>>-----Original Message----->>From: SAM & JAN MARINUCCI >>To: Pietenpol Discussion >>Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 12:52 PM>>Subject: Re: Fuselage glueing>>>>>>>Fellow Builders.......One huge question I have is how do you get theexact>>>taper at the tailpost so that it matches properly when pulled togetherfor>>>gluing? I've been mulling over this for some time now , any suggestions>>>would really be appreciated.>>>-----Original Message----->>>From: Alan Swanson >>>To: Pietenpol Discussion >>>Date: Sunday, May 30, 1999 1:25 AM>>>Subject: Re: Fuselage glueing>>>>>>>>>>Richard->>>>I agree with Earl's story. I glued everything forward of the rear seat,>>>>including the seat back, before pulling the tail pieces together. One>>work>>>>of caution- be sure when you glue the floor in, and then when pullingthe>>>>tail together, that the fuse is exactly square. I used a plumb linefrom>>>>the center of the front cross piece to the center of the tail post. I>>made>>>>marks on each cross piece to be sure I was square all the way to the>back.>>>>This was very helpful when mitering the tailpost pieces together.>>>>>>>>Its exciting when the tail comes together and it looks like it mightfly!>>>>>>>>Al Swanson>>>>>>>>>>>>>Richard;>>>>> In my Humble opinion, I would glue the x pieces in place back to the>>>point>>>>>of where the fuselage would start to taper when you pull the tail posts>>>>>together. Glue the floor in along with all the x piece gussetts. You>will>>>be>>>>>pleasently surprised at how strong the thing becomes when the floor is>>in.>>>>>After that has dried, pull the two tail posts together and beginfilling>>>in>>>>>the balance of the x pieces......the floor will keep your nerves calmby>>>>>absorbing all that x member compression.....the seat back will do this>>>>>too.........The only devation from the stock Scout plans I made was at>>the>>>>>seat back on up to the firewall. I made the fuselage two inches widerto>>>>>accompanying my size. A stock A/C is tight....the Scout is two inches>>>>>narrower in general and three inches narrower at the seat back. I>mention>>>>>this because with the seat back in and the floor on, pulling the>fuselage>>>>>halves together was rough enough with the short fuselage. With the same>>>>>length but 3" wider at the seat, it was really a strain to match up the>>>>>tailposts! Glueing in the seatback and floor made this pulling fairly>>easy>>>>>but nervewracking non the less.>>>>>Earl Myers>>>>>>>>>>Mike Cuy, back to you, 10-4!>>>>>-----Original Message----->>>>>From: bwm >>>>>To: Pietenpol Discussion >>>>>Date: Saturday, May 29, 1999 8:32 PM>>>>>Subject: Re: Fuselage glueing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Richard DeCosta wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I now have my 2 fuse sides upside-down in the the jig and all the>>>>>>> various cross-pieces cut. I have been clamping them in place in>>>>>>> preperation for glueing, and have noticed considerable strain on the>>>>>>> wood durring this process. Should I glue the 3/16" ply floor on at>the>>>>>>> same time as the cross pieces underneath, or will it hold ok by me>>just>>>>>>> glueing the cross-pieces in? I dont have the ply for the floor yet,>>and>>>>>>> wont have for probably 2-3 weeks. If it's too much for just thecross>>>>>>> pieces, Ill wait til I have the ply.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard>>>>>>> p.s. it finally looks like a plane!
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http://www.AirCamper.org/w3builder>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Richard,>>>>>>>>>>>>I assembled mine by placing it upside down on the table and inserting>>>>>>and butt-gluing the cross members in. at the time, I didnt have the>>>>>>floor board material either. I bar-clamped it all together in the>front>>>>>>and pulled the tail post area together , held them with bar clamps and>>>>>>let it all dry. I went ahead and made and glued up the ttriangular>>>>>>gussetts at the tailpost (Top and Bottom). Then I carefully removed>>>>>>(with the help of the missus and a friend) the whole fuselage. BEVERY>>>>>>SLOW AND CAREFUL HERE!>>>>>>>>>>>>Turned it right side up and carefully glued in the gussetts that>>>>>>connnect the two slab sides . Mine is a GN1 and I dont remember>exactly>>>>>>how a piet is - but mine called for three big gussetts that span from>>>>>>side to side and are glued to the top of each longeron (locetd just>>>>>>underneath each instrument panel and one is immediately behind the>>>>>>firewall). They are about 6" wide by fuse width in length.>>>>>>>>>>>>I also temporarily made and fastened gussetts ( 2" x fuse width) AHEAD>>>>>>of the firewall. You see I left about 4 " ahead of station zero on>mine>>>>>>for ease of handling. This was later cut away when I made my firewll.>>>>>>>>>>>>If this is confusing, sorry.>>>>>>Bottom Line is yes you can remove and continue work before puttin in>the>>>>>>floor-just think ahead.>>>>>>Good Luck - Its fun when it starts looking like an airplane. Youcould>>>>>>also make it a boat I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>Bert>>>>>>bwm(at)planttel.net>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________