Original Posted By: steve(at)byu.edu
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair>Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put shaft?>________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: walter evans
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair>Walt:>>Interesting pic's you posted on the Piet discussion group about the>gentleman in Sussex and the Corvair redrive. I too am planning a Corvair>conversion with a redrive - I've purchased plans from Vertical Systems for>the Rinker redrive.>>Can you give me any information about how to get ahold of the guy inSussex.>I'd sure like to ask a few questions. At one point I was in touch with Bob>Schiffel, also of Sussex, who worked with a guy who helped him with his>redrive. I wonder if its the same person.>>Mark Boynton>Gilbert, Arizona>>>>>>>_______>Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com>Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair>Walt:>>Interesting pic's you posted on the Piet discussion group about the>gentleman in Sussex and the Corvair redrive. I too am planning a Corvair>conversion with a redrive - I've purchased plans from Vertical Systems for>the Rinker redrive.>>Can you give me any information about how to get ahold of the guy inSussex.>I'd sure like to ask a few questions. At one point I was in touch with Bob>Schiffel, also of Sussex, who worked with a guy who helped him with his>redrive. I wonder if its the same person.>>Mark Boynton>Gilbert, Arizona>>>>>>>_______>Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com>Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Earl Myers
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair>Walt:>>Interesting pic's you posted on the Piet discussion group about the>gentleman in Sussex and the Corvair redrive. I too am planning a Corvair>conversion with a redrive - I've purchased plans from Vertical Systems for>the Rinker redrive.>>Can you give me any information about how to get ahold of the guy inSussex.>I'd sure like to ask a few questions. At one point I was in touch with Bob>Schiffel, also of Sussex, who worked with a guy who helped him with his>redrive. I wonder if its the same person.>>Mark Boynton>Gilbert, Arizona>>>>>>>_______>Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com>Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair>Walt:>>Interesting pic's you posted on the Piet discussion group about the>gentleman in Sussex and the Corvair redrive. I too am planning a Corvair>conversion with a redrive - I've purchased plans from Vertical Systems for>the Rinker redrive.>>Can you give me any information about how to get ahold of the guy inSussex.>I'd sure like to ask a few questions. At one point I was in touch with Bob>Schiffel, also of Sussex, who worked with a guy who helped him with his>redrive. I wonder if its the same person.>>Mark Boynton>Gilbert, Arizona>>>>>>>_______>Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com>Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: walter evans
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvairMine will be ford powered . I have seen several corvairs at Brodheadover the years and I haven't seen a reduction unit yet. Contact DonPietenpol at the Pietenpol web sight. or check the Buckeye Pietenpolpage faq. However Don is the horses mouth so to speak. He makes a nicealuminum hub that solves your problem.Just my opinion but I think anyone that tells you that a reduction unitis necessary is probably selling one. Ted.T________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvairMine will be ford powered . I have seen several corvairs at Brodheadover the years and I haven't seen a reduction unit yet. Contact DonPietenpol at the Pietenpol web sight. or check the Buckeye Pietenpolpage faq. However Don is the horses mouth so to speak. He makes a nicealuminum hub that solves your problem.Just my opinion but I think anyone that tells you that a reduction unitis necessary is probably selling one. Ted.T________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: John Duprey
Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put shaft?________________________________________________________________________________
Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put shaft?________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
If by direct coupling you mean bolting prop to the crankshaft. Thereall that way. With an engine that developes most of its horsepower inthe mid 2000's theres no reason for a speed reduction unit. The onlydraw back is you need a prop that turns the other way.Ted .T________________________________________________________________________________
If by direct coupling you mean bolting prop to the crankshaft. Thereall that way. With an engine that developes most of its horsepower inthe mid 2000's theres no reason for a speed reduction unit. The onlydraw back is you need a prop that turns the other way.Ted .T________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: william hutson
Thanks Ted: I've seen 2 corvair powered Piets recently, both had reduction units. Thats why I asked. Do you have one or know of one? Ryder________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks Ted: I've seen 2 corvair powered Piets recently, both had reduction units. Thats why I asked. Do you have one or know of one? Ryder________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: walter evans
Mine will be ford powered . I have seen several corvairs at Brodheadover the years and I haven't seen a reduction unit yet. Contact DonPietenpol at the Pietenpol web sight. or check the Buckeye Pietenpolpage faq. However Don is the horses mouth so to speak. He makes a nicealuminum hub that solves your problem. Just my opinion but I think anyone that tells you that a reduction unitis necessary is probably selling one. Ted.T ________________________________________________________________________________
Mine will be ford powered . I have seen several corvairs at Brodheadover the years and I haven't seen a reduction unit yet. Contact DonPietenpol at the Pietenpol web sight. or check the Buckeye Pietenpolpage faq. However Don is the horses mouth so to speak. He makes a nicealuminum hub that solves your problem. Just my opinion but I think anyone that tells you that a reduction unitis necessary is probably selling one. Ted.T ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Fw: unique corvair
Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com
Mark,This is the same person. His first corvair is on Bob 's Piet and thesecond on the experimental in the photo.Some of the pics show a casting before and after modification.waltps. Just yesterday Dick asked me to email the co. Vertical systems thru asite address on their casting, but it got sent back. Do you have an addressfor them ( email or postal?)thanks again...walt-----Original Message-----
Mark,This is the same person. His first corvair is on Bob 's Piet and thesecond on the experimental in the photo.Some of the pics show a casting before and after modification.waltps. Just yesterday Dick asked me to email the co. Vertical systems thru asite address on their casting, but it got sent back. Do you have an addressfor them ( email or postal?)thanks again...walt-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Fw: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Theodore Trevorrow
Ted,Just a thought, find out what prop the corvairs are running, and comparethat to what the fords or 65 cont. are running. See if the direct coupledCorvairs are turning a twice horsepower prop.walt-----Original Message-----
Ted,Just a thought, find out what prop the corvairs are running, and comparethat to what the fords or 65 cont. are running. See if the direct coupledCorvairs are turning a twice horsepower prop.walt-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Fw: unique corvair
Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com
Mark,Sorry forgot his number.....Dick Lawson 973-383-7821walt-----Original Message-----
Mark,Sorry forgot his number.....Dick Lawson 973-383-7821walt-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By:> Greg Yotz
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvairMy corvair is developing 340#+ lbs of thrust at 2600' @3000 rpm static,3blade warpdrive 60 " prop.The c-85 powered champ with a 71 41 prop wasshowing 362 # thrust.Doug Hunt
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvairMy corvair is developing 340#+ lbs of thrust at 2600' @3000 rpm static,3blade warpdrive 60 " prop.The c-85 powered champ with a 71 41 prop wasshowing 362 # thrust.Doug Hunt
Pietenpol-List: FW: unique corvair
Original Posted By: tim moosey
Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: unique corvair>>>I think with the Corvair engine on a Piet there is more power availablethan>is needed. Because of this you can afford to throw some away. By using a>prop that limits engine speed to 2600 RPM you lose some of the potential HP>of the engine but you still have plenty. With a reduction you could get>more power from the engine .>Marc>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------->------------------------------------------------------>I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW but thats>because it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than the>Corvair.>If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the prop>would be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop) so>the prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picth>according to the hp and torch produced by the engine. Unless someone has>figure a modification to the Corvair to make it produce it's max hp at 2600>rpms or so.>>GY>>-----Original Message----->>> >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put>shaft?> >>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: unique corvair>>>I think with the Corvair engine on a Piet there is more power availablethan>is needed. Because of this you can afford to throw some away. By using a>prop that limits engine speed to 2600 RPM you lose some of the potential HP>of the engine but you still have plenty. With a reduction you could get>more power from the engine .>Marc>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------->------------------------------------------------------>I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW but thats>because it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than the>Corvair.>If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the prop>would be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop) so>the prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picth>according to the hp and torch produced by the engine. Unless someone has>figure a modification to the Corvair to make it produce it's max hp at 2600>rpms or so.>>GY>>-----Original Message----->>> >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put>shaft?> >>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: ToySat(at)aol.com
I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW but thatsbecause it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than theCorvair.If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the propwould be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop) sothe prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picthaccording to the hp and torch produced by the engine.Unless someone has figure a modification to the Corvair to make it produceit's max hp at 2600 rpms or so.GY-----Original Message-----
I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW but thatsbecause it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than theCorvair.If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the propwould be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop) sothe prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picthaccording to the hp and torch produced by the engine.Unless someone has figure a modification to the Corvair to make it produceit's max hp at 2600 rpms or so.GY-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Michael King
B.H. Pietenpol's corvair conversion is direct drive. Check out theconversion plans, still available from Don Pietenpol.Lauren________________________________________________________________________________
B.H. Pietenpol's corvair conversion is direct drive. Check out theconversion plans, still available from Don Pietenpol.Lauren________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: FW: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Greg Yotz
I think with the Corvair engine on a Piet there is more power available thanis needed. Because of this you can afford to throw some away. By using aprop that limits engine speed to 2600 RPM you lose some of the potential HPof the engine but you still have plenty. With a reduction you could getmore power from the engine .Marc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW but thatsbecause it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than theCorvair.If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the propwould be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop) sothe prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picthaccording to the hp and torch produced by the engine. Unless someone hasfigure a modification to the Corvair to make it produce it's max hp at 2600rpms or so.GY-----Original Message----- >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-putshaft? >________________________________________________________________________________
I think with the Corvair engine on a Piet there is more power available thanis needed. Because of this you can afford to throw some away. By using aprop that limits engine speed to 2600 RPM you lose some of the potential HPof the engine but you still have plenty. With a reduction you could getmore power from the engine .Marc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW but thatsbecause it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than theCorvair.If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the propwould be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop) sothe prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picthaccording to the hp and torch produced by the engine. Unless someone hasfigure a modification to the Corvair to make it produce it's max hp at 2600rpms or so.GY-----Original Message----- >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-putshaft? >________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Davis, Marc
That makes since. I wonder what the horsepower/torque is being put out atthis RPM on a direct drive unit?I started to build around a Corvair but just came upon a Model A engine andnow I'llprobably us it instead.GY-----Original Message-----
That makes since. I wonder what the horsepower/torque is being put out atthis RPM on a direct drive unit?I started to build around a Corvair but just came upon a Model A engine andnow I'llprobably us it instead.GY-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Fw: unique corvair
Original Posted By:> mboynton(at)excite.com
Walt,I have Lars Nelson's (the proprietor of Vertical Systems) address and phonenumber. The last time I checked, his web site was not active.Unfortunately, I don't have the information with me right now, but I'll getit to you tomorrow.Mark> Mark,> This is the same person. His first corvair is on Bob 's Piet and the> second on the experimental in the photo.> Some of the pics show a casting before and after modification.> walt> ps. Just yesterday Dick asked me to email the co. Vertical systems thru a> site address on their casting, but it got sent back. Do you have anaddress> for them ( email or postal?)> thanks again...walt> -----Original Message-----
Walt,I have Lars Nelson's (the proprietor of Vertical Systems) address and phonenumber. The last time I checked, his web site was not active.Unfortunately, I don't have the information with me right now, but I'll getit to you tomorrow.Mark> Mark,> This is the same person. His first corvair is on Bob 's Piet and the> second on the experimental in the photo.> Some of the pics show a casting before and after modification.> walt> ps. Just yesterday Dick asked me to email the co. Vertical systems thru a> site address on their casting, but it got sent back. Do you have anaddress> for them ( email or postal?)> thanks again...walt> -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By:> Greg Yotz
My corvair is developing 340#+ lbs of thrust at 2600' @3000 rpm static,3blade warpdrive 60 " prop.The c-85 powered champ with a 71 41 prop wasshowing 362 # thrust. Doug Hunt
My corvair is developing 340#+ lbs of thrust at 2600' @3000 rpm static,3blade warpdrive 60 " prop.The c-85 powered champ with a 71 41 prop wasshowing 362 # thrust. Doug Hunt
Pietenpol-List: Fw: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Doug
My point was that you are putting out less than 85hp. My friend whogears the corvairs, is trying to get more of the 110hp out.waltps I think that the one he has now, the engine turns about 3800rpm andhe wants to gear it to run about 4300/4500rpm, more into the hp curve.-----Original Message-----
My point was that you are putting out less than 85hp. My friend whogears the corvairs, is trying to get more of the 110hp out.waltps I think that the one he has now, the engine turns about 3800rpm andhe wants to gear it to run about 4300/4500rpm, more into the hp curve.-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: jmcnarry(at)techplus.com (John McNarry)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair>What is a 'fair' price for a used Corvair engine that hasn't been rebuilt?>>>GY>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair>What is a 'fair' price for a used Corvair engine that hasn't been rebuilt?>>>GY>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: ToySat(at)aol.com
The engine puts out 110hp @ 4400rpm; But, the max torque is produced @ 2800rpm,and is 160 lbs. The hp at this point is 85.3 if I got it right. Should be one sweet engine.________________________________________________________________________________
The engine puts out 110hp @ 4400rpm; But, the max torque is produced @ 2800rpm,and is 160 lbs. The hp at this point is 85.3 if I got it right. Should be one sweet engine.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: "David B. Schober"
Doug Hunt: Where do you live? Ryder Olsen________________________________________________________________________________
Doug Hunt: Where do you live? Ryder Olsen________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Pat Panzera
What is a 'fair' price for a used Corvair engine that hasn't been rebuilt?GY________________________________________________________________________________
What is a 'fair' price for a used Corvair engine that hasn't been rebuilt?GY________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Greg Yotz
About $100 if it's rebuildable...John W-----Original Message-----
About $100 if it's rebuildable...John W-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: John Weikel
Greg Yotz wrote:> > What is a 'fair' price for a used Corvair engine that hasn't been rebuilt?$100 - $300________________________________________________________________________________
Greg Yotz wrote:> > What is a 'fair' price for a used Corvair engine that hasn't been rebuilt?$100 - $300________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By:> ToySat(at)aol.com
I live in Alix,Alberta Canada.(central Alberta).Doug Hunt.
I live in Alix,Alberta Canada.(central Alberta).Doug Hunt.
Pietenpol-List: Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: MACKORELL(at)aol.com
Well Doug, I guess I won't be coming your way this weekend. I'm near Chicago. I will keep in touch though and one day I'll get a chance to see the bird. Ryder________________________________________________________________________________
Well Doug, I guess I won't be coming your way this weekend. I'm near Chicago. I will keep in touch though and one day I'll get a chance to see the bird. Ryder________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
> Subject: Re: unique corvair> > > >Walt:> >> >Interesting pic's you posted on the Piet discussion group about the> >gentleman in Sussex and the Corvair redrive. I too am planning aCorvair> >conversion with a redrive - I've purchased plans from Vertical Systemsfor> >the Rinker redrive.> >> >Can you give me any information about how to get ahold of the guy in> Sussex.> >I'd sure like to ask a few questions. At one point I was in touch withBob> >Schiffel, also of Sussex, who worked with a guy who helped him with his> >redrive. I wonder if its the same person.> >> >Mark Boynton> >Gilbert, Arizona> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >_______> >Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com> >Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com> >> _______Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.comTalk online at http://voicechat.excite.com________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: Re: unique corvair> > > >Walt:> >> >Interesting pic's you posted on the Piet discussion group about the> >gentleman in Sussex and the Corvair redrive. I too am planning aCorvair> >conversion with a redrive - I've purchased plans from Vertical Systemsfor> >the Rinker redrive.> >> >Can you give me any information about how to get ahold of the guy in> Sussex.> >I'd sure like to ask a few questions. At one point I was in touch withBob> >Schiffel, also of Sussex, who worked with a guy who helped him with his> >redrive. I wonder if its the same person.> >> >Mark Boynton> >Gilbert, Arizona> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >_______> >Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com> >Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com> >> _______Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.comTalk online at http://voicechat.excite.com________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By:> ToySat(at)aol.com
> > I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW butthats> because it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than the> Corvair.> If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the prop> would be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop)so> the prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picth> according to the hp and torch produced by the engine.> Unless someone has figure a modification to the Corvair to make itproduce> it's max hp at 2600 rpms or so.> > > GY> > > -----Original Message-----
> > I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW butthats> because it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than the> Corvair.> If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of the prop> would be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie, prop)so> the prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picth> according to the hp and torch produced by the engine.> Unless someone has figure a modification to the Corvair to make itproduce> it's max hp at 2600 rpms or so.> > > GY> > > -----Original Message-----
> Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: walter evans
> Subject: Re: unique corvair> > > >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put shaft?> >> ________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: Re: unique corvair> > > >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put shaft?> >> ________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By:> ToySat(at)aol.com
>> I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW butthats> because it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than the> Corvair.> If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of theprop> would be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie,prop) so> the prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picth> according to the hp and torch produced by the engine.> Unless someone has figure a modification to the Corvair to make itproduce> it's max hp at 2600 rpms or so.>>> GY>>> -----Original Message-----
>> I didn't think you could direct drive the Corvair. You can a VW butthats> because it reaches it's full hp production at much lower RPMs than the> Corvair.> If you directly coupled the prop to the Corvair the diameter of theprop> would be to small. You have to size the thrust disk diameter (ie,prop) so> the prop tips wouldn't break the sound barrier. Then design the picth> according to the hp and torch produced by the engine.> Unless someone has figure a modification to the Corvair to make itproduce> it's max hp at 2600 rpms or so.>>> GY>>> -----Original Message-----
> Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: Sanders Family
> Subject: Re: unique corvair>>> >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put shaft?> >>My point was that you are puttingout less than85hp. My friend who gears the corvairs, is trying to getmore of the110hp out.________________________________________________________________________________
> Subject: Re: unique corvair>>> >Has anyone used a corvair with direct coupling to the out-put shaft?> >>My point was that you are puttingout less than85hp. My friend who gears the corvairs, is trying to getmore of the110hp out.________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: unique corvair
Original Posted By: ToySat(at)aol.com
> > Doug Hunt: Where do you live? Ryder Olsen________________________________________________________________________________
> > Doug Hunt: Where do you live? Ryder Olsen________________________________________________________________________________