Original Posted By: Jay White
I've recently decided that I'm going to eventually build an Air Camper.Because I don't have room yet to start work on the plane, I'm going to startwith the engine. After reading as much as I could find about this subject,I've decided to go with a Corvair engine. I talked to a man recently who hasa 1960 Corvair, two door with a 110 HP engine (50K miles-rebuilt)andautomatic transmission. He says it ran two years ago when he parked it. Ithasn't been driven since. Would this engine be a good candidate for the AirCamper? Thanks.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: '60 Corvair Engine
Pietenpol-List: Re: '60 Corvair Engine
Original Posted By: Pat Panzera
Jay White wrote:> > I've recently decided that I'm going to eventually build an Air Camper.> Because I don't have room yet to start work on the plane, I'm going to start> with the engine. After reading as much as I could find about this subject,> I've decided to go with a Corvair engine. I talked to a man recently who has> a 1960 Corvair, two door with a 110 HP engine (50K miles-rebuilt)and> automatic transmission. He says it ran two years ago when he parked it. It> hasn't been driven since. Would this engine be a good candidate for the Air> Camper? Thanks.But the car, restore it and drive it.Then get William Wynne's book:http://www.omnispace.com/Corvair/The car may be a '60, but who know what the engine is.William's book gives engine numbers so you can positivelyidentify the mill, plus his manual gives you all the informationyou need to do the conversion, including building and installingthe prop hub.You can buy remanufactured components and assembly a zero timeengine, WAY cheaper than you can buy a questionable core, andhave the components rebuilt. Plus, you will end up with EXACTLYthe engine you need for your application.I've recently put together a Corvair website, not much therenow, but there are links to suppliers and there is a link to acorvair aircraft engine e-mail list that you can join.http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRA ... __________
Jay White wrote:> > I've recently decided that I'm going to eventually build an Air Camper.> Because I don't have room yet to start work on the plane, I'm going to start> with the engine. After reading as much as I could find about this subject,> I've decided to go with a Corvair engine. I talked to a man recently who has> a 1960 Corvair, two door with a 110 HP engine (50K miles-rebuilt)and> automatic transmission. He says it ran two years ago when he parked it. It> hasn't been driven since. Would this engine be a good candidate for the Air> Camper? Thanks.But the car, restore it and drive it.Then get William Wynne's book:http://www.omnispace.com/Corvair/The car may be a '60, but who know what the engine is.William's book gives engine numbers so you can positivelyidentify the mill, plus his manual gives you all the informationyou need to do the conversion, including building and installingthe prop hub.You can buy remanufactured components and assembly a zero timeengine, WAY cheaper than you can buy a questionable core, andhave the components rebuilt. Plus, you will end up with EXACTLYthe engine you need for your application.I've recently put together a Corvair website, not much therenow, but there are links to suppliers and there is a link to acorvair aircraft engine e-mail list that you can join.http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRA ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: '60 Corvair Engine
Original Posted By: Leo Powning
Pat Panzera wrote:> But the car, restore it and drive it.oops.... that should read, "BUY the car, .."Pat________________________________________________________________________________
Pat Panzera wrote:> But the car, restore it and drive it.oops.... that should read, "BUY the car, .."Pat________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: '60 Corvair Engine
Original Posted By: Doug Sheets
Jay,I've read on this list that it is recommended that only Corvair engines of1964 or newer be used as an aircraft engine. I'll try to find the commentand repost it.Arden> -----Original Message-----> Panzera> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 8:43 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: '60 Corvair Engine>>> Jay White wrote:> >> > I've recently decided that I'm going to eventually build an Air Camper.> > Because I don't have room yet to start work on the plane, I'm> going to start> > with the engine. After reading as much as I could find about> this subject,> > I've decided to go with a Corvair engine. I talked to a man> recently who has> > a 1960 Corvair, two door with a 110 HP engine (50K miles-rebuilt)and> > automatic transmission. He says it ran two years ago when he> parked it. It> > hasn't been driven since. Would this engine be a good candidate> for the Air> > Camper? Thanks.>>> But the car, restore it and drive it.>> Then get William Wynne's book:> http://www.omnispace.com/Corvair/>> The car may be a '60, but who know what the engine is.> William's book gives engine numbers so you can positively> identify the mill, plus his manual gives you all the information> you need to do the conversion, including building and installing> the prop hub.>> You can buy remanufactured components and assembly a zero time> engine, WAY cheaper than you can buy a questionable core, and> have the components rebuilt. Plus, you will end up with EXACTLY> the engine you need for your application.>> I've recently put together a Corvair website, not much there> now, but there are links to suppliers and there is a link to a> corvair aircraft engine e-mail list that you can join.> http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/index.html>> Pat>________________________________________________________________________________
Jay,I've read on this list that it is recommended that only Corvair engines of1964 or newer be used as an aircraft engine. I'll try to find the commentand repost it.Arden> -----Original Message-----> Panzera> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 8:43 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: '60 Corvair Engine>>> Jay White wrote:> >> > I've recently decided that I'm going to eventually build an Air Camper.> > Because I don't have room yet to start work on the plane, I'm> going to start> > with the engine. After reading as much as I could find about> this subject,> > I've decided to go with a Corvair engine. I talked to a man> recently who has> > a 1960 Corvair, two door with a 110 HP engine (50K miles-rebuilt)and> > automatic transmission. He says it ran two years ago when he> parked it. It> > hasn't been driven since. Would this engine be a good candidate> for the Air> > Camper? Thanks.>>> But the car, restore it and drive it.>> Then get William Wynne's book:> http://www.omnispace.com/Corvair/>> The car may be a '60, but who know what the engine is.> William's book gives engine numbers so you can positively> identify the mill, plus his manual gives you all the information> you need to do the conversion, including building and installing> the prop hub.>> You can buy remanufactured components and assembly a zero time> engine, WAY cheaper than you can buy a questionable core, and> have the components rebuilt. Plus, you will end up with EXACTLY> the engine you need for your application.>> I've recently put together a Corvair website, not much there> now, but there are links to suppliers and there is a link to a> corvair aircraft engine e-mail list that you can join.> http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/index.html>> Pat>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: '60 Corvair Engine
Original Posted By: walter evans
Jay White wrote:> I've recently decided that I'm going to eventually build an Air Camper.> Because I don't have room yet to start work on the plane, I'm going to start> with the engine. After reading as much as I could find about this subject,> I've decided to go with a Corvair engine. I talked to a man recently who has> a 1960 Corvair, two door with a 110 HP engine (50K miles-rebuilt)and> automatic transmission. He says it ran two years ago when he parked it. It> hasn't been driven since. Would this engine be a good candidate for the Air> Camper? Thanks. A better choice would be the later 1965 - 1969 110 Hp engine. It is 164 cubicinch instead of 145The later Corvair has a longer stoke than the early 145 inch engine. Thisallows you to turn a larger prop.You can expect 60 to 80 Hp from a 164 inch 110 Corvair in the direct drivemode. Stay away from the140 Hp engine. They ran 4 carbs, two per head and had bigger valves. The downside to this engine is thatit is noted for having intake valve seat problems and it's horsepower andtorque peak at a higher RPMwhich might be OK if you wanted to run a reduction and deal with the addedweight but does not help at all if your going direct drive. Be very carefulwhen shopping for used Corvair engines . Rebuilt often means someone put a setof rings and bearings in it which is way short of what really should be done ifyou expect a good service life out of it in a high stress aircraft engineapplication . Your going to want new cylinders and pistons, rings plus a cam andlifters at the very least. The heads will need a good going over too .Hardened valve seats and new guides might be a good idea too. Auto gas in the60's had lots of lead in it which even 100 LL is short on these days .Gene________________________________________________________________________________
Jay White wrote:> I've recently decided that I'm going to eventually build an Air Camper.> Because I don't have room yet to start work on the plane, I'm going to start> with the engine. After reading as much as I could find about this subject,> I've decided to go with a Corvair engine. I talked to a man recently who has> a 1960 Corvair, two door with a 110 HP engine (50K miles-rebuilt)and> automatic transmission. He says it ran two years ago when he parked it. It> hasn't been driven since. Would this engine be a good candidate for the Air> Camper? Thanks. A better choice would be the later 1965 - 1969 110 Hp engine. It is 164 cubicinch instead of 145The later Corvair has a longer stoke than the early 145 inch engine. Thisallows you to turn a larger prop.You can expect 60 to 80 Hp from a 164 inch 110 Corvair in the direct drivemode. Stay away from the140 Hp engine. They ran 4 carbs, two per head and had bigger valves. The downside to this engine is thatit is noted for having intake valve seat problems and it's horsepower andtorque peak at a higher RPMwhich might be OK if you wanted to run a reduction and deal with the addedweight but does not help at all if your going direct drive. Be very carefulwhen shopping for used Corvair engines . Rebuilt often means someone put a setof rings and bearings in it which is way short of what really should be done ifyou expect a good service life out of it in a high stress aircraft engineapplication . Your going to want new cylinders and pistons, rings plus a cam andlifters at the very least. The heads will need a good going over too .Hardened valve seats and new guides might be a good idea too. Auto gas in the60's had lots of lead in it which even 100 LL is short on these days .Gene________________________________________________________________________________