Original Posted By: Steve W
Michael D Cuy Can you tell me what the dimensions and material used for you great lookinghubsalso the diameter and the number of spoke holes? also what type of tube didyou use for the axle and any thing you might do deferent next time. If Imake up some drawings I have access to a Haas mill and a man to run it, hopeto have my fuselage on wheels buy the in of the yearThank YouKen Hannan________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Hubs
Original Posted By: walter evans
>> Michael D Cuy> > Can you tell me what the dimensions and material used for you great looking> hubs> also the diameter and the number of spoke holes? also what type of tube did> you use for the axle and any thing you might do deferent next time. If I make> up some drawings I have access to a Haas mill and a man to run it, hope to> have my fuselage on wheels buy the in of the year> > Thank You> > Ken Hannan> Ken- I machined some 4" diameter x 1/8" thick stainless steel for the hub ends,thenwelded those onto a 6" long s/s tube. I forget the wall thickness of the tube.The axle as I recall was 0.22" thick 4130 chromolly from Dillsburg Aero inDillsburgPA. 717-432-4589. 1.5" o.d. with standard axle nuts and cotter pinned. Flanged oil-lite sinteredbronze bushings to fit the hubs and axle. (visit Bearings, Inc. now calledAppliedIndustrial Technologies or your local bearing dealer near home) Made my gearwider than plans....forget exactly. Maybe 4" wider ? I used 40 spokealuminumrims 19" x 3.5 found after going to 5 to 8 motorcycle shops all over northernOhio.They were undrilled. I would go the same route again. One note- for the wide a/c hubs use all 'inner' spokes, not the inner/outeralternating method seen on some bikes. This avoids the 'root' of the spokefromrubbing or bending over your flange from the outside. If you make them all'inner' spokes this won't create a potential problem. Took lots ofmeasurementsand photos of how other guys did theirs and made my own conclusions.So far, so good
) I took the rims and hub to the local cycle shop and hefaxed my dimensions out to Buchannen's Frame Shop in CA and they rolled80 stainless 8 gauge spokes for my application. My Piet weighs probably 1/2what a Goldwing does. 632 lbs. I've seen many guys use stock mocycle wheelsand brakes with no problems, but have been told that wider hubs are the wiserchoice for resisting side loads, ground loops and your basic 'fold them overlike an inside-out umbrella mode'. Building the wheels was an education untoitself. I have about $ 600 into rims, tires, tubes, axle, spokes, nipples,etc.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
>> Michael D Cuy> > Can you tell me what the dimensions and material used for you great looking> hubs> also the diameter and the number of spoke holes? also what type of tube did> you use for the axle and any thing you might do deferent next time. If I make> up some drawings I have access to a Haas mill and a man to run it, hope to> have my fuselage on wheels buy the in of the year> > Thank You> > Ken Hannan> Ken- I machined some 4" diameter x 1/8" thick stainless steel for the hub ends,thenwelded those onto a 6" long s/s tube. I forget the wall thickness of the tube.The axle as I recall was 0.22" thick 4130 chromolly from Dillsburg Aero inDillsburgPA. 717-432-4589. 1.5" o.d. with standard axle nuts and cotter pinned. Flanged oil-lite sinteredbronze bushings to fit the hubs and axle. (visit Bearings, Inc. now calledAppliedIndustrial Technologies or your local bearing dealer near home) Made my gearwider than plans....forget exactly. Maybe 4" wider ? I used 40 spokealuminumrims 19" x 3.5 found after going to 5 to 8 motorcycle shops all over northernOhio.They were undrilled. I would go the same route again. One note- for the wide a/c hubs use all 'inner' spokes, not the inner/outeralternating method seen on some bikes. This avoids the 'root' of the spokefromrubbing or bending over your flange from the outside. If you make them all'inner' spokes this won't create a potential problem. Took lots ofmeasurementsand photos of how other guys did theirs and made my own conclusions.So far, so good
) I took the rims and hub to the local cycle shop and hefaxed my dimensions out to Buchannen's Frame Shop in CA and they rolled80 stainless 8 gauge spokes for my application. My Piet weighs probably 1/2what a Goldwing does. 632 lbs. I've seen many guys use stock mocycle wheelsand brakes with no problems, but have been told that wider hubs are the wiserchoice for resisting side loads, ground loops and your basic 'fold them overlike an inside-out umbrella mode'. Building the wheels was an education untoitself. I have about $ 600 into rims, tires, tubes, axle, spokes, nipples,etc.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________Pietenpol-List: Re: Hubs
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
MichaelAnd 8 gages spoke dia. is .1285 what dia. hole did you drill in the hubflange?it looks like the hole would have to be large enough for the bend to gothough?Thanks for the quick responseKen ----- Original Message -----
MichaelAnd 8 gages spoke dia. is .1285 what dia. hole did you drill in the hubflange?it looks like the hole would have to be large enough for the bend to gothough?Thanks for the quick responseKen ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Hubs
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
>> Michael> > And 8 gages spoke dia. is .1285 what dia. hole did you drill in the hub> flange?> it looks like the hole would have to be large enough for the bend to go> though?> > Thanks for the quick response> KenKen- I have the size hole I drilled at home on a sketch. I'm sure it was justbarely enough to get the straight end of the spoke thru. I also countersunkthe holes on the outside face of the hubs to conform with the countersunkshape of the spoke end.Mike C. MichaelAnd 8 gages spoke dia. is .1285 what dia. hole did you drill in the hubflange?it looks like the hole would have to be large enough for the bend to gothough?Thanks for the quick responseKenKen- I have the size hole I drilled at home on a sketch. I'm sureit was justbarely enough to get the straight end of the spoke thru. I alsocountersunkthe holes on the outside face of the hubs to conform with thecountersunkshape of the spoke end.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________
>> Michael> > And 8 gages spoke dia. is .1285 what dia. hole did you drill in the hub> flange?> it looks like the hole would have to be large enough for the bend to go> though?> > Thanks for the quick response> KenKen- I have the size hole I drilled at home on a sketch. I'm sure it was justbarely enough to get the straight end of the spoke thru. I also countersunkthe holes on the outside face of the hubs to conform with the countersunkshape of the spoke end.Mike C. MichaelAnd 8 gages spoke dia. is .1285 what dia. hole did you drill in the hubflange?it looks like the hole would have to be large enough for the bend to gothough?Thanks for the quick responseKenKen- I have the size hole I drilled at home on a sketch. I'm sureit was justbarely enough to get the straight end of the spoke thru. I alsocountersunkthe holes on the outside face of the hubs to conform with thecountersunkshape of the spoke end.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________