Original Posted By: bwm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: glue choice?>I am resuming work on a Piet started 20 years ago when I was in high>school. My question for you experienced builders is, what type of glue>should I be using? Back then we used resoursinol (see, it's been so long I>can't even spell it right) for the wing ribs, and the ribs are what I am>starting with again (about 9 ribs are left to do). Cast your votes,please.>>Thanks,>>Eric>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: glue choice?
Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?>There is a really interesting article in the May 1999 Expirementor dealing>with the properties of Polyeurathane glues relative to resoursinol. In>some areas it exceeded the resoursinols but in others it didnt. It also>depended on the brand of Polyeurathane used. The article is actually an>FPL report and is quite dry reading, but it's certainly packed with facts.>Other good choices include>>T-88: great strength and gap filling capabilities>>West System epoxy: better for large area laminates, easy to mix, poorer>gap filling properties but great penetration into the wood. It's a lot>thinner than T-88.>>I use mainly T-88 and West System on the Christavia although I did try a>little polyeurathane on the doubler plates for the spars.>>Ken>>On Mon, 31 May 1999, Eric Norris wrote:>>> I am resuming work on a Piet started 20 years ago when I was in high>> school. My question for you experienced builders is, what type of glue>> should I be using? Back then we used resoursinol (see, it's been so longI>> can't even spell it right) for the wing ribs, and the ribs are what I am>> starting with again (about 9 ribs are left to do). Cast your votes,please.>>>> Thanks,>>>> Eric>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?>There is a really interesting article in the May 1999 Expirementor dealing>with the properties of Polyeurathane glues relative to resoursinol. In>some areas it exceeded the resoursinols but in others it didnt. It also>depended on the brand of Polyeurathane used. The article is actually an>FPL report and is quite dry reading, but it's certainly packed with facts.>Other good choices include>>T-88: great strength and gap filling capabilities>>West System epoxy: better for large area laminates, easy to mix, poorer>gap filling properties but great penetration into the wood. It's a lot>thinner than T-88.>>I use mainly T-88 and West System on the Christavia although I did try a>little polyeurathane on the doubler plates for the spars.>>Ken>>On Mon, 31 May 1999, Eric Norris wrote:>>> I am resuming work on a Piet started 20 years ago when I was in high>> school. My question for you experienced builders is, what type of glue>> should I be using? Back then we used resoursinol (see, it's been so longI>> can't even spell it right) for the wing ribs, and the ribs are what I am>> starting with again (about 9 ribs are left to do). Cast your votes,please.>>>> Thanks,>>>> Eric>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: glue choice?
Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
I am resuming work on a Piet started 20 years ago when I was in highschool. My question for you experienced builders is, what type of glueshould I be using? Back then we used resoursinol (see, it's been so long Ican't even spell it right) for the wing ribs, and the ribs are what I amstarting with again (about 9 ribs are left to do). Cast your votes, please.Thanks,Eric ________________________________________________________________________________
I am resuming work on a Piet started 20 years ago when I was in highschool. My question for you experienced builders is, what type of glueshould I be using? Back then we used resoursinol (see, it's been so long Ican't even spell it right) for the wing ribs, and the ribs are what I amstarting with again (about 9 ribs are left to do). Cast your votes, please.Thanks,Eric ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?
Original Posted By: PTNPOL(at)aol.com
There is a really interesting article in the May 1999 Expirementor dealingwith the properties of Polyeurathane glues relative to resoursinol. Insome areas it exceeded the resoursinols but in others it didnt. It alsodepended on the brand of Polyeurathane used. The article is actually anFPL report and is quite dry reading, but it's certainly packed with facts.Other good choices include T-88: great strength and gap filling capabilitiesWest System epoxy: better for large area laminates, easy to mix, poorergap filling properties but great penetration into the wood. It's a lotthinner than T-88.I use mainly T-88 and West System on the Christavia although I did try alittle polyeurathane on the doubler plates for the spars.KenOn Mon, 31 May 1999, Eric Norris wrote:> I am resuming work on a Piet started 20 years ago when I was in high> school. My question for you experienced builders is, what type of glue> should I be using? Back then we used resoursinol (see, it's been so long I> can't even spell it right) for the wing ribs, and the ribs are what I am> starting with again (about 9 ribs are left to do). Cast your votes, please.> > Thanks,> > Eric________________________________________________________________________________
There is a really interesting article in the May 1999 Expirementor dealingwith the properties of Polyeurathane glues relative to resoursinol. Insome areas it exceeded the resoursinols but in others it didnt. It alsodepended on the brand of Polyeurathane used. The article is actually anFPL report and is quite dry reading, but it's certainly packed with facts.Other good choices include T-88: great strength and gap filling capabilitiesWest System epoxy: better for large area laminates, easy to mix, poorergap filling properties but great penetration into the wood. It's a lotthinner than T-88.I use mainly T-88 and West System on the Christavia although I did try alittle polyeurathane on the doubler plates for the spars.KenOn Mon, 31 May 1999, Eric Norris wrote:> I am resuming work on a Piet started 20 years ago when I was in high> school. My question for you experienced builders is, what type of glue> should I be using? Back then we used resoursinol (see, it's been so long I> can't even spell it right) for the wing ribs, and the ribs are what I am> starting with again (about 9 ribs are left to do). Cast your votes, please.> > Thanks,> > Eric________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?
Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
My first choice is T-88....easy to mix, comes in one flavor and isstructurally gap fillingEarl Myers-----Original Message-----
My first choice is T-88....easy to mix, comes in one flavor and isstructurally gap fillingEarl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Fw: glue choice?
Original Posted By: Eric Norris
Eric,T-88 is my vote. Why use anything else? I'm on my second project with it.( flew my first about an hour ago, so I trust it).walt-----Original Message-----
Eric,T-88 is my vote. Why use anything else? I'm on my second project with it.( flew my first about an hour ago, so I trust it).walt-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?
Original Posted By: John R Bayer
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?>> I use West System also.>>You can use micro ballons and talc for filling.>> Do not use micro balloons and talc to thicken West System epoxy for>structural uses, only for "fairing" and fiilling!> They make a product that is used to thicken it for structural>needs. I don't have it handy so can't give the number but it is in their>catalog. They have a newsletter that is interesting. I buy mine at "West>Marine" a boating supply store chain.>Tom>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?>> I use West System also.>>You can use micro ballons and talc for filling.>> Do not use micro balloons and talc to thicken West System epoxy for>structural uses, only for "fairing" and fiilling!> They make a product that is used to thicken it for structural>needs. I don't have it handy so can't give the number but it is in their>catalog. They have a newsletter that is interesting. I buy mine at "West>Marine" a boating supply store chain.>Tom>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?
Original Posted By: walter evans
T-88 has some good properties like everyone said. I use West System also.You can use micro ballons and talc for filling. I had an old timer at Osh'tell me how to buy the seperate components to make T-88 last year. Ihaven't done it yet because I haven't ran out of my current supply. I'lltry to dig up the notes he gave me and post them and see if anyone hascomments. He said it would save half the cost over buying the repackagedT-88.Greg Yotz-----Original Message-----
T-88 has some good properties like everyone said. I use West System also.You can use micro ballons and talc for filling. I had an old timer at Osh'tell me how to buy the seperate components to make T-88 last year. Ihaven't done it yet because I haven't ran out of my current supply. I'lltry to dig up the notes he gave me and post them and see if anyone hascomments. He said it would save half the cost over buying the repackagedT-88.Greg Yotz-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Fw: glue choice?
Original Posted By: Eric Norris
T-88 is available thru the usual Aircraft Supply houses...Aircraft Spruce,Wicks.......Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
T-88 is available thru the usual Aircraft Supply houses...Aircraft Spruce,Wicks.......Earl Myers-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?
Original Posted By: Thomas E Bowdler
Sorry for the way I typed that. I had a complete thought in my head but itdidn't make it to the keyboard.I was going to say the same thing. For filleting, use MB or talc. For gapfilling us the additive.Sorry...Greg Yotz-----Original Message-----
Sorry for the way I typed that. I had a complete thought in my head but itdidn't make it to the keyboard.I was going to say the same thing. For filleting, use MB or talc. For gapfilling us the additive.Sorry...Greg Yotz-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: glue choice?
Original Posted By: "Conrad, Bart D"
> I use West System also.>You can use micro ballons and talc for filling. Do not use micro balloons and talc to thicken West System epoxy forstructural uses, only for "fairing" and fiilling! They make a product that is used to thicken it for structuralneeds. I don't have it handy so can't give the number but it is in theircatalog. They have a newsletter that is interesting. I buy mine at "WestMarine" a boating supply store chain. Tom__________________________________________________________________________________________
> I use West System also.>You can use micro ballons and talc for filling. Do not use micro balloons and talc to thicken West System epoxy forstructural uses, only for "fairing" and fiilling! They make a product that is used to thicken it for structuralneeds. I don't have it handy so can't give the number but it is in theircatalog. They have a newsletter that is interesting. I buy mine at "WestMarine" a boating supply store chain. Tom__________________________________________________________________________________________